Adam Albright said:
Its pretty obvious from all the moronic posts from Mac freaks that
obviously few if any of you do any serious work on your computer or
you wouldn't have time to troll a Windows help newsgroup.
I did a quick check in my field of interest, video editing.
OSX offers Final Cut Pro and a few Mickey Mouse offerings. Adobe
announced recently it no longer will support the Mac platform with its
popular video editor.
Adobe video products were pushed off the Mac platform years ago. They
just couldn't compete against Final Cut Pro. If Apple released a Windows
version of FCP, Adobe would extract themselves from that market as well.
Windows offers many professional level applications including what
most of the big boys in Hollywood use; AVID*
Yes, AVID is a large "expensive" player, but AVID has been struggling
for years as well, Final Cut Pro owns most of the Hollywood market now,
so AVID has become an increasing bit player, relegated to broadcast and
other minor markets.
*Avid Technology, Inc. is the world leader in digital nonlinear media
creation, management and distribution solutions, enabling film, video,
audio, animation, games, and broadcast news professionals.
Another popular offering from Sony, called Vegas, is also only
available on the Windows platform.
Yes, but Vegas is Mickey Mouse compared to Final Cut Pro.
So your claim there are 14,000 apps, seems bogus, unless you count
games. LOL!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software
Apple has fewer, but better software, so you can live a mediocre life,
or enjoy the best, it's your choice.
Now just to rub your nose in the dirt I looked on the Mac page. Their
top of the line "system" seems to be the Quad Core which would set me
back $2500 plus shipping and tax, no monitor! It shows it has a "big"
hard drive of 250GB. LOL! Well, I have 2 TB.
2TB is tiny for video in this day and age... the Mac Pro supports 3TB
internally without breaking a sweat. Apple provides a 250GB boot drive
but they don't try and dictate what you "should have", so they give you
a starter drive and allow you to easily add as much as you want. Plus it
has several firewire ports, allowing petabytes if you want.
Shipping is free... and you are looking at "full retail", not what it
actually costs. Currently they go for $2299, free ship, no tax.
Then there is Final Cut
Pro. I'd need that at minimum to replace just Vegas, that cost another
$1,300
No, no, no... don't be dumb. Final Cut goes for around $480, but that's
too much horse power for you if you are still using Vegas. You would be
hard pressed to max out Final Cut Express which goes for around $240.
and I didn't even replace my 24 inch 1920x1200 HD monitor from
Dell that cost about $800
Use the Dell monitor, nothing is stopping you...
and the Apple version costs more or just to
add a convertor to use my current monitor would set me back another
$100.
You don't need a converter... what dell monitor do you have? If it's VGA
or DVI it will work fine with the MacPro.
Even if I got the cheaper Mac "Pro" that TOY only comes with a
17 inch monitor as a "system" that runs at maximum at a lower
resolution then I already have and comes with a toy drive of just
160GB yet it costs $2800 or nearly three times what my PC system does
Yes, but your PC is not a high end device. It's a kludge. I ask you, is
your PC silent? Nope! Does your PC have has as much expansion? Nope! As
many features as the MacPro? Nope. Does it hold it's value as well 4-7
years from now? Nope!
You are using a Ford, and trying to explain why it's not as expensive as
a Volvo. You are simply not understanding you get more with a Mac, much
more, but since you only know PCs you don't understand the high end of
the PC market.
that has both far more hard drive capacity
Nope, it has 1TB less internally... and FAR FAR less externally.
and a more beefy video
card.
Doesn't really matter for video now does it? If you are a game player
yes, but for Video, no.
In the present configuration I can add a 1 TB hard drive to the
IDE channel, I have six more SATA channels that's another 6 TB, plus I
could add another SATA controller as a external card or another IDE
car and expand way beyond that. Can a Mac? No, apparently it tops out
at 3 TB.
Yes, and you can do that with the MacPro as well.
Can you Mac Freaks do simple math? You're really taking a DOWNGRADE
and paying triple the price!
No. You are just poorly educated about computing, you don't understand
what "professionals" use. You are coming from the angle of an amateur.
Now, I don't fault you for that, but the MacPro is a "professional"
level machine, your PC running "Vegas", is not.
Just to switch I would need to spend upwards of $6,000 to "replace" a
system I build for $830 which includes the MB, 1 GB memory and
graphics card + $800 for the monitor and another $700 for the drives
plus toss out thousands of dollars worth of Windows software. I used a
case, keyboard, power supply and trackball I had. So even adding that
in, I'm still way ahead of the game in out of pocket expenses. So you
idiots screaming get a Mac are basically full of it since it isn't a
practical solution for a lot of people. Why don't you get a life?
Your numbers are way off, to Switch it would cost you around $2,600 AND
you'd have a much faster machine, better compatibility with Video
professionals, have better resell value in 4-7 years, plus you'd enjoy
computing a lot more.
But sorry, it doesn't appear you are of the caliber to own a Mac quite
yet. Maybe someday, but not yet.