64 bit AMD pro's and con's ?

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Robert Redelmeier

Keith R. Williams said:
Cricket? Wazzat? Louisville is 75mi left of Lexington on I64, so it's
more properly called the Lousiville Slugger weight and swing. ;-)

Ah, but the model M is much flatter than it is round.
I doubt it'd meet Major League rules, although
it's certainly not "corked".
I drooled over a Smith stainless M1911 a couple of weeks ago at the

I didn't know S&W did M1911s. Springfield and Colt, sure.
though it does like to check memory on power-up at times.

Is that what takes MS-Win2k so long? Is there some sort
of Registry Entry to treak? The OS shouldn't do more than
"scan" memory tests. Serious testing (memtest86) should be
done as part of machine build and acceptance.

-- Robert
 
G

George Macdonald

: Keith R. Williams wrote:
::
:: You forgot the grand-daddy of the list: B52H. ...older than anyone
:: flying them and likely older than some of their fathers. They'll be
:: around another 50 years, or so says the AF.
::
:
: I once talked to an American airman who had accompanied a
: C5 to an airshow in Moose Jaw about 6 or 7 years ago. He
: told me that he had previously been part a B52 crew - and
: that his father had also crewed on that very same airplane.
: The obvious question occurred to me too, but the answer was no,
: that B52 was not older than his father. Not by almost 2 years.
:
: And for any American servicemen reading this newsgroup:
: If you come to Moose Jaw for something like an airshow, wear
: your uniform when you go out for the evening. I'm not the
: only one who buys drinks to show my appreciation for Americans
: doing what the Canadian gov't doesn't have the balls to do.

And what's that? Invade other countries without International consent?

Oh Christ not that again. Consent is not required from rogue nations who
get caught with their umm, asses stuck in the err, oil barrel.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
 
T

The little lost angel

Exactly. I think this laptop has only blue-screened (one was a virus
attack, I think) a handful of times in the 3 1/2 years I've had it,
though it does like to check memory on power-up at times.

Check memory? Win2K or the laptop? My Win2K just have a terrible
fondness to check the drive whether it was shutdown properly or not.


--
L.Angel: I'm looking for web design work.
If you need basic to med complexity webpages at affordable rates, email me :)
Standard HTML, SHTML, MySQL + PHP or ASP, Javascript.
If you really want, FrontPage & DreamWeaver too.
But keep in mind you pay extra bandwidth for their bloated code
 
K

Keith R. Williams

Ah, but the model M is much flatter than it is round.
I doubt it'd meet Major League rules, although
it's certainly not "corked".

Well it's lighter than a 3270 keyboard. ;-)
I didn't know S&W did M1911s. Springfield and Colt, sure.

They do now. Very nice M1911s, at half the price of some others.
Is that what takes MS-Win2k so long? Is there some sort
of Registry Entry to treak? The OS shouldn't do more than
"scan" memory tests. Serious testing (memtest86) should be
done as part of machine build and acceptance.

<misspeak alert> Replace "memory" with "disk/file-system" (scandisk).
(The Model-M on my ThinkPad must be defective;).
 
K

Keith R. Williams

a?n?g?e? said:
Check memory? Win2K or the laptop? My Win2K just have a terrible
fondness to check the drive whether it was shutdown properly or not.

Yeah, that's it! Sometimes it will, sometimes not. It can take a half
hour to check the drive (very annoying), so I don't shut it down often.
 
G

GSV Three Minds in a Can

from the said:
Yeah, that's it! Sometimes it will, sometimes not. It can take a half
hour to check the drive (very annoying), so I don't shut it down often.

That's probably the best feature of swapping to NTFS from FAT32 .. it
quits doing that sh*t.
 
R

Robert Redelmeier

Keith R. Williams said:
Well it's lighter than a 3270 keyboard. ;-)

Which in turn is lighter than an 029 keypunch!
They do now. Very nice M1911s, at half the price of some others.

I'll have to go see.
<misspeak alert> Replace "memory" with "disk/file-system"
(scandisk). (The Model-M on my ThinkPad must be defective;).

<gasp> you _use_ a laptop kbd??? I plug a Model "M" in the back!

Sounds like you aren't getting a clean shutdown. That will
cause scandisk to run at startup.

-- Robert
 
A

Alexander Grigoriev

Then it just means the system doesn't actually shut down properly. If you
disable write-caching on the drive, does it still happen?
 
S

Steve H.

steve h. said:
Hi,
TIA for your informative replies. My friend has advised me not to
purchase an AMD 64-bit processor at this time, citing concerns with
severe software incompatibility except for MS Server 2003 and Linux 64
bit OS'es. What are your experiences ?
Steve

Thanks to all of you for your time. My computer repair business friend
is right at least 50% of the time, but sometimes he tells me things
that I have trouble accepting. I'm not in IT, so I have no clue. I'm
just a newbie who's learning.
 
