3000+ on A7V333-X = Lockups, help

[Wildcat]

I have an A7V333-X, on the Asus site it states that it support the
XP 3000+. I had a XP 1800+ with 2x 512Mb PC2700 RAM (one Samsung, one
AZERAM). I bought a XP 3000+, but the system reboot or I get the BSOD
after about 2-3 minutes, if I start a game like Unreal Tournament, it
freeze after about 30 secondes.
I removed one stick of RAM, with the Samsung only, I can't even
start any games, with the AZERAM only, the system is a bit more stable,
but it freeze anyway after about 2-3 minutes of Unreal Tournament.
I also get a lot of Windows instability, corrupted files, etc. I'm
using Win XP Home.
Both RAM sticks are labeled PC2700 333Mhz, I ordered PC3200 RAM because
I thought those RAM didn't handled the 333 BUS correctly but I'll get
them only the 9th of Jan. Anyone else have other clues??
Thanks.
P.S.: I put the 1800+ back in and everything is normal

Dean

 

[NewUser001]

the 333 is rated to handle up to 333 mhz cpus....i think ur 3000 is 400
mhz....it is prob ur motherboard reading the cpu wrong...i suggest getting a
new mobo to go along wit that new cpu- possible a7n8x or abit nf7

 

[Hippy Paul]

I have an A7V333-X, on the Asus site it states that it support the
XP 3000+. I had a XP 1800+ with 2x 512Mb PC2700 RAM (one Samsung, one
AZERAM). I bought a XP 3000+, but the system reboot or I get the BSOD
after about 2-3 minutes, if I start a game like Unreal Tournament, it
freeze after about 30 secondes.
I removed one stick of RAM, with the Samsung only, I can't even
start any games, with the AZERAM only, the system is a bit more stable,
but it freeze anyway after about 2-3 minutes of Unreal Tournament.
I also get a lot of Windows instability, corrupted files, etc. I'm
using Win XP Home.
Both RAM sticks are labeled PC2700 333Mhz, I ordered PC3200 RAM because
I thought those RAM didn't handled the 333 BUS correctly but I'll get
them only the 9th of Jan. Anyone else have other clues??
Thanks.
P.S.: I put the 1800+ back in and everything is normal

Dean

total guess but sounds like it may be
1) memory related - have you tested the ram with a program like memtest86
www.memtest86.com to see if it can handle running at 166fsb - as I assume
the 1800+ is being run on a 133fsb. Have you tried changing the timings for
the memory - ie setting them manually if on auto or vice versa. Have you
reset the bios to its defaults to remove any settings that may be causing
instability
2) temperature related - what heatsink and fan are you using - is it rated
for xp3000+?
3) power related - can your psu take the additional load of the xp3000+ in
addition to all hdds, optical devices. 300w may not be enough

 

[Ed]

I have an A7V333-X, on the Asus site it states that it support the
XP 3000+. I had a XP 1800+ with 2x 512Mb PC2700 RAM (one Samsung, one
AZERAM). I bought a XP 3000+, but the system reboot or I get the BSOD
after about 2-3 minutes, if I start a game like Unreal Tournament, it
freeze after about 30 secondes.
I removed one stick of RAM, with the Samsung only, I can't even
start any games, with the AZERAM only, the system is a bit more stable,
but it freeze anyway after about 2-3 minutes of Unreal Tournament.
I also get a lot of Windows instability, corrupted files, etc. I'm
using Win XP Home.
Both RAM sticks are labeled PC2700 333Mhz, I ordered PC3200 RAM because
I thought those RAM didn't handled the 333 BUS correctly but I'll get
them only the 9th of Jan. Anyone else have other clues??
Thanks.
P.S.: I put the 1800+ back in and everything is normal

Dean

Could it be your PSU isn't powerful enough? Under load a Barton 3000+
may use 10A more, so if it's only crashing during a load that could be
the cause.

T-Bred(a)1800+ 30A to 35A.
Barton 3000+ 35A to 45A.

Ed

 

[Wildcat]

Hippy Paul a écrit :

total guess but sounds like it may be
1) memory related - have you tested the ram with a program like memtest86
www.memtest86.com to see if it can handle running at 166fsb - as I assume
the 1800+ is being run on a 133fsb. Have you tried changing the timings for
the memory - ie setting them manually if on auto or vice versa. Have you
reset the bios to its defaults to remove any settings that may be causing
instability
2) temperature related - what heatsink and fan are you using - is it rated
for xp3000+?
3) power related - can your psu take the additional load of the xp3000+ in
addition to all hdds, optical devices. 300w may not be enough

1) No, haven't tried memtest yet, 1800+ is running on 133 FSB alright.
tried 1003 and 1004 BIOS, 3000+ cpu is supported since 1003. Tried slowing down
RAM, put it at slowest setting (CAS3, etc)
2) Don't think so...I installed an all copper Volcano10+ rated up to 3400+ cpu's

3) don't think so...I have an Enermax 465 , 430 W PS

 

[Wildcat]

Ed a écrit :

Could it be your PSU isn't powerful enough? Under load a Barton 3000+
may use 10A more, so if it's only crashing during a load that could be
the cause.

