A new hijacking

[Howard Brazee]

Most people in the western world do not have computers.

I believe that. Even in my family - the generation ahead of mine has
3 people, one computer, my wife and myself have a computer apiece, my
children and their spouses have 3, and my 4 grandchildren have zero.
That's 13 people of which only 6 have computers at home. I suspect
we're above average.

Most people in
the Western world that have access to computers do so at work, where
professional IT staff shields them from the complexity of security.

I doubt that, but wouldn't be very surprised if you are correct here.
Of course the term "the Western world" seems to be a variable,
depending on what people want it to mean.

Most
people in the Western world that have computers at home only access the
'net through dial-up.

I'd like to see figures here, especially if we only count those who
use enough of the Internet to be vulnerable.

 

[Bob I]

Not to mention the definition of "computer". Most people in the "Western
world" have "access to a computer". Whether they make use of it or not
is immaterial.

 

[Asher_N]

I believe that. Even in my family - the generation ahead of mine has
3 people, one computer, my wife and myself have a computer apiece, my
children and their spouses have 3, and my 4 grandchildren have zero.
That's 13 people of which only 6 have computers at home. I suspect
we're above average.


I doubt that, but wouldn't be very surprised if you are correct here.
Of course the term "the Western world" seems to be a variable,
depending on what people want it to mean.


I'd like to see figures here, especially if we only count those who
use enough of the Internet to be vulnerable.

Canadian broadband penetration is at 77%, US at 57%, Europe is at 20%
now, expected to rise to 41% by 2008.

 

[Z]

Keep enabling ignorance, by apologizing for fools.

.... or keep enabling arrogance, by replying to aloahs, like you.

 

[ben]

Talking about hijacking ... do you think spamming/crossposting to
multiple newsgroups is better? What's so important about your message
that you have to spread out to the world?

 

[ben]

"And by now most people in the western world should have learned. "

... if all were born at the same time and had started using PCs at the
same time, and had made the same experience over time ...

not everybody is a smartass ..

 

[Fitz]

Pride, arrogance and judgmental. It's not often I meet someone with all
those qualities. I think you were a newbie once too...or did you instantly
understand all the intricacies of web surfing when you first turned a
computer on? Good luck in life.

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[floresrikitic]

Most people in the western world do not have computers. Most people in
the Western world that have access to computers do so at work, where
professional IT staff shields them from the complexity of security.

Our little impudent brat known as "kurttrail" would probably be
surprised
to learn that many high-level professionals rarely, if ever, surf
the Web. He's probably some buck-toothed little urchin who plays
with his machine all day and thinks he's actually doing something.

BTW, I've solved my problems, and have learned a lot today.
A BIG thanks to all of you, except of course the aforementioned
ill-mannered dweeb.

 

[floresrikitic]

Talking about hijacking ... do you think spamming/crossposting to
multiple newsgroups is better? What's so important about your message
that you have to spread out to the world?

I posted to five newsgroups about this problem, and all are
appropriate for a post like this, no? I just wanted to get
some good info and I did, and I've learned a lot. If I'd
only gone with one or two groups, the response could've been
a lot less. Doesn't this make sense to you?

 

[Winux P]

This one doesn't seem to be affecting things too much EXCEPT
that I now have a wallpaper that won't go away. It's a blood-
red screen with a black area in the middle with "DANGER: SPYWARE"
flashing in huge red letters. Then it goes on to tell me how
I can pay them extortion money (my words not theirs) "for as
low as $49.95" to get rid of the shit. My homepage had also
been replaced by a warning from them, that I was being watched,
along with listing my DNS etc. etc. (I think I've gotten
rid of that problem, but the wallpaper I haven't been able to.)

All this crap started yesterday after very briefly visiting
an adult site. I wish they all had one neck and my hands
were around it.

Sounds like your hands where elsewhere, Foreskintic. See what happens when
your guards' down, even when your heads' up...

It'll stop when these scum start being sent
to prison for doing this. I've run HijackThis and Spybot,
and have of course tried to change my wallpaper, but of course
they've covered that and I can't override what they've done.
Not yet anyway. Anybody know about this one and what to
do to solve it? Thanks a bunch.

- Winux P

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

Any noob, at this point, in the western world, is a fool. Basic safe
computing isn't an area of expertise, but a matter of common sense.

