2 pc's, 4 port router, home network

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I have an XP Pro box, and a Win2k Server pc with 2 nics. I want to connect
the 2 pc's via a 4 port router for a private network. On the Win2k server
pc, I have a second nic that will be used for my isp cable connection. What
settings do I use on the pc's and the router to enable both pc's to have
internet access from the public network and communication on the private
network also?
How do I configure the nics/router to accomplish this?
 
The whole idea of a router is that the connection to the ISP should go to the router. Why have it go to one of the PCs? This would
make that PC suseptible to attacks from hackers.
 
This is a learning process; the win2k server box will be promoted to my pdc
and serve only as the local netwrk's dns... it will have no user data on
it... can you assist with the original questions?
Michael Culley said:
The whole idea of a router is that the connection to the ISP should go to
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the router. Why have it go to one of the PCs? This would
 
Take the second nic out of the server,..it has no purpose. The 4-port
Router handles *everything* Internet related. Run all your machine with
single nics and plug them each into one of the 4 ports on the Router. All
machines use this Router as the Default Gateway,...but since they probably
get their addresses automatically from it, this will happen by itself. The
role of your "server" is only for the LAN and is not "internet related" in
any way.

There is no such thing as a PDC with Windows 2000 or 2003. If you make the
Server a Domain Controller, it must have a statically assigned IP address
and use 127.0.0.1 for the DNS setting. Then all machines on the LAN use that
Server as the DNS server. Then on this Server you place the ISP's DNS Server
in the Forwarder's List within the configuration of DNS. This does *not*
effect the configuration of the 4-port Router in any way.
 
I might be wrong, but when attempting to promote the server, I do recall a
dialogue box about this server being the domain's first and only controller
making it a PDC. The OS is Windows 2000 Server; not Windows 2000. The only
instructions I've received from my isp concerning ip assignment is that all
nics must use DHCP. How can I promote my network workgroup to a domain IF
there is only one nic in this server box that has to be set to DHCP?

Phillip Windell said:
Take the second nic out of the server,..it has no purpose. The 4-port
Router handles *everything* Internet related. Run all your machine with
single nics and plug them each into one of the 4 ports on the Router. All
machines use this Router as the Default Gateway,...but since they probably
get their addresses automatically from it, this will happen by itself. The
role of your "server" is only for the LAN and is not "internet related" in
any way.

There is no such thing as a PDC with Windows 2000 or 2003. If you make the
Server a Domain Controller, it must have a statically assigned IP address
and use 127.0.0.1 for the DNS setting. Then all machines on the LAN use that
Server as the DNS server. Then on this Server you place the ISP's DNS Server
in the Forwarder's List within the configuration of DNS. This does *not*
effect the configuration of the 4-port Router in any way.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

mgm said:
This is a learning process; the win2k server box will be promoted to my pdc
and serve only as the local netwrk's dns... it will have no user data on
it... can you assist with the original questions?
to
the router. Why have it go to one of the PCs? This would connection.
What
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You will need 2 nics, one should be DCHP for your ISP and the other looks like it needs to have a static IP.

--
Michael Culley


mgm said:
I might be wrong, but when attempting to promote the server, I do recall a
dialogue box about this server being the domain's first and only controller
making it a PDC. The OS is Windows 2000 Server; not Windows 2000. The only
instructions I've received from my isp concerning ip assignment is that all
nics must use DHCP. How can I promote my network workgroup to a domain IF
there is only one nic in this server box that has to be set to DHCP?

Phillip Windell said:
Take the second nic out of the server,..it has no purpose. The 4-port
Router handles *everything* Internet related. Run all your machine with
single nics and plug them each into one of the 4 ports on the Router. All
machines use this Router as the Default Gateway,...but since they probably
get their addresses automatically from it, this will happen by itself. The
role of your "server" is only for the LAN and is not "internet related" in
any way.

