XP OEM - Interesting conversation with MS employee

[Leythos]

And you trust these personal web pages???

Please. We don't have gangland shootings. We don't have kids shooting up
schools. We don't have lunatics shooting up McDonald's. We don't have Bush
murdering over 100,000 Iraqis and Afganis.

Not one single school in Spain has or needs to have a metal detector at the
door and cops in the hallways.

Get your facts straight.

I just posted what I saw in a simple google search, and it appears the
European way of dealing with criminals is INCREASING the crime rates in
those countries.

 

[Leythos]

Yaknow, snipping the hell out of my post only makes you look like a fool.

Stop it!

I will snip anything I want, it's a freedom thing that you may not
understand. I kept what I considered to be relevant to my reply, that's
how usenet has worked for two decades, get use to it.

How can they lead productive lives if they will be in prison forever like in
California's barbaric three strikes law?

Well, not everyone gets hit with the three strikes problem, some
actually learn to not commit crimes after the first offense, and some
actually get help, but you've got to want to change in order to change.
Oh, and I don't live in communist california or support most of their
ways/methods.

 

[Leythos]

I guess you agree with the part of my post you snipped?

Why, do you agree with every post I've made that you've not replied too?
I guess, following your logic, that you completely agree with all my
posts that you've not disputed.

 

[kurttrail]

And you didn't know how to change that for her?

No. The last time I saw her computer she had no need to boot from CD.
And that is beside the point. She wouldn't know how to do it herself,
and even with detailed instructions would not be confident enought to go
playing where she doesn't know anything about.

So, that means you discounted my 12 y/o non-technical son's ability to
install it and become productive for school work without any
difficulty and without my help?

"I game RedHat Fedora Core 3 to my youngest son (14)," - Liethos

Your youngest son got 2 years younger over the last few days!


Why would you think that something as

simple as FC3, which you have never tried, would not be ready when
the experience of many suggests that it's one of the easiest to
setup, full featured, and GUI menu based, and has a massive support
infrastructure and I would say the most drivers/hardware support of
any of the variants?

I was not evaluating Linux for my own personal use, although I do have
an interest in most OS's as I like to learn all the time, it was being
evaluated for clients desktops and servers in order to provide cost-
point levels and to provide fully workable systems out of the box. The
evaluation proved to me, that almost all my customers could move to
FC3 with little or no impact on their ability to perform business
functions. The only issue I can find is retraining support teams, and
the retraining of users to think a "little" differently - the desktop
is simple once you spend 10 minutes looking through the menu's.

Oh, one other thing, being a Partner doesn't mean much, other than
getting free licenses and resources for development - I will be
rolling out our first full linux based office later next month, email
server, 3 file servers, 28 workstations, and two branch offices with 4
workstations. Unlike your single mindedness, I've always looked at the
available options and paths and picked the "best" solution for a
scenario, I'm not stuck with only knowing one OS.

Expand your personal awareness, get a spare drive, install it, remove
your old one, try FC3 for a couple days, you will like it.

If you will lie about your children, you will lie about anything! I
will never take anything you have to say seriously ever again. As far
as I'm concerned, everything you write is a lie!

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[Leythos]

Your youngest son got 2 years younger over the last few days!

Addressed in your first reply about this - I made a mistake and typed my
daughters age that time. I suppose you've never mixed up your kids ages
when replying to disinterested people.

 

[kurttrail]

Addressed in your first reply about this - I made a mistake and typed
my daughters age that time. I suppose you've never mixed up your kids
ages when replying to disinterested people.

I don't believe you. You are just telling more lies!

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[kurttrail]

I will snip anything I want, it's a freedom thing that you may not
understand. I kept what I considered to be relevant to my reply,
that's how usenet has worked for two decades, get use to it. <snip>

That's right Alias! He has every right to make himself look like a fool
by snipping without showing that he is snipping!

I even know trolls that acknowledge that they have snipped. You are
lower than a troll, Lameboy!

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[Leythos]

I don't believe you. You are just telling more lies!

Kurt, did you wake up on the floor today? You seem particular nasty,
even for your norm, today.

I would suggest that you get back in bed, sleep a couple more hours, or
start drinking now and don't stop for a couple hours, it can only
improve your human skills.

 

[Alias]

I just posted what I saw in a simple google search, and it appears the
European way of dealing with criminals is INCREASING the crime rates in
those countries.

Personal web pages are your idea of authoritative information?

LOL!

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Why, do you agree with every post I've made that you've not replied
too? I guess, following your logic, that you completely agree with
all my posts that you've not disputed.

I believe I can say, "Yep" to that. Can you say that to me with a
straight face?!

You know, it's really funny that you seemed to be much more likeable
when you had screwed up ribs and were doped up on percacets! The real
you is just a total f*^kwit, out & out liar, and an all around scumbag!

