A FrontPage Warning!


K

Kevin Spencer

Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites for
years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages, I'd
strongly advise a different tool.

Let's see, now. You are having problems with your web design, and blaming
your tools for it. You don't personally accept ANY blame for your problems,
but from your message, you do have some. For example:
then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so they
wouldn't show up as "%20".

If you knew what you were doing, you would never have named web files with
spaces in them. Spaces are illegal URL characters.
Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:

FrontPage is not Visual Studio. HTML is not programming code. There is no
"building" to be done. Obviously, you don't know much about webs and web
toolkits.

It's easy and takes no character to pick on "Micro$oft." All kinds of people
do it. After all, Micro$oft is a big, evil corporation. But let's look back
30 years. 30 years ago, Micro$oft was a handful of people struggling to make
it in the world of programming. Somehow they managed to make it big. I
suppose that's some sort of crime?

Well, Bill Gates is now the richest man in the world. And you can't build a
web site. But it's his fault, right?

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

Hey...I've even seen you spell 8 AND 9 letter werds !! :)


| Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of correctly
| spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > Bobb
| >
| > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > Black & Decker. I
| > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > about carpentry, and
| > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > anyway. The stupid saw
| > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > even changing the
| > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > >
| > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > as $. Oh, wait;
| > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > you can't be funny,
| > >could you at least be original?
| > >
| > >Bob Lehmann
| > >
| > in message
| > >| > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > development methodology,
| > >I
| > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > people, and used
| > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > building the site and
| > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > sure I wasn't painting
| > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > was finished (2711
| > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > appeared to be working. I
| > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > blanks in them, so they
| > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > experience with various
| > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > recompiled, and
| > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > back and changed the
| > >> remaining pages.
| > >>
| > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > First, several pages
| > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > as red "x"s). When
| > >I
| > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > suspect pages in the
| > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > that the pages were
| > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > to the navigator
| > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > broken page. Why did
| > >this
| > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > too bad - only took a
| > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > >>
| > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > following error:
| > >>
| > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > >object
| > >>
| > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > f' does not
| > >exist
| > >> on the server
| > >>
| > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > supposed to do!
| > >>
| > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > buttons showing up with
| > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > you see the right
| > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > gifs with the right
| > >text
| > >> on them.
| > >>
| > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > creating this site, and
| > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > waits until it's
| > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > Or does Microsoft
| > >do
| > >> this on purpose?
| > >>
| > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > simple websites for
| > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > gotten it right by
| > >now.)
| > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > few pages, I'd
| > >strongly
| > >> advise a different tool.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| > >.
| > >
|
|
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

He doesnt have extensions on that web.


| When you renamed your files (to eliminate the spaces), did you do so within
| Frontpage, or by using Windows Explorer, etc.? If you made the name changes
| outside of Frontpage, that might account for some of the problems you had.
|
| Are Frontpage Extensions installed on your web server? Are they current?
|
| Alex
|
| | > When I set out to document my company's software development methodology,
| > I unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical people, and used
| > Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way, building the site and
| > testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make sure I wasn't painting
| > myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I was finished (2711
| > pages), I tested the site again, and everything appeared to be working. I
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long experience with various
| > flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes, recompiled, and
| > satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went back and changed the
| > remaining pages.
| >
| > When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies. First, several pages
| > were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up as red "x"s). When
| > I went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the suspect pages in the
| > navigator, I received an error message. I could see that the pages were
| > still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back to the navigator
| > structure, move their child pages, and remove the broken page. Why did
| > this occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't too bad - only
| > took a couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| >
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
| >
| > Server error: The folder that would hold URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > object model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gif' does
| > not exist on the server
| >
| > Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was supposed to do!
| >
| > Now, when I view the finished site, I have random buttons showing up with
| > no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them you see the right
| > path. Front Page simply fails to create the button gifs with the right
| > text on them.
| >
| > This is really terrific. I've spent three months creating this site, and
| > this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but waits until it's
| > completed to do so. Could this really be an accident? Or does Microsoft
| > do this on purpose?
| >
| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages, I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
 
?

