A nice free and safe way to check out linux or browse the net

[kenny]

No need to mess up your computer

Using the new free vmware player you can load Ubuntu Linux on top of
windows,
in otherwords the linux will be a window on your desktop
Ubuntu has made a virtual machine pre-installed so all you need is on this
page:

http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/ubuntu.html

Linux Ubuntu is considered one of the best upcoming versions of linux

If you want to browse the internet safely you can download this virtual
machine
that is actually firefox installed on ubuntu linux

http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/browserapp.html

of course you will also need the free vmware player here
http://www.vmware.com/download/player/



More interesting stuff on my site, here: www.computerboom.net
Kenny

 

[Margrave of Brandenburg]

Linux Ubuntu is considered one of the best upcoming versions of linux

The trade papers list Ubuntu as an also-ran, not mature enough for
production use.

 

[Tony B]

The trade papers list Ubuntu as an also-ran, not mature enough for
production use.

And what trade papers are you talking about? I use Ubuntu all the time,
it is my main desktop OS and know lots of other people that use it. I
have ditched XP completely and have no intention of going back to using a
M$ operating system again. I am not a Linux "techie", just a user who
doesn't want to spend so much time scanning for viruses, adware, spyware
etc and having to fork out loads of dosh every time a new windows version
comes out. The server addition has been given IBM accreditation and is
already being used in some commercial operations.

Ubuntu does everything I need, its a lot cheaper than M$ (ie free) and
there are numerous free program's you can easily download and install.

You can do a lot more than just check emails and surf the net with Ubuntu
- in fact it will suit most peoples daily need and comes complete with an
office suite that rivals M$ office - for free!!

I have some official Ubuntu installation disks - two CD's one you can use
as a live cd without installing it on your hard drive if anyone wants one
for just for the cost of the postage (in the UK).

 

[John Holmes]

Tony B blabbered in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

And what trade papers are you talking about? I use Ubuntu all the
time, it is my main desktop OS and know lots of other people that use
it. I have ditched XP completely and have no intention of going back
to using a M$ operating system again. I am not a Linux "techie", just
a user who doesn't want to spend so much time scanning for viruses,
adware, spyware etc and having to fork out loads of dosh every time a
new windows version comes out. The server addition has been given IBM
accreditation and is already being used in some commercial operations.

Ubuntu does everything I need, its a lot cheaper than M$ (ie free) and
there are numerous free program's you can easily download and install.


You can do a lot more than just check emails and surf the net with
Ubuntu - in fact it will suit most peoples daily need and comes
complete with an office suite that rivals M$ office - for free!!

I have some official Ubuntu installation disks - two CD's one you can
use as a live cd without installing it on your hard drive if anyone
wants one for just for the cost of the postage (in the UK).

You ****ing ****. One can order a set of 5 live cd's and 5 installation
cd's totally FREE (ie, no postage costs) on the Ubuntu site.

 

[Steven Burn]

I have some official Ubuntu installation disks - two CD's one you can use
as a live cd without installing it on your hard drive if anyone wants one
for just for the cost of the postage (in the UK).

Or of course, they can just order them and have them delivered (both
completely free) direct from Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/

Order: http://shipit.ubuntu.com

Had mine delivered a while ago ... though I've not actually tried it yet ...

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

 

[Jeff Needle]

Or of course, they can just order them and have them delivered (both
completely free) direct from Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/

Order: http://shipit.ubuntu.com

Had mine delivered a while ago ... though I've not actually tried it yet ...

Thanks!!! This is a good hint.

 

[Azzman]

Or of course, they can just order them and have them delivered (both
completely free) direct from Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/

Order: http://shipit.ubuntu.com

Had mine delivered a while ago ... though I've not actually tried it
yet ...

Took mine about two weeks to arrive in the Netherlands, You should try
it, very user friendly, I'm thinking about making "the switch".

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Took mine about two weeks to arrive in the Netherlands, You should try
it, very user friendly, I'm thinking about making "the switch".

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Did it recognize your hardware? That has always been the Achilles heel
of Linux, IMO.

Bill T.

 

[Syntax Terror]

Bill Turner blabbered in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:




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Did it recognize your hardware? That has always been the Achilles heel
of Linux, IMO.

Bill T.

Might be because you're running crappy hardware. Linux makes you stupid.