K

Keith R. Williams

Which in turn is lighter than an 029 keypunch!

I'd like to see you swing an 029.
I'll have to go see.
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293581&sw_activeTab=1


<gasp> you _use_ a laptop kbd??? I plug a Model "M" in the back!

No, I plug the Model-M into the docking station and the ThinkPad into
that. ;-)
Sounds like you aren't getting a clean shutdown. That will
cause scandisk to run at startup.

That's what I first thought, but I think GSV nailed it. I didn't load
Win2K onto the ThinkPad and it is indeed formatted FAT32. I did load
Win on my home K6 system and of course selected NTFS. No problem at
home. Apparently FAT32 does suck from the bilge.
 
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Neil Maxwell


I shot one at a S&W Demo Day at a local range a while back - S&W rep
came in with a few dozen models from across their product line, and
you could shoot as many as you wanted, only having to buy their ammo.

I found the checkering on the backstrap was a bit too aggressive and
sharp for me (you can see it on the blowup from the link above), and
I'd file it down if it were mine. Aside from that, it shot very much
like most mid-range 1911s I've tried. I liked their S&W 500 and the
647 in .17 HMR better.

They've had a safety recall on them as well; something about the
firing pin becoming disabled. Learning curve stuff, no doubt.

Wrong newsgroup for this, I suppose!
 
G

GSV Three Minds in a Can

Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the
wonderful person Keith R. Williams said:
That's what I first thought, but I think GSV nailed it. I didn't load
Win2K onto the ThinkPad and it is indeed formatted FAT32. I did load
Win on my home K6 system and of course selected NTFS. No problem at
home. Apparently FAT32 does suck from the bilge.

No, it works fine as long as nothing goes wrong. When something does go
wrong (power off before the disk has flushed its cache to the rotating
media, for instance) FAT32 needs a lot of cleaning up. Under the same
circumstances (which should, of course, never happen. 8>.) NTFS just
picks the pieces up from its log files and motors on.
 
K

Keith R. Williams

Bitstring <[email protected]>, from the


No, it works fine as long as nothing goes wrong. When something does go
wrong (power off before the disk has flushed its cache to the rotating
media, for instance) FAT32 needs a lot of cleaning up. Under the same
circumstances (which should, of course, never happen. 8>.) NTFS just
picks the pieces up from its log files and motors on.
Well... I never power the ThinkPad down (I have had a half-dozen blue-
screens; no choice). I always let it shut itself down, so if that
doesn't allow a complete flush, *something* is sucking bilge water. ;-)
 
Y

Yousuf Khan

Steve H. said:
Thanks to all of you for your time. My computer repair business friend
is right at least 50% of the time, but sometimes he tells me things
that I have trouble accepting. I'm not in IT, so I have no clue. I'm
just a newbie who's learning.

Sometimes people just have superstitions, even people who should know
better.

Yousuf Khan
 
K

Keith

I shot one at a S&W Demo Day at a local range a while back - S&W rep
came in with a few dozen models from across their product line, and
you could shoot as many as you wanted, only having to buy their ammo.

Nice. I've never had such an opportunity. I mostly try to get others to
share theirs at the range. ...though I haven't been out this year.
I found the checkering on the backstrap was a bit too aggressive and
sharp for me (you can see it on the blowup from the link above), and I'd
file it down if it were mine. Aside from that, it shot very much like
most mid-range 1911s I've tried.

I'd like to try one, though that's not in the cards. I liked the
fit-n-feel more than the others I have tried.
I liked their S&W 500 and the 647 in .17 HMR better.

The 500? naw, that's far above what I want. My 6" 686 is all the muscle
I want. It's nice to be able to plink with .38 too.
They've had a safety recall on them as well; something about the firing
pin becoming disabled. Learning curve stuff, no doubt.

Most likely. Growing pains will happen. This doesn't sound like a safety
issue though.
Wrong newsgroup for this, I suppose!

Nah. Let the anti-gunners bitch at the aside. ;-)

....less than two months (eight legislative days, or so I've heard)
until the AWB runs out. :)
 
K

Keith

I once talked to an American airman who had accompanied a
C5 to an airshow in Moose Jaw about 6 or 7 years ago. He
told me that he had previously been part a B52 crew - and
that his father had also crewed on that very same airplane.
The obvious question occurred to me too, but the answer was no,
that B52 was not older than his father. Not by almost 2 years.

Two years? As I said, I'm sure there are fathers of BUFF crews that
weren't born when their sons' ship rolled off the assembly line. It is a
truely amazing beast.
And for any American servicemen reading this newsgroup: If you come to
Moose Jaw for something like an airshow, wear your uniform when you go
out for the evening. I'm not the only one who buys drinks to show my
appreciation for Americans doing what the Canadian gov't doesn't have
the balls to do.

