2 hard drives

G

Guest

Hi all,

I have recently bought a new hard drive and was wondering what was the best
set-up to have my 2 drives and 2 optical drives, for example, both HD
attached to the primary IDE channel (1 master and 1slave) or 1 HD on each
seperate channel (HD as master and optical as slave)?

Thanks in advance for advice.
 
K

Kerry Brown

Theoretically with modern drives it shouldn't make a difference if you use
80 wire cables on both controllers. The normal practice would be to put the
hard drives on the primary channel and the optical drives on the secondary.
 
J

Jim Lewandowski

Put each hard drive as the PRIMARY for each IDE channel. I had issues with BIOS detection
(timing) if the 2nd HD was a secondary.

Remember to use 80-pin cables.

JL
 
K

Kenny

Can't agree with you, all the PC's I've built have the 2 HDD on Primary IDE
and optical drives on Secondary.
Don't want to go into a long explanation but it also makes CD/DVD writing
less problematic.
 
A

Anna

Kenny said:
Can't agree with you, all the PC's I've built have the 2 HDD on Primary
IDE and optical drives on Secondary.
Don't want to go into a long explanation but it also makes CD/DVD writing
less problematic.


Kevin:
As you have discovered, you're going to get a number of conflicting
responses recommending this or that configuration of your IDE/ATAPI devices.
Based upon my own experience and tests the computer facility I was
associated with conducted a few years ago on this very issue -- in virtually
every case, aside from connecting one's working HD as Primary Master, it
really didn't matter performance-wise how the remaining drives (hard drives
& optical drives) were connected on the IDE channels.

Note I said "virtually every case". There were some rather rare situations
where it did matter with respect to HD connections/configurations. This
usually involved the encoding/decoding of extremely large video files
(gigabytes in size).

Similarly, we did run into situations (rare as they might be) where we
encountered a performance issue (read "speed of data transfer") involving
the IDE channel placement of two optical drives (Kenny's observation).
Strangely enough, we found *no* "common denominator" in this situation. In
some cases it was more desirable to connect both devices on the same IDE
channel (as Kenny has apparently found), while in other cases we found it
was better to connect them on separate IDE channels. But generally speaking
it simply didn't matter.

But do this. Experiment for yourself. In this instance don't rely on my
advice or anyone else's. Try different configurations of your devices and
run speed tests based on your normal day-to-day activities with the
computer, i.e., accessing programs, moving/copying files, burning CDs, etc.
See if there's any performance difference depending upon how this or that
device is connected and thus determine the best setup for your particular
needs.

It *is* true that all things considered, it's always (or nearly always) best
to connect the booting HD to the Primary Master position. But this is only
because some motherboards (a very few) do have a problem when the bootable
drive is located on a position other than PM. But it's probably a moot
point, since you would be hard-pressed to find a booting HD that a user has
connected to a position *other* than the PM one.

The ULTRA-5 mode is available on *both* IDE channels. Other than the booting
HD being normally connected to the Primary Master position as noted above
and notwithstanding the rather rare exceptions noted above, there are *no*
compelling reasons to connect hard drives on the primary IDE channel and
optical drives on the secondary IDE channel. In nearly every case there will
not be any performance degradation should a HD be connected on the secondary
IDE channel and an optical drive on the primary IDE channel.

Let me repeat that it's easy enough to conduct your own tests on the
particular machine you're using to determine if there’s any appreciable
difference in connecting your IDE/ATAPI devices. Connect your devices in
every conceivable configuration and while performing your day-to-day
computer operations, e.g., CD disk copying, moving/copying large amounts of
data between drives, photo/video editing processes, etc., determine if you
experience any performance issues depending upon the devices' connections.
And if so, connect your devices accordingly.
Anna
 
Y

Yves Leclerc

I would put both HD on the primary IDE.

Primary IDE on a lot of motherboards are usually the faster of the two IDE
ports. Since you want the hard drives to be on the fastest connection
possible, place them on the primary one.
 
J

Jim Lewandowski

Kenny said:
Can't agree with you, all the PC's I've built have the 2 HDD on Primary IDE and optical
drives on Secondary.

***
If you did the research and testing I did, when burning a DVD (CD), the C: or D: files
(IDE 0) will get copied to E: (IDE 1) (disc image) and then burnt to a slave DVD (CD)
writer. I can access BOTH hard drives simultaneously if I want when they are on different
IDEs.

You have to figure out the registry modification to allow the disc image to HONOR the
selection in the optical RECORDing tab on My Computer (select a drive where the disc image
will be stored). Windows XP doesn't honor your selection because they decided to have
registry keys that aren't even ACCESSED by the CD write process.


Don't want to go into a long explanation but it also makes CD/DVD writing less
problematic.

***
DVD/CD writing isn't channel intensive as the devices are WAY slower than hard drives.
That's why having the source disc image and the DVD being on the same IDE isn't a problem.
The hard drive will always be able to stage data to be written to optical faster than the
optical can ever process it.

I wholly disagree (I have 15+ years in hardware performance) with your assessment.

JL
 
G

Guest

Well thankyou all for taking the time to help me out and especially to Anna
for that detailed reply.

I think that's a good idea to try more than 1 configuration, which I will do.

If I notice any performance changes i'll let you guys know.

Kind regards

Kevin
 

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