T-Bred(a)1800+ 30A to 35A.
Barton 3000+ 35A to 45A.

Ed

I have an Enermax mod. 465, rated at 430W... If that's not enough I
dunno what would do :-/

 

[Wildcat]

I't's a retail CPU and on the package it is written " with 333 Mhz Front
side Bus", on the southbridge chip of the A7V333-X there's a sticker with
"333Mhz FSB Support". Getting another board isn't what I was looking for... :-(

 

[Ed]

Ed a écrit :


I have an Enermax mod. 465, rated at 430W... If that's not enough I
dunno what would do :-/

Should be fine, I use an Antec 400w and run my Barton at 2.3GHz+ without
any problems.

Found this on anandtech.com, The important thing to realize is the
combined wattage on the +3.3V and +5.0V rails. Even though PCs are ever
increasingly dependant on the +12V rail, AMD users need to keep a close
eye on the +3.3V power line.

Ed

 

[Wildcat]

Ed a écrit :

Should be fine, I use an Antec 400w and run my Barton at 2.3GHz+ without
any problems.

Found this on anandtech.com, The important thing to realize is the
combined wattage on the +3.3V and +5.0V rails. Even though PCs are ever
increasingly dependant on the +12V rail, AMD users need to keep a close
eye on the +3.3V power line.

Ed

On the PS : +3.3Vdc= 35A
+5.0Vdc= 35A
+12Vdc= 33A
3.3 and 5 V output= 200W
Total output = 460W

Wcat

 

[Ed]

On the PS : +3.3Vdc= 35A
+5.0Vdc= 35A
+12Vdc= 33A
3.3 and 5 V output= 200W
Total output = 460W

Wcat

Looks like you have enough power, unless the voltages have a huge swing,
are too low/too high, then I'd say the PSU is just fine and must be
something else.

Ed
--
PSU Antec 400W (max rating)
+5V - 38A
+12V - 18A
+3.3V - 28A

5+3=240W
5+3+12=380W

 

[Wildcat]

Well, thanks a lot for your help Ed

Looks like you have enough power, unless the voltages have a huge swing,
are too low/too high, then I'd say the PSU is just fine and must be
something else.

Ed
--
PSU Antec 400W (max rating)
+5V - 38A
+12V - 18A
+3.3V - 28A

5+3=240W
5+3+12=380W

 

[NewUser001]

sorry on my previous post...i assumed that it was 400 mhz fsb but it seems u
have the 333 mhz fsb version....so buying a new mobo is not too
important...it could be memory related....

 

[SANDRA]

Is your motherboard revision 1.01 or 2.00 as only rev 2 will support
XP 3000+.

If your motherboard is revision 1.01 and you have got it working,
please let me know how you done it, as I've just bought an XP 3000+
and have a revision 1.01 motherboard

Sandra

 

[Cocahontas]

all i know is my 333-x is VERY finicky with the RAM....all my A7V models
are! With my 333-x , the first stick i put it when i put the system
together didn't work well in the first socket, having the same trouble with
my A7V model, i tried another socket for kicks and low and behold it worked
like a charm from then on. later , i decided to add another stick and had
continuos lock-ups similar to what you mentioned. I swapped the sticks
around...eventually putting the first stick back in the socket that gave me
trouble before and the new one in another(leaving the middle bank
empty)...It is running better than ever now....very strange. My 133 model
wouldn't even boot with the first RAM i put in that one(cheapo from
CompUSA...what the heck, it was free!!), but worked fine in another 133 i
built.
anyway....play around with there placement. maybe you will get the right
combination by chance.

 

[Wildcat]

Between the 3rd and 4th PCI slot, where it's labeled A7V333-X, there's a small 2.01
written, I suppose it's the board revision. Did your 3000+ worked?? I'm still waiting
for my PC3200 memory.

SANDRA :

 

[Wildcat]

I had same problem, with the 1800+, the only way to make it work was putting
the 2 sticks of RAM in the 2nd and 3rd sockets, but with the 3000+, I think I
tried it every way, no luck. I'm still waiting for my PC3200's, keeping my
fingers crossed...

Cocahontas wrote :