3DMARK reports my ATI in 4X mode........How do I get into 8X mode (and other questions)?

D

Dunny Rummy

Core:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ 1.54
ASUSTeK A7N8X deluxe
768 DDR
Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9600XT (RV350)
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Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP
CAS Latency 2.5T
RAS To CAS Delay 3T
RAS Precharge 3T
RAS Active Time 6T
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 512 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Using Omega 2.4.96c. tried to set to 8X AGP under to smartgurad tab in
the CP but it defaults back to 4X.
What is overdrive? Will I benefit from it?
What is the safest overclocking settings for this AGP card?
Could use some one share settings that they have tested as safe but
optimal?
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Also AIDA32 reports this:
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Problems & Suggestions:
Problem: AGP is disabled. This may cause performance penalty.
Problem: AGP aperture size is more than half of the system memory
size. This may cause performance penalty.
Problem: Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported. This
may cause performance penalty.
------------------------------------------------------------
"AGP Properties:
AGP Version 3.00
AGP Status Disabled
AGP Aperture Size 512 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x
Current AGP Speed 4x
Fast-Write Supported, Disabled
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled"
---------------------------------------------------------------
AGP DISABLED????!!! Whats going on???!! Its a AGP card for froggie
sake!



TIA!!!!!!
 
T

TMack

Dunny Rummy said:
Core:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1800+ 1.54
ASUSTeK A7N8X deluxe
768 DDR
Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9600XT (RV350)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP
CAS Latency 2.5T
RAS To CAS Delay 3T
RAS Precharge 3T
RAS Active Time 6T
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 512 MB (DDR SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 256 MB (DDR SDRAM)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Using Omega 2.4.96c. tried to set to 8X AGP under to smartgurad tab in
the CP but it defaults back to 4X.
What is overdrive? Will I benefit from it?
What is the safest overclocking settings for this AGP card?
Could use some one share settings that they have tested as safe but
optimal?
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Also AIDA32 reports this:
--------------------------------------------------
Problems & Suggestions:
Problem: AGP is disabled. This may cause performance penalty.
Problem: AGP aperture size is more than half of the system memory
size. This may cause performance penalty.
Problem: Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported. This
may cause performance penalty.
------------------------------------------------------------
"AGP Properties:
AGP Version 3.00
AGP Status Disabled
AGP Aperture Size 512 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x
Current AGP Speed 4x
Fast-Write Supported, Disabled
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled"
Click to expand...

Have you installed the correct Nvidia AGP miniport driver? If not then AGP
texturing will not be available. This may also explain your difficulties in
getting 8x to work. You may also need to check that your motherboard bios
settings are correct. There is absolutely no point in setting AGP aperture
to 512MB - evidence suggests that for many cards 64MB is the fastest setting
and with cards that have 64MB or more onboard memory there is no benefit
(and usually a slight performance hit) if you exceed 128MB for AGP aperture
..

Tony
 
D

Darkfalz

Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9600XT (RV350)
Could be your nVidia chipset is intentionally punishing you for buying an
ATI card ;-)
 
D

dino

had the same issue with my G4Ti4200...reinstall the Unified drivers....the
AGP steering was incorrect. That is what fixed mine...
 
D

dino

also..what size is the card??...if it is 128mg there is no benefit to go
beyond 256 AGP aperature size...
 
D

Dunny Rummy

I corrected the aperture size to 64MB in the BIOS
but the other issues still remain. I got this ASUS board exclusively
for 8X feature. Then I got a 8X AGP card. So why is it in 4X mode. I'm
confused and frustrated!
 
A

Andrew

I corrected the aperture size to 64MB in the BIOS
but the other issues still remain. I got this ASUS board exclusively
for 8X feature. Then I got a 8X AGP card. So why is it in 4X mode. I'm
confused and frustrated!
Click to expand...
If you are expecting 8X to be a major speed boost you are in for a big
disappointment.
 
J

James

I just got a 9600XT and had to play with the AGP drivers. The newest version
would'nt let the 8x inable. Went back to ver 1.13. This is on a P4S8X board.
Might be the same stuff here

jb...
 