Thank you! I've found the difference between the Eastern and Western
Canadians amazing. Perhaps I'll get a chance to do the West.
 
K

Keith

Oh Christ not that again. Consent is not required from rogue nations who
get caught with their umm, asses stuck in the err, oil barrel.

I find it interesting that some believe "consent" is somehow required to
go to war. ...not to mention the consent of a body of composed
primarily despots and thugs. ...not to mention that Iraq was already under
a (suspended) state of war from the west (yes, by the very same body of
despots and thugs).

Consent was asked for and given, by all that had a vote. Even Kerry voted
in the affirmitive.
 
N

Neil Maxwell

Nice. I've never had such an opportunity. I mostly try to get others to
share theirs at the range. ...though I haven't been out this year.

It was quite an experience. The factory rep was very knowledgable,
and had an impressive array of stuff to try. You could buy ammo by
the cylinder/mag if you didn't want a whole box, like with the .500.
I've been bugging them to do it again!
The 500? naw, that's far above what I want. My 6" 686 is all the muscle
I want. It's nice to be able to plink with .38 too.

Yah, it was fun to shoot, and surprisingly mild-mannered with the
target loads they had, but I sure wouldn't buy one unless I hit the
Lotto. Too expensive to feed, and too many practical guns ahead of it
on the list.

It's hard to beat the 686 for quality and value; it's the best
high-production .357 you can get, IMO. I've got one on my want list,
but they're a bit pricy in my neighborhood. My dad has an old 1st
year 586 that's pretty sweet, but I'm making do with a snubby Security
Six and a 6" Blackhawk. Not the same quality as the S&W, but fine
pieces still.
Most likely. Growing pains will happen. This doesn't sound like a safety
issue though.

They'd fail to fire, apparently, but there were no reports of this in
the field. Looks like they caught it in factory testing, which is a
Good Thing.
Nah. Let the anti-gunners bitch at the aside. ;-)

...less than two months (eight legislative days, or so I've heard)
until the AWB runs out. :)

Yep, it's starting to look like it'll happen. As a Californian, it
won't affect me much (except a lot of used 10 round mags may hit the
market all at once!), but it'll be a good thing for the country. That
and shall-issue CCW seem to be moving the tide in the right direction!
 
K

Keith R. Williams

It was quite an experience. The factory rep was very knowledgable,
and had an impressive array of stuff to try. You could buy ammo by
the cylinder/mag if you didn't want a whole box, like with the .500.
I've been bugging them to do it again!

Bug them to do it in my neck-o-the-(back)-woods. ;-)
Yah, it was fun to shoot, and surprisingly mild-mannered with the
target loads they had, but I sure wouldn't buy one unless I hit the
Lotto. Too expensive to feed, and too many practical guns ahead of it
on the list.

Which is why I'm leaning to the 9mm instead of a .45ACP. $8/box rather
than $16ish, with the .40 somewhere in between.
It's hard to beat the 686 for quality and value; it's the best
high-production .357 you can get, IMO. I've got one on my want list,
but they're a bit pricy in my neighborhood.

Pricey? Well I got mine from Santa :), but it was about the same price
($425) as its little brother (617) I bought later for plinking. The
only difference between the 617 is the calibre (obviously), front
sight, and the .22 weighs an ounce more. Other than that they're
identical.
My dad has an old 1st
year 586 that's pretty sweet, but I'm making do with a snubby Security
Six and a 6" Blackhawk. Not the same quality as the S&W, but fine
pieces still.

Really? I have friends who swear by Blackhawks (I don't believe I've
handled one). To each, I guess.
<snip>

Yep, it's starting to look like it'll happen. As a Californian, it
won't affect me much (except a lot of used 10 round mags may hit the
market all at once!), but it'll be a good thing for the country. That
and shall-issue CCW seem to be moving the tide in the right direction!

As a Vermonter (Vermin?), it will change a *lot*. <rhetorical> CCW?
Why?! </rhetorical> Alaska finally joined us on that front. Though
Alaska will issue a CCW for use in reciprocal states, which I would
like as an option.
 
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chrisv

I used to have one of those. Same barrel length and everything. Nice
gun. Sold it. Should have kept it. For the reasons you state, if
someone is only going to own one handgun, a .357 should be it (unless
one needs something smaller for carrying). Plus, the
not-much-to-go-wrong simplicity of revolvers is nice.
Which is why I'm leaning to the 9mm instead of a .45ACP. $8/box rather
than $16ish, with the .40 somewhere in between.

One thing I found out the hard way, is that if you're going to get one
of the newfangled plastic guns, that powerful loads are a real
handfull, with so little weight to help with recoil. Shooting a .357
Mag out of a big gun like the 686 is a lot more comfortable than
shooting a .40 out of a plastic semi-auto. I've not tried a .45, but
I think a "wimpy" 9mm is best for the plastic guns...
 

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