2 HDD and Login problem?

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Guest

I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD w/o
using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)

or

2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access D:
drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
User1 only, E: for User2 only)

Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C: for
User2.

Thanks in advance!!
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

noob said:
I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD
w/o
using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)

or

2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access
D:
drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D:
for
User1 only, E: for User2 only)

Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C:
for
User2.

Thanks in advance!!

When specifying your requirements, you have to drop
the concept of "Users". It plays no role in this discusssion.
What's important is whether you require a machine with
one WinXP installation or two (=dual booting). Also:
Do you want to use a single disk or both disks?
 
G

Guest

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computer idiot


Pegasus (MVP) said:
When specifying your requirements, you have to drop
the concept of "Users". It plays no role in this discusssion.
What's important is whether you require a machine with
one WinXP installation or two (=dual booting). Also:
Do you want to use a single disk or both disks?

Fine, no "users" I will use Jack and Jill.

I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
by different Jack and Jill. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the
HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 1 for Jack and 1 for Jill) Is there there a way to do a switch
between the 2 HDD w/o using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for Jack, HDD2 for Jill).
Each HDD had it own OS.

Or

2) (1 HDD, Both Jack and Jill) A way to create a partition whereby only one
user can
access one partition allocated to him/her. Loging in as Jack can only access
to D:
drive and loging in as Jill can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
Jack only, E: for Jill only). 1 HDD with ONLY 1 OS and 2 LOGIN.

Currently, what I understand is that when Jack or Jill login, they can
access and the document in D: drive and E: drive. The only restriction is
Jack cant access the document in C: drive for Jill (Private).

I did not stated anything about dual boot
 
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Pegasus \(MVP\)

noob said:
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computer idiot




Fine, no "users" I will use Jack and Jill.

I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and
used
by different Jack and Jill. I used to have mobile rack to switch between
the
HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 1 for Jack and 1 for Jill) Is there there a way to do a switch
between the 2 HDD w/o using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for Jack, HDD2 for Jill).
Each HDD had it own OS.

Or

2) (1 HDD, Both Jack and Jill) A way to create a partition whereby only
one
user can
access one partition allocated to him/her. Loging in as Jack can only
access
to D:
drive and loging in as Jill can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
Jack only, E: for Jill only). 1 HDD with ONLY 1 OS and 2 LOGIN.

Currently, what I understand is that when Jack or Jill login, they can
access and the document in D: drive and E: drive. The only restriction is
Jack cant access the document in C: drive for Jill (Private).

I did not stated anything about dual boot

Your option 2) is by far the simplest solution:
- Single hard disk
- One logon account for Jack
- One logon account for Jill
- Appropriate access restrictions for folders located on drives
D: and E:.

Access restrictions can be set on drives D: and E: if they
use the NTFS file system. If they use the FAT32 file system
then they must first be converted to NTFS, using convert.exe.

Click Start / Help and look for help on "convert" to see how
it's done.

Click Start / Help and look for help on "permission" to see
how to set permissions. You'll find it under "Removable
Storage", even though your drives are fixed.
 
G

Guest

--
computer idiot


Pegasus (MVP) said:
Your option 2) is by far the simplest solution:
- Single hard disk
- One logon account for Jack
- One logon account for Jill
- Appropriate access restrictions for folders located on drives
D: and E:.

Access restrictions can be set on drives D: and E: if they
use the NTFS file system. If they use the FAT32 file system
then they must first be converted to NTFS, using convert.exe.

Click Start / Help and look for help on "convert" to see how
it's done.

Click Start / Help and look for help on "permission" to see
how to set permissions. You'll find it under "Removable
Storage", even though your drives are fixed.
\\Does this apply to Home edition or Pro?
 
G

Guest

Solved option 2.

I boot in as administrator in safe mode. go to my computer. right click on
the selected D: drive. click on security tab and add Jill and deny Jill
access to D: drive. did the same for E: but add Jack and deny Jack access to
E: Drive.

Anyone can solve Option 1???