 

[Azzman]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:




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Did it recognize your hardware? That has always been the Achilles heel
of Linux, IMO.

Too my surprise it did perfectly find all my hardware.

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Might be because you're running crappy hardware. Linux makes you stupid.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Look up the word "useless". You'll find this gentleman's picture.

Bill T.

 

[Tony B]

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Did it recognize your hardware? That has always been the Achilles heel of
Linux, IMO.

Bill T.

I've installed it on two of my PC's and it detected everything, even a
Nividia graphics card - just worked straight out of the box.

 

[Tony B]

Tony B blabbered in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

You ****ing ****. One can order a set of 5 live cd's and 5 installation
cd's totally FREE (ie, no postage costs) on the Ubuntu site.

Yes but you have to wait for them - I had to wait five weeks before they
were delivered whereas I could send one out now. I only offered - I don't
have to be arsed to do it. If you don't want one then stfu.

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

I've installed it on two of my PC's and it detected everything, even a
Nividia graphics card - just worked straight out of the box.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ok, I'll give it a try. I found a two-CD set on eBay for $1.99
including shipping. Beats waiting weeks for a totally free one from
the factory.

Bill T.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Took mine about two weeks to arrive in the Netherlands, You should try
it, very user friendly, I'm thinking about making "the switch".

I just ordered Kubuntu (I like KDE) from CheapBytes, and it should be here
later this week. I've heard good about it. I'm presently playing with
SuSE -- just installed it in a dual-boot sitch on a noncritical Windows
98SE machine. I've been using a pure Mandrake/Mandriva machine
for...uh...three and a half years, now, as my by-far primary system. I
also have a couple Knoppix live CDs and a Damn Small Linux live CD that
I've played with (only the DSL works on my old laptop). Damn --
everywhere I look, around here, there's penquin feathers.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:




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Did it recognize your hardware? That has always been the Achilles heel
of Linux, IMO.

Bill T.

That seems to be less and less of a problem as time ticks away, Bill.
The week before last, I did a clean install of Mandriva 2006.0 on my
primary system, and outta the box it handles my Fuji FinePix S7000 SLR
camera, my 12-way card reader, my Lexar JumpDrive, my external Zip drive,
my nVidia AGP graphics card, my Pioneer R100 DVD burner, my Canon Lide30
scanner...

Don't know what else I'd want it to do for me, hardwarewise.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

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Ok, I'll give it a try. I found a two-CD set on eBay for $1.99
including shipping. Beats waiting weeks for a totally free one from
the factory.

Lots more programs on a more-CD "power pack"-type set, Bill. I'd
consider one of those. The mainstream distros seem to offer
roughly-seven-CD sets, and those can be had for about $10US.

 

[Dewy Edwards]

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:08:57 -0800, Blinky the Shark

I just ordered Kubuntu (I like KDE) from CheapBytes, and it should be here
later this week. I've heard good about it. I'm presently playing with
SuSE -- just installed it in a dual-boot sitch on a noncritical Windows
98SE machine. I've been using a pure Mandrake/Mandriva machine
for...uh...three and a half years, now, as my by-far primary system. I
also have a couple Knoppix live CDs and a Damn Small Linux live CD that
I've played with (only the DSL works on my old laptop).

I'd be interested in your comments after you play with SuSE ( vs
Mandriva). I've got one machine, and I'm sitting on the fence as to
these two - which first. I, myself would prefer the less dumbed
dowm.

Damn --
everywhere I look, around here, there's penquin feathers.

LOL. Your home has been violated by those darn google posters.
Somehow they found your blog at http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
(I enjoyed it BTW).

Nice to see you again.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 00:08:57 -0800, Blinky the Shark



I'd be interested in your comments after you play with SuSE ( vs
Mandriva). I've got one machine, and I'm sitting on the fence as to
these two - which first. I, myself would prefer the less dumbed dowm.

Having only had SuSE installed for a couple-three days, I should probably
limit my comments to the installation and first impressions. When you
install Mandriva, you're presented with a screen about how you plan on
using your system. It offers you checkboxes for anticipated uses such as
"office workstation", "graphics workstation", "network workstation",
"network server", and so on. What you check influences the software that
gets loaded with the install (and, methinks, what modules are compiled
into the kernel so you don't have to manually load them later). You can
also pick and choose what software it loads, app by app, if you want to,
at that point.

