Why Vista is great - and people need to stop looking for things...

[Adam Albright]

You need to check your facts buddy. Upgrade starts at $99. Don't be a
friggin' drama queen!

You mean you're dumb enough to buy the basic upgrade? Heck, I thought
people would understand you start at Home Premium.

Yet another worthless troll that feels the need to exaggerate, lie and
spouts BS that isn't true.

Translation: Anybody that isn't a Microsoft apologist is a troll.

Unfortunately you DO seem as dumb as you sound.

Vista works. Period. With the right hardware and the right drivers, it's
pretty damn solid. Do you have either? Probably not. Same deal with 98,
2000, XP.......

Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. You may fool some
people, (doubtful) you for sure don't fool me.

 

[Adam Albright]

I have nothing to apologize for. I run Vista and it run very well on my
hardware. It seems a little research on my part paid off. Gee, go figure!

You figured out how to keep downloading your porn. Good for you kid.

 

[Leythos]

This coming from someone who thinks you have to have at least a Core 2 Duo
to run Vista.

They say ignorance is bliss!

Maybe you just don't do enough with your computer, and maybe you are
saying that MS is wrong about Vista?

My test machines passed, completely, the vista certification tests, and
yet I still had trouble with each of them.

I'm currently on a 1.5GB RAM, P4 3.2ghz Hyper Threaded CPU, 5400RPM
drive, etc... I've disabled Windows Defender, stopped Indexing, set all
Video performance settings to highest performance, even set the display
to 16bit, and adjusted the NVidia settings for best performance.

This laptop is less than 1 year old and ran XP and 2003 server nicely
before Vista - I did a virgin install of Vista Business and all updates
MS could install.

Scores are as follows:

Processor: 4.5
Memory: 4.1
Graphics: 2.0
Gaming Gr: 2.5
Hard Disks 4.4

 

[Leythos]

.........There are no words for you. If that's what you THINK that app told
you about your computer then.....wow!

There is NO WAY I believe you are in IT yet alone running an IT business.

I can't believe that you are so thickheaded that you can't understand the
fact that you just have to wait for better drivers for your hardware. Your
hardware IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE for Vista (if that's what the app told
you). But that doesn't mean you have the drivers to back it up, YET.

If you seriously believe the Vista Upgrade Advisor was pre programmed to
understand ALL hardware and ALL software and ALL drivers and ALL firmware
then you truly have no clue. Another reason to feel sorry for your
customers.

The entire point of my post was to indicate that a quick, responsive,
great performing computer, under XP and 2003 Server, is brought to its
knees under Vista.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't expect Vista to be fast, and I'm not
disapointed from what I see, but, it's a clear shame that they could not
get at least a good level of performance out of something that they
already had working so well.

You just don't know what you're talking about and you're doing at good
job proving it.

 

[Adam Albright]

Then you shouldn't be having THIS MUCH of an issue. You're obviously doing
something wrong! I have a few laptops that also run Vista just fine. Trust
me, the problem is you.

Silly boy, problems are a direct result of what hardware and software
you have installed. If you have "no problems" that suggests your
hardware and software is different than what people having problems
have installed in their system. If this gets too tough for you to
follow along, just let me know.

Lucky enough? Hahahahaha. Unlike most idiot IT people I actually put
thought into building a machine. It sounds like you blindly buy up INTEL
only product and slap it all together. Tisk tisk tisk!

Look bud, bottom line. If you want to run Vista then you need Vista
compatible hardware and software. Something you obviously do not have.

You make that determination by staring into your crystal ball or do
you rely on tea leaf reading? You further show your ignorance by
claiming Vista can only run Vista compatible software. Not true. I'm
running several Windows 3.1 vintage software applications, just
because I like them without modification or dropping down to lower
compatibility modes. Kid, you just keep blowing smoke out your ass.
Entertaining yes, but rather foolish if you want to keep what little
creditiblity you got left.

Office 2007 runs FINE on Vista. However, seeing as how you seriously driver
issues I have no doubt that most anything wont run fro squat on your poorly
built machines.

The bottom line is you're a fool. I'm just whispering so hopefully
nobody else will hear. <giggle>

 

[Adam Albright]

It's all IDIOT ERROR. These are people that THINK they're computer savvy
when in fact they don't know squat!

They upgraded with out first guaranteeing SUPPORT for their hardware. That
is something that must be done when you install a new OS.

They're people that THINK they can stroll down to CompUSA and buy a bunch of
pretty boxes then build a computer out of it and install whatever OS they
want. Well, you CAN but it's not smart or wise.

If buying new hardware is not an option then people simply need to wait for
more driver support.

Does your mommy know you posting here kid?

 

[Eric]

1GB of video ram!?!?!?!?

I don't any of that and Vista runs just fine.

Well, you could get by on 512 MB or even 256 MB of video RAM, but you should
get 1 GB if you want to run Vista with all the bells and whistles, with that
transparent theme and such.