=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\

Yah know what irks me about people like this? He never came here for HELP...but comes here to complain.

sheesh.

| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages, I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
|
| Let's see, now. You are having problems with your web design, and blaming
| your tools for it. You don't personally accept ANY blame for your problems,
| but from your message, you do have some. For example:
|
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20".
|
| If you knew what you were doing, you would never have named web files with
| spaces in them. Spaces are illegal URL characters.
|
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
|
| FrontPage is not Visual Studio. HTML is not programming code. There is no
| "building" to be done. Obviously, you don't know much about webs and web
| toolkits.
|
| It's easy and takes no character to pick on "Micro$oft." All kinds of people
| do it. After all, Micro$oft is a big, evil corporation. But let's look back
| 30 years. 30 years ago, Micro$oft was a handful of people struggling to make
| it in the world of programming. Somehow they managed to make it big. I
| suppose that's some sort of crime?
|
| Well, Bill Gates is now the richest man in the world. And you can't build a
| web site. But it's his fault, right?
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| .Net Developer
| Neither a follower nor a lender be.
|
|
| | > When I set out to document my company's software development methodology,
| > I unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical people, and used
| > Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way, building the site and
| > testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make sure I wasn't painting
| > myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I was finished (2711
| > pages), I tested the site again, and everything appeared to be working. I
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long experience with various
| > flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes, recompiled, and
| > satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went back and changed the
| > remaining pages.
| >
| > When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies. First, several pages
| > were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up as red "x"s). When
| > I went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the suspect pages in the
| > navigator, I received an error message. I could see that the pages were
| > still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back to the navigator
| > structure, move their child pages, and remove the broken page. Why did
| > this occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't too bad - only
| > took a couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| >
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
| >
| > Server error: The folder that would hold URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > object model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gif' does
| > not exist on the server
| >
| > Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was supposed to do!
| >
| > Now, when I view the finished site, I have random buttons showing up with
| > no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them you see the right
| > path. Front Page simply fails to create the button gifs with the right
| > text on them.
| >
| > This is really terrific. I've spent three months creating this site, and
| > this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but waits until it's
| > completed to do so. Could this really be an accident? Or does Microsoft
| > do this on purpose?
| >
| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages, I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
 
B

Bob Lehmann

I think it's like an opKinion - everyone has one.

Bob Lehmann

in message What's an asKhole anyway?


| Bobb
|
| Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| Black & Decker. I
| >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| about carpentry, and
| >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| anyway. The stupid saw
| >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| even changing the
| >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| >
| >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| as $. Oh, wait;
| >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| you can't be funny,
| >could you at least be original?
| >
| >Bob Lehmann
| >
| in message
| >| >> When I set out to document my company's software
| development methodology,
| >I
| >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| people, and used
| >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| building the site and
| >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| sure I wasn't painting
| >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| was finished (2711
| >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| appeared to be working. I
| >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| blanks in them, so they
| >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| experience with various
| >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| recompiled, and
| >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| back and changed the
| >> remaining pages.
| >>
| >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| First, several pages
| >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| as red "x"s). When
| >I
| >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| suspect pages in the
| >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| that the pages were
| >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| to the navigator
| >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| broken page. Why did
| >this
| >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| too bad - only took a
| >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| >>
| >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| following error:
| >>
| >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| URL 'reference/tasks/define
| >object
| >>
| model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| f' does not
| >exist
| >> on the server
| >>
| >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| supposed to do!
| >>
| >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| buttons showing up with
| >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| you see the right
| >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| gifs with the right
| >text
| >> on them.
| >>
| >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| creating this site, and
| >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| waits until it's
| >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| Or does Microsoft
| >do
| >> this on purpose?
| >>
| >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| simple websites for
| >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| gotten it right by
| >now.)
| >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| few pages, I'd
| >strongly
| >> advise a different tool.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
K

Kevin Spencer

I think it's like an opKinion - everyone has one.
Yeah, and as Uncle Chutney says, they all stink.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.
 
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M

Murray

And, he'll never come back to read the responses....

--
Murray

in message Yah know what irks me about people like this? He never came here for
HELP...but comes here to complain.

sheesh.

|
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

....and at least you sign your name to your posts.