When I installed SuSE, there were no such choices presented. So what kind
of apps (and kernel modules) are going to be installed? You wait and see.
Personally, I think the SuSE install is kind of bare; but if I was
short on HDD space I'd probably consider that a plus (albeit one could
also do a minimum install of Mandriva and perhaps end up with something
equivalent). Both installations went smoothly, with the exception that
SuSE didn't find (or wouldn't talk to if it did find) my bog-standard
serial external modem. USB is working flawlessly with both, out of the
box, and I did have problems with that with older versions of Mandriva.
One thing I considered tests for each of these installations (if I didn't
mention it, the Mandrake 2006.0 installation is only two weeks old) was my
Fuji FinePix S7000 SLR camera. Both picked it up without apparently
sweating a bead; within five or six seconds of plugging it in both distros
pop up a thumbnail viewer for moving/copying the images to my medium of
choice.

My personal bugaboo has always been LAN configuration; I'm still
struggling with it here, across both distros and Windows (on a wheezy old
laptop (http://blinkynet.net/comp/bhard.html)). I haven't even messed
with it on the Win side of the dual-boot SuSE box.

I think, at this point, that the distros are probably a tie, and that
my favoring Mandriva a bit is simply a matter of familiarity. Under the
hood (admin tools, monitoring, config, etc.), I don't see much difference
at this point, either.

This isn't helping you much with your decision, is it?

 

[Dewy Edwards]

Having only had SuSE installed for a couple-three days, I should probably
limit my comments to the installation and first impressions. When you
install Mandriva, you're presented with a screen about how you plan on
using your system. It offers you checkboxes for anticipated uses such as
"office workstation", "graphics workstation", "network workstation",
"network server", and so on.

That I like. But admittedly, overkill will occur on my part the
first time.

What you check influences the software that
gets loaded with the install (and, methinks, what modules are compiled
into the kernel so you don't have to manually load them later). You can
also pick and choose what software it loads, app by app, if you want to,
at that point.

Maybe on my fourth or fifth update.

When I installed SuSE, there were no such choices presented. So what kind
of apps (and kernel modules) are going to be installed? You wait and see.
Personally, I think the SuSE install is kind of bare; but if I was
short on HDD space I'd probably consider that a plus (albeit one could
also do a minimum install of Mandriva and perhaps end up with something
equivalent). Both installations went smoothly, with the exception that
SuSE didn't find (or wouldn't talk to if it did find) my bog-standard
serial external modem. USB is working flawlessly with both, out of the
box, and I did have problems with that with older versions of Mandriva.
One thing I considered tests for each of these installations (if I didn't
mention it, the Mandrake 2006.0 installation is only two weeks old) was my
Fuji FinePix S7000 SLR camera. Both picked it up without apparently
sweating a bead; within five or six seconds of plugging it in both distros
pop up a thumbnail viewer for moving/copying the images to my medium of
choice.

I currently have nothing but mainstream hardware (well except an IDE
card for a third HD - Windows can find it for a few weeks, then
oops, it forgets).

My personal bugaboo has always been LAN configuration; I'm still
struggling with it here, across both distros and Windows (on a wheezy old
laptop (http://blinkynet.net/comp/bhard.html)). I haven't even messed
with it on the Win side of the dual-boot SuSE box.

That, I won't be doing.

I think, at this point, that the distros are probably a tie, and that
my favoring Mandriva a bit is simply a matter of familiarity. Under the
hood (admin tools, monitoring, config, etc.), I don't see much difference
at this point, either.

This isn't helping you much with your decision, is it?

Actually, it is.

I need to try both (er all three).

I downloaded Mandrake 10.1. This post encouraged me to find 2006.0
and download.

My earlier worry had to do with installing one on a dualboot system
and afraid I would have to reinstall Windows twice (98, 2k) to try
the next. Reading your response a few hours ago at work gave me
time to realize that I could actually *pull the plug* on Windows and
test to my hearts content.

My plan:
Switch main IDE cable from disk Win98 to disk 3 and install Mandrake
10.1. Play a week or two.
Wipe and install SuSE and play again.
Same with Mandrake 2006.0.
Then decide.

Thank you Blinky.