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[kurttrail]

Leythos wrote:

If they get the death-penalty, hang them on the court-house lawn, it
would put the fear of the law into criminals or wanna-be criminals.

Then why is it that countries without the death penalty have lower
murder rates?

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[Leythos]

Personal web pages are your idea of authoritative information?

It was actually more authoritative than your posting it here with only
your opinion to back you up. At least I posted links to something that
contradicted your position.

 

[Alias]

I would suggest that you get back in bed, sleep a couple more hours, or
start drinking now and don't stop for a couple hours, it can only
improve your human skills.

Did you know that you only have one liver and it is permanetly tied to you
body, can't be upgraded or reinstalled? It can be replaced with a used liver
but those don't have very long lifespans.

Alias

 

[Alias]

It was actually more authoritative than your posting it here with only
your opinion to back you up. At least I posted links to something that
contradicted your position.

You base your opinion on a personal web page that agrees with you. I base
mine on living both in Spain and the USA, yaknow, personal experience?

Enough said, we're totally off topic here. Let's leave it you continuing to
live in JesusLand and I'll live in a civilized country.

Alias

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Personal web pages are your idea of authoritative information?

Why not? Aren't you frequently citing the personal (and biased and
deliberately misleading) web site of your hero, Kurttrail? If it's good
enough for you...


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both at once. - RAH

 

[Leythos]

Leythos wrote:



Then why is it that countries without the death penalty have lower
murder rates?

Only some do, others have higher murder rates - it's all subjective and
based on what is/isn't reported.

A proper statement would be that "Some countries without the death
penalty have lower murder rates than the US".

Seems that until Turkey decided it wanted to join the EU, it was still
executing people up to 1984.

Turkey has not executed anyone since 1984, although courts regularly
impose death sentences -- 50 people now are on death row.

Interesting information on Spain and prison rates:

A more revealing measure of a country=3Fs imprisonment rate is therefore
the number of prisoners for every 1,000 crimes committed. On this
measure, Britain sends relatively few people to prison. In Britain only
around 12 people are in prison for every 1,000 recorded crimes. The
lowest in Europe is Sweden, with 4.7 per 1,000. Spain imprisons 48
people for every 1,000 crimes and Ireland 33 people for every 1,000
crimes.

What's interesting to me is that it doesn't make any difference what the
crime rate is outside the US as long as they don't ship their criminals
here. If other countries systems worked, with the same socioeconomic
standings as the US, it would be relevant and might be something to look
at. At this time, until we can get rid of all the "politically correct"
types and the ones that want to provide "Excuses" for others, we're
stuck with what we've got.

 

[Alias]

Why not? Aren't you frequently citing the personal (and biased and
deliberately misleading) web site of your hero, Kurttrail? If it's good
enough for you...

Bruce Chambers

Um, I have quoted one page of Kurt's web site a couple of times. Good
advice, advice that works for people who don't think they should have to pay
for something twice. Another site I have cited was from Microsoft,
activation FAQs.

Like I said to Leythos, this is getting off topic. If you're happy living in
the totalitarian JesusLand with a total idiot in the White House, so be it.
If you're happy sending your children to school where metal detectors are at
the door and cops in the hall, so be it. I've been there, done that and worn
out the T-Shirt and am now happily living in a civilized country.

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Did you know that you only have one liver and it is permanetly tied to you
body, can't be upgraded or reinstalled? It can be replaced with a used liver
but those don't have very long lifespans.

LOL - and yes, I do know a lot about the liver. My father has liver
cancer, been through three operations in 5 years, and is actually doing
quite well now that he's started treatment. I should also point out that
I didn't sign an EULA for a liver when I was born, it was already
installed and I can't be bound to something I didn't agree too.

 

[kurttrail]

Kurt, did you wake up on the floor today? You seem particular nasty,
even for your norm, today.

I deliberately show my lack of respect for liars!

I would suggest that you get back in bed, sleep a couple more hours,
or start drinking now and don't stop for a couple hours, it can only
improve your human skills.

I wouldn't want your human skills of being able to lie without feeling
guilty about it.

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[Leythos]

Um, I have quoted one page of Kurt's web site a couple of times. Good
advice, advice that works for people who don't think they should have to pay
for something twice. Another site I have cited was from Microsoft,
activation FAQs.

And not everyone is going to agree with that interpretation of the fair
use act, and that's their right to disagree with him.

Like I said to Leythos, this is getting off topic. If you're happy living in
the totalitarian JesusLand with a total idiot in the White House, so be it.
If you're happy sending your children to school where metal detectors are at
the door and cops in the hall, so be it. I've been there, done that and worn
out the T-Shirt and am now happily living in a civilized country.

I support Bush, I don't have metal detectors in any schools in our city,
have kids getting a good education, and believe in the current
governments mission to remove oppressive goverments that we (as well as
other countries governments) put in place. I would not want to live in
a country that lets terrorists dictate national policy or where
terrorists are free and encouraged to attack them.