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of correctly
| spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > Bobb
| >
| > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > Black & Decker. I
| > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > about carpentry, and
| > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > anyway. The stupid saw
| > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > even changing the
| > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > >
| > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > as $. Oh, wait;
| > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > you can't be funny,
| > >could you at least be original?
| > >
| > >Bob Lehmann
| > >
| > in message
| > >| > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > development methodology,
| > >I
| > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > people, and used
| > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > building the site and
| > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > sure I wasn't painting
| > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > was finished (2711
| > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > appeared to be working. I
| > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > blanks in them, so they
| > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > experience with various
| > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > recompiled, and
| > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > back and changed the
| > >> remaining pages.
| > >>
| > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > First, several pages
| > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > as red "x"s). When
| > >I
| > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > suspect pages in the
| > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > that the pages were
| > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > to the navigator
| > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > broken page. Why did
| > >this
| > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > too bad - only took a
| > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > >>
| > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > following error:
| > >>
| > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > >object
| > >>
| > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > f' does not
| > >exist
| > >> on the server
| > >>
| > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > supposed to do!
| > >>
| > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > buttons showing up with
| > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > you see the right
| > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > gifs with the right
| > >text
| > >> on them.
| > >>
| > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > creating this site, and
| > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > waits until it's
| > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > Or does Microsoft
| > >do
| > >> this on purpose?
| > >>
| > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > simple websites for
| > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > gotten it right by
| > >now.)
| > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > few pages, I'd
| > >strongly
| > >> advise a different tool.
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >
| > >
| > >.
| > >
|
|
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Rob: I write it off as trolling ;-)
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
in message Yah know what irks me about people like this? He never came here for
HELP...but comes here to complain.

sheesh.

| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites
for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages,
I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
|
| Let's see, now. You are having problems with your web design, and blaming
| your tools for it. You don't personally accept ANY blame for your
problems,
| but from your message, you do have some. For example:
|
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so
they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20".
|
| If you knew what you were doing, you would never have named web files with
| spaces in them. Spaces are illegal URL characters.
|
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
|
| FrontPage is not Visual Studio. HTML is not programming code. There is no
| "building" to be done. Obviously, you don't know much about webs and web
| toolkits.
|
| It's easy and takes no character to pick on "Micro$oft." All kinds of
people
| do it. After all, Micro$oft is a big, evil corporation. But let's look
back
| 30 years. 30 years ago, Micro$oft was a handful of people struggling to
make
| it in the world of programming. Somehow they managed to make it big. I
| suppose that's some sort of crime?
|
| Well, Bill Gates is now the richest man in the world. And you can't build
a
| web site. But it's his fault, right?
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| .Net Developer
| Neither a follower nor a lender be.
|
|
| | > When I set out to document my company's software development
methodology,
| > I unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical people, and
used
| > Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way, building the site
and
| > testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make sure I wasn't
painting
| > myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I was finished
(2711
| > pages), I tested the site again, and everything appeared to be working.
I
| > then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so
they
| > wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long experience with
various
| > flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes, recompiled, and
| > satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went back and changed
the
| > remaining pages.
| >
| > When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies. First, several
pages
| > were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up as red "x"s).
When
| > I went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the suspect pages in
the
| > navigator, I received an error message. I could see that the pages were
| > still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back to the navigator
| > structure, move their child pages, and remove the broken page. Why did
| > this occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't too bad - only
| > took a couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| >
| > Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the following error:
| >
| > Server error: The folder that would hold URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > object model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gif'
does
| > not exist on the server
| >
| > Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was supposed to do!
| >
| > Now, when I view the finished site, I have random buttons showing up
with
| > no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them you see the
right
| > path. Front Page simply fails to create the button gifs with the right
| > text on them.
| >
| > This is really terrific. I've spent three months creating this site,
and
| > this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but waits until it's
| > completed to do so. Could this really be an accident? Or does Microsoft
| > do this on purpose?
| >
| > Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites
for
| > years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have gotten it right by
| > now.) However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages,
I'd
| > strongly advise a different tool.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Kev: In all my experiences with Uncle Chutney, I've never known him to be
wrong.