D

Dunny Rummy

Hmmmmmm..............I just installed:

Audio driver 3.14 (WHQL'd)
Audio utilities 3.07
Network driver 2.81 (WHQL'd)
GART driver 2.78 (WHQL'd)
SMBus driver 2.75 (WHQL'd)
Memory controller driver 2.75 (WHQL'd)
IDE driver 2.70 In The Box (WHQL'd)
IDE driver 3.07 Full Driver
Installer 3.11

Then I tried to use the smartgart in the Omega CP to change it to 8X.
I re booted then BEHOLD! AIDA32 reports nVIDIA nForce2 SPP chipset in
8X!!!
Still working on the Side Band Addressing issue, but is it really
needed?
 
S

Skid

Dunny Rummy said:
I corrected the aperture size to 64MB in the BIOS
but the other issues still remain. I got this ASUS board exclusively
for 8X feature. Then I got a 8X AGP card. So why is it in 4X mode. I'm
confused and frustrated!
Click to expand...

There were a couple of other points in the suggestion:

Make sure 8X is enabled in bio and install the latest Nvidia choipset AGP
drivers.

Confim the settings with another program. Go to start/run and type DXDIAG.
That will check your Direct X configuration and test everything.

Also use start/run SMARTGART, a more complete round of tests and setting
from ATI.

As others have said, you won't be able to detect any performance difference
between 4X and 8X. Nevertheless, it should work.
 
T

TMack

Dunny Rummy said:
Hmmmmmm..............I just installed:

Audio driver 3.14 (WHQL'd)
Audio utilities 3.07
Network driver 2.81 (WHQL'd)
GART driver 2.78 (WHQL'd)
SMBus driver 2.75 (WHQL'd)
Memory controller driver 2.75 (WHQL'd)
IDE driver 2.70 In The Box (WHQL'd)
IDE driver 3.07 Full Driver
Installer 3.11

Then I tried to use the smartgart in the Omega CP to change it to 8X.
I re booted then BEHOLD! AIDA32 reports nVIDIA nForce2 SPP chipset in
8X!!!
Still working on the Side Band Addressing issue, but is it really
needed?
Click to expand...

Smartgart>turn fastwrites off>reboot>sideband now enabled>use
powerstrip to re-enable fastwrites

Tony
 
D

Dunny Rummy

"Smartgart>turn fastwrites off>reboot>sideband now enabled".....didnt
work! sideband still disabled.

AIDA32 reports:
--------------------------
AGP Properties
AGP Version 3.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x
Current AGP Speed 8x
Fast-Write Supported, Enabled
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled
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powersrip reports:
--------------------------------------
CPU speed - 1537 MHz
Type - NVidia nVidia-nForce-A7N8XC-00
BIOS - Phoenix-Award Bios, 05/14/2003
AGP aperture - 64 MB
AGP transfer mechanism - Disabled
AGP non-local memory - (n/a)
AGP revision - 3.00
AGP transfer rates supported - 4x, 8x
Current AGP transfer rate - 8x
Sideband addressing - hardware support, but currently disabled
Fast write protocol - Enabled
AGP texturing - hardware support, but currently disabled
 
E

Ed

"Smartgart>turn fastwrites off>reboot>sideband now enabled".....didnt
work! sideband still disabled.
Click to expand...

Using WPCREDIT on my A7N8X v2.0 under Bridge Host/Offset 49/Bit 1, it
shows AGP Side Band is disabled also. Using WCPUID it says it's
"supported" but disabled also, I haven't tried to enable it tho, does
Side Banding really do anything for performance?

Ed
 
T

TMack

Dunny Rummy said:
"Smartgart>turn fastwrites off>reboot>sideband now enabled".....didnt
work! sideband still disabled.
Click to expand...

It looks like your motherboard's bios has sideband turned off by default. It
works fine on my Epox 8RDA+ which is an Nforce2 board. That would explain
why you are getting the "supported-disabled" report - the chipset supports
AGP sidebanding but the motherboard's bios has set it to 'off'. Is there a
setting for it in your motherboard's bios? Have you tried enabling sideband
using Powerstrip (probably won't work but worth a try)?

Tony

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=9600+sideband+bios+-modem&start=10&hl=en&l
r=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=7gu6svcj4lolrgg2ampar4l2n4d9om8tam%404ax.com&rnum=
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