Thanks!
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

noob said:
Solved option 2.

I boot in as administrator in safe mode. go to my computer. right click on
the selected D: drive. click on security tab and add Jill and deny Jill
access to D: drive. did the same for E: but add Jack and deny Jack access
to
E: Drive.

Anyone can solve Option 1???

Thanks!

Option 1 (Launching one or the other installation of Windows,
each on its own disk) is tedious to implement retrospectively
unless you decide to use a third-party boot manager such as
XOSL. With such a boot manager Option 1 is easy but only
after you have spent the time becoming familiar with its inner
workings. During the learning period you are likely to wipe
some or all of the existing OSs.

If you use the native boot manager for Option 1 then you risk
incorrect system drive letters and/or mixed up systems, with
installation A using parts of installation B and vice versa.
Not recommended if you're a novice to multi-booting.
 
C

C.Joseph Drayton

noob said:
I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD w/o
using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)

or

2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access D:
drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
User1 only, E: for User2 only)

Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C: for
User2.

Thanks in advance!!

Hi Noob,

I am not sure exactly why you would want to do this but if
you want to do what your asking . . . Yes it is possible.

All you do is install the first copy of Windows. This will
be installed to DSK0.

Do not remove this drive or change its jumpers. Then do a
second install of Windows. When you do the second install,
make sure to tell it to install on the DSK1.

What will happen is the second install of Windows will
install a boot loader. The boot loader information will be
in the boot.ini file. Edit the boot.ini file so each version
of Windows has a unique name. So long as you password
protect each install of Windows. They will be totally
separate and independent of each other.

The first version will be on the DRV:C and the other will be
on DRV:D. You don't really need to worry about the DRV
identifiers since Windows will take care of that.

Ciao . . . C.Joseph

"A promise is nothing more than an attempt,
to respond to an unreasonable request."

http://blog.tlerma.com/
(A Windows professional's view of entering the Linux world)
 
G

Guest

Option 1 (Launching one or the other installation of Windows,
each on its own disk) is tedious to implement retrospectively
unless you decide to use a third-party boot manager such as
XOSL. With such a boot manager Option 1 is easy but only
after you have spent the time becoming familiar with its inner
workings. During the learning period you are likely to wipe
some or all of the existing OSs.

If you use the native boot manager for Option 1 then you risk
incorrect system drive letters and/or mixed up systems, with
installation A using parts of installation B and vice versa.
Not recommended if you're a novice to multi-booting.
Thanks! Seems like the safest way to have option 1 is still to have a mobile
rack.
 
G

Guest

Hi Noob,
I am not sure exactly why you would want to do this but if
you want to do what your asking . . . Yes it is possible.

All you do is install the first copy of Windows. This will
be installed to DSK0.

Do not remove this drive or change its jumpers. Then do a
second install of Windows. When you do the second install,
make sure to tell it to install on the DSK1.

What will happen is the second install of Windows will
install a boot loader. The boot loader information will be
in the boot.ini file. Edit the boot.ini file so each version
of Windows has a unique name. So long as you password
protect each install of Windows. They will be totally
separate and independent of each other.

The first version will be on the DRV:C and the other will be
on DRV:D. You don't really need to worry about the DRV
identifiers since Windows will take care of that.

Ciao . . . C.Joseph

"A promise is nothing more than an attempt,
to respond to an unreasonable request."

http://blog.tlerma.com/
(A Windows professional's view of entering the Linux world)
I will try that! Thanks!
 
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Lester Stiefel

Currently, I favor the second scenario. One common OS and 2
Data drives. The only exception is if there is a privileged
administrator- Bob for example. Bob would be able to access
items in the users section of C: drive (where OS and
programs would be stored.
A second (logical drive) would be placed on the first
physical HDD. Identify this as either D: or E: (whatever
windows says). The Logical would be for the first user, and
the data drive on #2 drive (Physical) would be for the
second user.
The only drawback to this is that each account would have to
be set for its custom data access folder.

noob wrote:
 

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