If you get less than what I mentioned, you'll probably want to upgrade
within 4-5 years.

 

[Eric]

Maybe you just don't do enough with your computer, and maybe you are
saying that MS is wrong about Vista?

My test machines passed, completely, the vista certification tests, and
yet I still had trouble with each of them.

I'm currently on a 1.5GB RAM, P4 3.2ghz Hyper Threaded CPU, 5400RPM
drive, etc... I've disabled Windows Defender, stopped Indexing, set all
Video performance settings to highest performance, even set the display
to 16bit, and adjusted the NVidia settings for best performance.

This laptop is less than 1 year old and ran XP and 2003 server nicely
before Vista - I did a virgin install of Vista Business and all updates
MS could install.

Scores are as follows:

Processor: 4.5
Memory: 4.1
Graphics: 2.0
Gaming Gr: 2.5
Hard Disks 4.4

Did you actually claim to be an IT guy?
You may need to find another line of work if you would actually put together
a system with a 3.2 GHz processor, 1.5 GB RAM and a 5400 RPM hard drive.
Every decent hard drive for at least the past 5 years is at least 7200 RPM.
What video card do you have in that machine?

 

[Alias]

Did you actually claim to be an IT guy?
You may need to find another line of work if you would actually put together
a system with a 3.2 GHz processor, 1.5 GB RAM and a 5400 RPM hard drive.
Every decent hard drive for at least the past 5 years is at least 7200 RPM.
What video card do you have in that machine?

Seagate just released a 10000 RPM drive.

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Did you actually claim to be an IT guy?
You may need to find another line of work if you would actually put together
a system with a 3.2 GHz processor, 1.5 GB RAM and a 5400 RPM hard drive.
Every decent hard drive for at least the past 5 years is at least 7200 RPM.
What video card do you have in that machine?

I posted that set from a laptop, and if you had been reading this thread,
you would know that I was also testing on a laptop. You might also see
that the issue, at least from score, is not Hard Disk performance, at
least I don't believe a 4.4 is all that bad (certainly not great).

Just so you don't miss it again, it's a laptop that I was testing, and in
case you don't understand, it's a laptop with a full P4 3.2g hyper
threaded CPU, not one of those crappy mobile CPU's.

Now, before you show your zealotry, look at the part you missed "This
laptop is less than 1 year old" - And I could not find a good 120GB 7200
RPC drive that would fit in this laptop.

 

[Leythos]

Did you actually claim to be an IT guy?
You may need to find another line of work if you would actually put together
a system with a 3.2 GHz processor, 1.5 GB RAM and a 5400 RPM hard drive.
Every decent hard drive for at least the past 5 years is at least 7200 RPM.
What video card do you have in that machine?

I posted that set from a laptop, and if you had been reading this thread,
you would know that I was also testing on a laptop. You might also see
that the issue, at least from score, is not Hard Disk performance, at
least I don't believe a 4.4 is all that bad (certainly not great).

Just so you don't miss it again, it's a laptop that I was testing, and in
case you don't understand, it's a laptop with a full P4 3.2g hyper
threaded CPU, not one of those crappy mobile CPU's.

Now, before you show your zealotry, look at the part you missed "This
laptop is less than 1 year old" - And I could not find a good 120GB 7200
RPC drive that would fit in this laptop.

 

[Justin]

You mean you're dumb enough to buy the basic upgrade? Heck, I thought
people would understand you start at Home Premium.

Nice! Good way to offend a hundred thousand plus people. Basic is the
direct upgrade from home. Premium is the direct replacement for MCE. You
just showed us exactly what you are with this comment. No reason to
continue. Except to point out how I like when I proved you f-ed up in your
previous post your insecure childish reasoning tried to divert the issue by
calling me and countless others dumb. Classic!

Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. You may fool some
people, (doubtful) you for sure don't fool me.

See above.

 

[Justin]

You figured out how to keep downloading your porn. Good for you kid.

Wow, you're wittiness is just too much to handle.

 

[Justin]

At first I thought you where kidding. You're not?

Do you mean RAM or Video RAM? I couldn't find any video cards on the market
that had that much memory. The newly released Nvidia 8800GTX only has 768MB
(only...that's funny).

For system memory, I have two machines with 512MB and they run fine but are
more hesitant then the my 1GB machines. My 2GB machines don't run any
better then the 1GB machines nor does my 4GB machine at home.

My machine at home is the 8800GTX as well as one machine at work. The rest
all have 256MB of video RAM and those running Aero, run fine.

 

[Justin]

Ok, I guess I have to resort to repeating myself.

1. The Vista Upgrade Advisor is just a BASELINE TOOL.
2. You need to WAIT for better driver support for your hardware. This does
NOT mean Vista is at fault.
3. You obviously have a graphics issue. That score sucks. If you have a
decent video card then you are most likely experiencing a major driver
issue. Which will more then likely cause OTHER issues.
4. Your HDD score is 4.4 with a 5400RPM drive? Wow! That's a huge error.
I don't believe that one for a second.
5. Make sure to remember #2!!!!!!!

