A Question For Mike Stevens

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Alias said:
Try "not being selfish" and "consideration for others on the 'Net". If
you don't have SP2, your systems has holes that could be exploited,
including, but not limited to, someone turning your computer into a
spam-bot.

Compatibility problems with what?

Alias

I'm running NOD32,Ewido,Processguard,Sygate firewall and Spysweeper this
does not include other tools (several) that I manually run when I'm bored,
the funny thing is ALL of them show up clean. SP2 is NOT the answer it was
developed for people who don't have or want a clue.

I'll say again since you didn't address my point-
Why install SP2 and have compatibilty issues
 
MAP said:
I'm running NOD32,Ewido,Processguard,Sygate firewall and Spysweeper this
does not include other tools (several) that I manually run when I'm bored,
the funny thing is ALL of them show up clean. SP2 is NOT the answer it was
developed for people who don't have or want a clue.

Keep telling yourself that.
I'll say again since you didn't address my point-
Why install SP2 and have compatibilty issues

What compatibility issues?

Alias
 
I'd like to throw in a comment. SP2 "Elevates" the OS to a higher level.

Many Apps & Drivers will then be designed/updated where SP2 is a
requirement or baseline for use. A PC is always evolving, you can't just
stop updating. So, the reverse of your logic may apply. Things you need
and use may require SP2 and not having it will cause them those things to
work improperly.

I still can't understand this reluctance to install Service Packs.

If the PC is imaged, then the risk factor is nearly zero, as you can roll
it
back if it really does "Break" something. But that end-result isn't as
common
as it was back in the NT4-2000 days.
 
R. McCarty said:
I'd like to throw in a comment. SP2 "Elevates" the OS to a higher
level.

Many Apps & Drivers will then be designed/updated where SP2 is a
requirement or baseline for use. A PC is always evolving, you can't
just stop updating. So, the reverse of your logic may apply. Things
you need and use may require SP2 and not having it will cause them
those things to work improperly.

I still can't understand this reluctance to install Service Packs.

If the PC is imaged, then the risk factor is nearly zero, as you can
roll it
back if it really does "Break" something. But that end-result isn't as
common
as it was back in the NT4-2000 days.


Point taken! I have SP2 on CD, maybe in the near future when I have nothing
going on I'll image my system and install it.

P.S.
I'm not the only one who is reluctant, Thier is a MVP in this group who is
VERY knowlegeable who is still running SP1, for the same resaons I have,
at least he was as of a month ago when I read his post on it.

Later :-)
 
Talahasee said:
T H A N K Y O U !!

Good luck!


Tallahassee

:-) No problem!
Sometimes I get tired of reading posts from people that just recite what
others have said, another example is that "you must install all criticle
updates" over and over again,but if you take the time and actually read the
technical details of the hotfix at least half (give or take) of them state
something like this:
"this vulnerability cannot be exploited remotely"
well that sounds like it is intended for an office type enviorment which
doesn't apply to me,so if the person needs to have thier hands on my
keyboard to exploit this then why install it?

Hotfix Q811493 is one example of this, the first release of this hotfix
slooowed many systems down to a crawl and what does the tech. details say?
Mitigating Factors A successful attack requires the ability to log on
interactively to the target computer, either directly at the console or
through a terminal session.
Properly secured servers are at little risk from this vulnerability.
Standard best practices resources recommend that you only allow trusted
administrators to log on to these kinds of systems interactively. Without
these privileges, an attacker could not exploit the vulnerability.

Later
 
If you have noticed the past day or so, (perhaps it's been
too soon for some to notice), I AM watching much more and
commenting much less. I didn't realize that this was a
closed group, where only 3 of them were permitted to "help."
And only after HEAVY tribute.


For about three weeks now I also have been just reading the posts and
replying less. I've had it with the worthless comments.
I've been chastised by both MVP's and non-MVP's for can you believe "giving
a proper correct answer" (I should bave made the person seeking help find it
themself by telling them about the help files). Once, I copied and pasted a
security issue from a newsletter I recieve, well I should have given a link
for it, chastised once again, my favorite is being chastised for not using
periods or comma's or perhaps a spelling mistake, it doesn't matter that the
info. was correct or not but by God I miss spelled a word or two let's
chastise this guy.
This holier than thou attitude has got to go!

I noticed that "Kelly Theriot" hardly ever posts here anymore. I wonder why?
 
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MAP said:
For about three weeks now I also have been just reading the posts and
replying less. I've had it with the worthless comments.
I've been chastised by both MVP's and non-MVP's for can you believe
"giving a proper correct answer" (I should bave made the person
seeking help find it themself by telling them about the help files).
Once, I copied and pasted a security issue from a newsletter I
recieve, well I should have given a link for it, chastised once
again, my favorite is being chastised for not using periods or
comma's or perhaps a spelling mistake, it doesn't matter that the
info. was correct or not but by God I miss spelled a word or two
let's chastise this guy.
This holier than thou attitude has got to go!

I noticed that "Kelly Theriot" hardly ever posts here anymore. I
wonder why?

Ever hear of hurricane Katrina?
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so back to horsephucky...

Steve N. said:
Perhaps this will clarify what an MVP is for you:





The Andrew E. that Michael Stevens is referring to consistently gives
bad if not outright dangerous advice. He's been politely called on it
ad-nauseum. I don't blame Michael for laying into him a bit. Sometimes
it takes a brick upside the head to get a moron's attention. And Michael
is not the only one who has called this bozo on his BS, many well
respected regulars here have also done so, to no avail.

Michael Stevens owes no one an apology. I applaud him for standing up
for the truth and confronting this Andrew E. clown. Michael Stevens is
one of the very best MVPs I've ever seen posting here and he most
certainly deserves the title.

Steve N.
 

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