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| >I think it's like an opKinion - everyone has one.
| Yeah, and as Uncle Chutney says, they all stink.
|
| --
| HTH,
|
| Kevin Spencer
| Microsoft MVP
| .Net Developer
| Neither a follower nor a lender be.
|
| "Bob Lehmann" <none> wrote in message
| | >I think it's like an opKinion - everyone has one.
| >
| > Bob Lehmann
| >
| > "Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote
| > in message | > What's an asKhole anyway?
| >
| >
| > | > | Bobb
| > |
| > | Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| > |
| > | >-----Original Message-----
| > | >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > | Black & Decker. I
| > | >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > | about carpentry, and
| > | >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > | anyway. The stupid saw
| > | >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > | even changing the
| > | >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > | >
| > | >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > | as $. Oh, wait;
| > | >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > | you can't be funny,
| > | >could you at least be original?
| > | >
| > | >Bob Lehmann
| > | >
| > | in message
| > | >| > | >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > | development methodology,
| > | >I
| > | >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > | people, and used
| > | >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > | building the site and
| > | >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > | sure I wasn't painting
| > | >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > | was finished (2711
| > | >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > | appeared to be working. I
| > | >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > | blanks in them, so they
| > | >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > | experience with various
| > | >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > | recompiled, and
| > | >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > | back and changed the
| > | >> remaining pages.
| > | >>
| > | >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > | First, several pages
| > | >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > | as red "x"s). When
| > | >I
| > | >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > | suspect pages in the
| > | >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > | that the pages were
| > | >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > | to the navigator
| > | >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > | broken page. Why did
| > | >this
| > | >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > | too bad - only took a
| > | >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > | >>
| > | >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > | following error:
| > | >>
| > | >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > | URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > | >object
| > | >>
| > | model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > | f' does not
| > | >exist
| > | >> on the server
| > | >>
| > | >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > | supposed to do!
| > | >>
| > | >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > | buttons showing up with
| > | >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > | you see the right
| > | >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > | gifs with the right
| > | >text
| > | >> on them.
| > | >>
| > | >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > | creating this site, and
| > | >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > | waits until it's
| > | >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > | Or does Microsoft
| > | >do
| > | >> this on purpose?
| > | >>
| > | >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > | simple websites for
| > | >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > | gotten it right by
| > | >now.)
| > | >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > | few pages, I'd
| > | >strongly
| > | >> advise a different tool.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >.
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|
 
B

Bob Lehmann

You might think so, but in reality, I'm actually Vince Steel, ladies man.

Bob Lehmann
 
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--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| You might think so, but in reality, I'm actually Vince Steel, ladies man.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > ...and at least you sign your name to your posts.
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > ===
| > | > | Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of
correctly
| > | spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
| > |
| > | Bob Lehmann
| > |
| > | | > | > Bobb
| > | >
| > | > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| > | >
| > | > >-----Original Message-----
| > | > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > | > Black & Decker. I
| > | > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > | > about carpentry, and
| > | > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > | > anyway. The stupid saw
| > | > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > | > even changing the
| > | > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > | > >
| > | > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > | > as $. Oh, wait;
| > | > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > | > you can't be funny,
| > | > >could you at least be original?
| > | > >
| > | > >Bob Lehmann
| > | > >
| > | > in message
| > | > >| > | > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > | > development methodology,
| > | > >I
| > | > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > | > people, and used
| > | > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > | > building the site and
| > | > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > | > sure I wasn't painting
| > | > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > | > was finished (2711
| > | > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > | > appeared to be working. I
| > | > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > | > blanks in them, so they
| > | > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > | > experience with various
| > | > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > | > recompiled, and
| > | > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > | > back and changed the
| > | > >> remaining pages.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > | > First, several pages
| > | > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > | > as red "x"s). When
| > | > >I
| > | > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > | > suspect pages in the
| > | > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > | > that the pages were
| > | > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > | > to the navigator
| > | > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > | > broken page. Why did
| > | > >this
| > | > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > | > too bad - only took a
| > | > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > | > following error:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > | > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > | > >object
| > | > >>
| > | > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > | > f' does not
| > | > >exist
| > | > >> on the server
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > | > supposed to do!
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > | > buttons showing up with
| > | > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > | > you see the right
| > | > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > | > gifs with the right
| > | > >text
| > | > >> on them.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > | > creating this site, and
| > | > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > | > waits until it's
| > | > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > | > Or does Microsoft
| > | > >do
| > | > >> this on purpose?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > | > simple websites for
| > | > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > | > gotten it right by
| > | > >now.)
| > | > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > | > few pages, I'd
| > | > >strongly
| > | > >> advise a different tool.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >.
| > | > >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Tom Pepper Willett said:
Google says:

"A karaoke competition at the Rainworth Miners Welfare Club brings Vince
Steel and Teena White together in an explosion of talent and creativity"

Now, I want to know who the heck Teena White is?

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
===
| You might think so, but in reality, I'm actually Vince Steel, ladies
man.
|
| Bob Lehmann
|
| | > ...and at least you sign your name to your posts.
| >
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > ===
| > | > | Perhaps. But, at least I'm somewhat articulate, and capable of
correctly
| > | spelling 3 and 7 letter words.
| > |
| > | Bob Lehmann
| > |
| > | | > | > Bobb
| > | >
| > | > Once again you prove to all you are an askhole!
| > | >
| > | > >-----Original Message-----
| > | > >I'd like to mention that I had a similar experience with
| > | > Black & Decker. I
| > | > >bought a circular saw. And, even though I know little
| > | > about carpentry, and
| > | > >had no time to read the instructions, I went ahead
| > | > anyway. The stupid saw
| > | > >wouldn't cut straight lines no matter how hard I tried.
| > | > even changing the
| > | > >settings on the saw seemed to have no effect!
| > | > >
| > | > >PS - Your "S" key seems to be broken; It keeps coming out
| > | > as $. Oh, wait;
| > | > >You're trying to be funny or something, aren't you? If
| > | > you can't be funny,
| > | > >could you at least be original?
| > | > >
| > | > >Bob Lehmann
| > | > >
| > | > in message
| > | > >| > | > >> When I set out to document my company's software
| > | > development methodology,
| > | > >I
| > | > >> unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical
| > | > people, and used
| > | > >> Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way,
| > | > building the site and
| > | > >> testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
| > | > sure I wasn't painting
| > | > >> myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I
| > | > was finished (2711
| > | > >> pages), I tested the site again, and everything
| > | > appeared to be working. I
| > | > >> then decided to rename some of the pages that had
| > | > blanks in them, so they
| > | > >> wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long
| > | > experience with various
| > | > >> flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes,
| > | > recompiled, and
| > | > >> satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
| > | > back and changed the
| > | > >> remaining pages.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
| > | > First, several pages
| > | > >> were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up
| > | > as red "x"s). When
| > | > >I
| > | > >> went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the
| > | > suspect pages in the
| > | > >> navigator, I received an error message. I could see
| > | > that the pages were
| > | > >> still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back
| > | > to the navigator
| > | > >> structure, move their child pages, and remove the
| > | > broken page. Why did
| > | > >this
| > | > >> occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't
| > | > too bad - only took a
| > | > >> couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Then, when I tried to build the project, I got the
| > | > following error:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Server error: The folder that would hold
| > | > URL 'reference/tasks/define
| > | > >object
| > | > >>
| > | > model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gi
| > | > f' does not
| > | > >exist
| > | > >> on the server
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
| > | > supposed to do!
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Now, when I view the finished site, I have random
| > | > buttons showing up with
| > | > >> no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them
| > | > you see the right
| > | > >> path. Front Page simply fails to create the button
| > | > gifs with the right
| > | > >text
| > | > >> on them.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> This is really terrific. I've spent three months
| > | > creating this site, and
| > | > >> this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but
| > | > waits until it's
| > | > >> completed to do so. Could this really be an accident?
| > | > Or does Microsoft
| > | > >do
| > | > >> this on purpose?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
| > | > simple websites for
| > | > >> years. (You would think that Micro$oft would have
| > | > gotten it right by
| > | > >now.)
| > | > >> However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a
| > | > few pages, I'd
| > | > >strongly
| > | > >> advise a different tool.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >.
| > | > >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 

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