==========
I resent this. A matter of common sense when a noob has no way to know
what's out there? When I first got online 10 years ago I was as clueless as
the next person - we all learn as we go, as we read, listen and surf. I
tried to find information about lizards for my young step-daughter and the
next thing I knew I had been diverted to a bestiality porn site. I didn't
even know such things existed online - so give us a break!

:-(

FS~

 

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

And by now most people in the western world should have learned. They
really is little excuse other than poverty.

$$ Learned HOW? Us older people learned nothing about computers in school.
You sound like a real pompous ass to me.

Keep enabling ignorance, by apologizing for fools.

$$ Your are a pompous ass!

FS~

 

[Trax]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

|>All this crap started yesterday after very briefly visiting
|>an adult site. I wish they all had one neck and my hands
|>were around it. It'll stop when these scum start being sent
|>to prison for doing this. I've run HijackThis and Spybot,
|>and have of course tried to change my wallpaper, but of course
|>they've covered that and I can't override what they've done.
|>Not yet anyway. Anybody know about this one and what to
|>do to solve it? Thanks a bunch.

There's not a web site I won't go to, seriously, and I have never
pick'd up any malware.
One reason is I run Opera, give it a try, it's free now (Ad-less)
http://opera.com/free/ and I run a hosts file.

 

[kurttrail]

Most people in the western world do not have computers. Most people in
the Western world that have access to computers do so at work, where
professional IT staff shields them from the complexity of security.
Most people in the Western world that have computers at home only
access the 'net through dial-up.

Cite.

There really is no good excuse for people to still be having spyware
problems, only lame excuses.

"I'm a stupid noob," is just a lame excuse.

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[kurttrail]

I believe that. Even in my family - the generation ahead of mine has
3 people, one computer, my wife and myself have a computer apiece, my
children and their spouses have 3, and my 4 grandchildren have zero.
That's 13 people of which only 6 have computers at home. I suspect
we're above average.

That's more than one computer per household.

It is a very rare household that doesn't have at least one computer.
Mostly the very poor, or the very old.

I make an exception for both poor and old. Other than those two, there
is no good excuse for getting spyware.

I doubt that, but wouldn't be very surprised if you are correct here.
Of course the term "the Western world" seems to be a variable,
depending on what people want it to mean.

Western Europe, US and Canada.

I'd like to see figures here, especially if we only count those who
use enough of the Internet to be vulnerable.

It doesn't matter how they connect to the net. It is not a good excuse
for being a fool that gets infected with spyware.

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[kurttrail]

Our little impudent brat known as "kurttrail" would probably be
surprised
to learn that many high-level professionals rarely, if ever, surf
the Web.

LOL! The higher you are, the more you get used to getting other people
to do the dirty work for you.

He's probably some buck-toothed little urchin who plays
with his machine all day and thinks he's actually doing something.

Whatever. At least I'm not stupid enough to get infected with spyware.

BTW, I've solved my problems, and have learned a lot today.

Don't strain yourself patting yourself on the back.

A BIG thanks to all of you, except of course the aforementioned
ill-mannered dweeb.

The "ill-mannered" BS is in your own head.

But I really did love your lame excuse.

"I'm a high-level pro, help me fix my computer that is only broke
because of my own stupidity!"

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[kurttrail]

kurttrail wrote:



There's only one fool in this thread.
Why not try preventing ignorance by helping, rather than ridiculing?

In my experience, people need to get some negative reinforcement to get
them off their lazy asses.

No matter whether its the Western, Eastern, Northern or Southern
world. Or the third, fourth or fifth world.

Over and out.

LOL! Roger Wilco!

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[kurttrail]

... or keep enabling arrogance, by replying to aloahs, like you.

Thanks for replying, and thereby enabling "aloahs," and making yourself
a hypocrite in one post.

That's really killing two birds with one stone.

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[info]

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Any noob, at this point, in the western world, is a fool. Basic safe
computing isn't an area of expertise, but a matter of common sense.

Ye do greately err, sense is anything but common.

And apologists for fools are scum.

and you are a turd.


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[kurttrail]

Pride, arrogance and judgmental. It's not often I meet someone with
all those qualities.

You still haven't met one. You may have read posts that in your
estimation are those qualities, but you haven't met me.

I think you were a newbie once too...or did you
instantly understand all the intricacies of web surfing when you
first turned a computer on?

Yep, I was a noob. But guess what? I didn't go whining for help. I
sought it out on my own.

Good luck in life.

No thanks.

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