There is no such thing as a PDC with Windows 2000 or 2003. If you make the
Server a Domain Controller, it must have a statically assigned IP address
and use 127.0.0.1 for the DNS setting. Then all machines on the LAN use that
Server as the DNS server. Then on this Server you place the ISP's DNS Server
in the Forwarder's List within the configuration of DNS. This does *not*
effect the configuration of the 4-port Router in any way.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

mgm said:
This is a learning process; the win2k server box will be promoted to my pdc
and serve only as the local netwrk's dns... it will have no user data on
it... can you assist with the original questions?
The whole idea of a router is that the connection to the ISP should go to
the router. Why have it go to one of the PCs? This would
make that PC suseptible to attacks from hackers.

--
Michael Culley


I have an XP Pro box, and a Win2k Server pc with 2 nics. I want to
connect
the 2 pc's via a 4 port router for a private network. On the Win2k
server
pc, I have a second nic that will be used for my isp cable connection.
What
settings do I use on the pc's and the router to enable both pc's to have
internet access from the public network and communication on the private
network also?
How do I configure the nics/router to accomplish this?
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mgm said:
I might be wrong, but when attempting to promote the server, I do recall a
dialogue box about this server being the domain's first and only controller
making it a PDC.
Click to expand...

There is a PDC "role" and will be on the first DC created, but it is not the
same thing as the PDC in the old NT4 systems. I believe it is there for
compatibility reasons and is basically a "PDC Emulator".
 
The router is already serving that role and providing addresses for the
network. Adding a second Nic to the Server would only needlessly create a
"Back-to-Back DMZ" that can complicate the system in ways that aren't needed
unless he actually wants to specifically have such a DMZ and understands the
implications of having one.


--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


Michael Culley said:
You will need 2 nics, one should be DCHP for your ISP and the other looks
Click to expand...
like it needs to have a static IP.
--
Michael Culley


I might be wrong, but when attempting to promote the server, I do recall a
dialogue box about this server being the domain's first and only controller
making it a PDC. The OS is Windows 2000 Server; not Windows 2000. The only
instructions I've received from my isp concerning ip assignment is that all
nics must use DHCP. How can I promote my network workgroup to a domain IF
there is only one nic in this server box that has to be set to DHCP?

Phillip Windell said:
Take the second nic out of the server,..it has no purpose. The 4-port
Router handles *everything* Internet related. Run all your machine with
single nics and plug them each into one of the 4 ports on the Router. All
machines use this Router as the Default Gateway,...but since they probably
get their addresses automatically from it, this will happen by itself. The
role of your "server" is only for the LAN and is not "internet related" in
any way.

There is no such thing as a PDC with Windows 2000 or 2003. If you
Click to expand...
make
the
Server a Domain Controller, it must have a statically assigned IP address
and use 127.0.0.1 for the DNS setting. Then all machines on the LAN
Click to expand...
use
that
Server as the DNS server. Then on this Server you place the ISP's DNS Server
in the Forwarder's List within the configuration of DNS. This does *not*
effect the configuration of the 4-port Router in any way.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

This is a learning process; the win2k server box will be promoted to my
pdc
and serve only as the local netwrk's dns... it will have no user data on
it... can you assist with the original questions?
The whole idea of a router is that the connection to the ISP should go
to
the router. Why have it go to one of the PCs? This would
make that PC suseptible to attacks from hackers.

--
Michael Culley


I have an XP Pro box, and a Win2k Server pc with 2 nics. I want to
connect
the 2 pc's via a 4 port router for a private network. On the Win2k
server
pc, I have a second nic that will be used for my isp cable connection.
What
settings do I use on the pc's and the router to enable both pc's to
have
internet access from the public network and communication on the
private
network also?
How do I configure the nics/router to accomplish this?
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Phillip Windell said:
The router is already serving that role and providing addresses for the
network. Adding a second Nic to the Server would only needlessly create a
"Back-to-Back DMZ" that can complicate the system in ways that aren't needed
unless he actually wants to specifically have such a DMZ and understands the
implications of having one.
Click to expand...

He specifically stated he was doing this as a learning exercise and was just using the router as a hub.
 
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