 

[Justin]

And go get yourself a new 7200 drive for you lappy. That'll speed things
up!

 

[Adam Albright]

For system memory, I have two machines with 512MB and they run fine but are
more hesitant then the my 1GB machines. My 2GB machines don't run any
better then the 1GB machines nor does my 4GB machine at home.

You've already established your ignorance beyond doubt, but if you
feel you need to continue with comments like the above, please
continue for our amusement.

Hint: how much RAM you have (need) depends on WHAT applications you're
running, if you typically run multiple applications at once
(multiasking), etc..

Your previous comments claiming Vista runs fine for you plus your
latest admission you have PC's with only 512MB of RAM confirms you
most likely have nothing running on your boxes of any complexity which
explains why Vista hasn't stumbled.

Other people here me included obviously have far more extensive
systems where Vista can and has stumbled often and badly because of.

The polite thing for you and others like you to do would be to show
some compassion instead of being a wise ass pretending to be expert
when clearly you keep proving you really have no idea what you're
talking about.

 

[Justin]

If you have "no problems" that suggests your
hardware and software is different than what people having problems
have installed in their system. If this gets too tough for you to
follow along, just let me know.

Wow, there's a "no shit" statement for you! What part of this have you NOT
been following along with? Drivers, drivers, drivers!!!! You need to learn
what those are. I've specifically built Vista capable machines. I have
machines that can run Vista just fine. So OF COURSE I'm running different
"software" then those that don't work. Thanks for stating the obvious!

You make that determination by staring into your crystal ball or do
you rely on tea leaf reading?

No, I base that on the fact that HE mentioned having nothing but THE BEST
Intel hardware. Damn dude, you really need to follow along better. Wake
up!

You further show your ignorance by
claiming Vista can only run Vista compatible software. Not true. I'm
running several Windows 3.1 vintage software applications.

I never said any such thing. This is a prime example of you reading "A" yet
thinking "B". I mentioned what a person needs to do to make sure they don't
run into any problems. So you have fun with your Windows 3.1 applications!
The point here which you utterly failed to realize is that Vista is meant to
run Vista software. It was designed to be backwards compatible but not 100%
backwards compatible. So anyone bitching and moaning because their existing
app doesn't work just needs to wait for that THIRD PARTY to deliver a fix.
Are you able to keep up with that?

Kid, you just keep blowing smoke out your ass.
Entertaining yes, but rather foolish if you want to keep what little
creditiblity you got left.

That smoke must be coming out of your own ass based on your disillusionment
proven in the above response. Also, please refrain from day dreaming about
my ass you perve!

 

[Justin]

Damn dude, you truly are stupid.

Hint: how much RAM you have (need) depends on WHAT applications you're
running, if you typically run multiple applications at once
(multiasking), etc..

So? What's your point? Who said anything about applications? We're
talking about Vista as an OS. Are you trying to tell us you need 1GB of
video RAM to run Office? You came into a conversation not even knowing what
we're talking about. Think man, THINK!

Your previous comments claiming Vista runs fine for you plus your
latest admission you have PC's with only 512MB of RAM confirms you
most likely have nothing running on your boxes of any complexity which
explains why Vista hasn't stumbled.

In regards to how much memory a machine needs to run, compatibility of third
party apps to Vista is of no concern. Seems you have no point here. Or did
you have an agenda with this comment? Because that would be a pretty big
LOSER thing to do.

Other people here me included obviously have far more extensive
systems where Vista can and has stumbled often and badly because of.

More extensive then 8800GTX and 4GB of memory? If stroking yourself feels
that good then by all means, please DO IT IN PRIVATE!

The polite thing for you and others like you to do would be to show
some compassion instead of being a wise ass pretending to be expert
when clearly you keep proving you really have no idea what you're
talking about.

Compassion towards what? I was having a conversation with Eric you twit! I
was clearing up the 1GB of video memory mentioned. I can not believe how
much of an idiot you are! It's amazing!!!

 

[Adam Albright]

Ok, I guess I have to resort to repeating myself.

1. The Vista Upgrade Advisor is just a BASELINE TOOL.

Actually its a MARKETING tool that tells nearly everybody your system
will support Vista and oh, by the way, while I (Vista Upgrade Advisor)
don't understand the list of drivers I'm showing you I see on your XP
system that works fine they "shouldn't" present any problems, wink,
wink once you upgrade to Vista. No, not until you ACTUALLY BUY Vista
then try to install Vista then those "not a issue" drivers the Vista
Upgrade Advisor glossed over and said wouldn't be a big deal, often
BECOME a big enough deal to crash the Vista installer and dump you to
a BSOD screen frequently at the 21% point.

I'm guessing you didn't have to deal with this issue. Ignorance is
bliss isn't it.