Where the heck is Java VM?

[Agoston Bejo]

Hi, I'm starting to go mad about this.
I'm trying to get the Java VM for my IE6 on Windows XP. On the Microsoft
site it is said that MSJVM or whatever its name is not supported any more.
All right, go to java.sun.com. A few months ago I could download there a
patch intended directly for IE/WinXP users. Now this link won't work for me
in IE and redirects to a page in Netscape that says that I have the VM
installed, congratulations. (Which is true for Netscape, but I need it for
Explorer).

So where can I download that damn secret thing, Java VM?

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Agoston - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test JavaScript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm


There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Dec 31, 2007, MS will apparently no longer be
distributing Java or providing any support for Java including security
fixes. See here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ so you might want
to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using the
dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java plug-in
here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3805 or v.3809 prior to
upgrading to v. 3810 if you didn't previously have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and install
MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here (these are also
reported to work for XP):
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.exe
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe
http://www.sijet.com/msjavx86.exe


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe or v. 3805 from
here:
http://www.sijet.com/msjavx86.exe (or you can try the SP4 3805's listed just
above)


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the entry for Windows 2000 SP4 (this seems to
be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find 816093 in the list. You
can find directions for using the Windows Update Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;323166. (I am
informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you rename the downloaded file from
here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 to
msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4. The following four additional
ftp sources MAY also work, either directly or using Saybo's procedure,
below: ftp.procergs.com.br/pub/procergs/ASP/JavaXP/Microsoft
ftp.eesnet.ru/windows/internet/MSIE/msjavwu.exe
ftp.boulder.ibm.com/software/xde/2003.06.12.01/install/DISK1/SETUP/SETUP/pat
ches/msjavwu.exe
ftp.hs-niederrhein.de/pub/security/systems/winxp/fixes/security-bulletins/us
a/msjavwu.exe )

The following procedure has also been reported to work for Win2kSP4 by Saybo
at
"I always try to install the 3805 package 1st. Most of the time that
does not work, so I then have them download the 3810 package, open it
in WinZip and extract msjava.dll and vmhelper.dll to the system32
folder. Then run the 3810 install. This has had a 100% success rate
for the last couple of months."



Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select which
one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart all IE
browsers. Here, courtesy of Mitch Gallant, MVP Security, is a tiny utility
which allows you to toggle and view status of your current Java VM vendor
associated with IE:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/index.html

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility: If/when you install a new
version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually select to have Sun JVM as default
JVM for IE (in install), or after install via the JavaPlugin control panel.
This generates the necessary win32 registry entries, which must be present
for the utility to know about JavaPlugin. After that, the utility should
work properly."

 

[Altrüs]

Hi,

Not sure if this helps:

http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
(the manual download page)

Alternatively, this is the link for the Windows offline
download page:

http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=9723

And the regular Windows installation:

http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=9724


Best regards,

Altrus





: Hi, I'm starting to go mad about this.
: I'm trying to get the Java VM for my IE6 on Windows XP. On
the Microsoft
: site it is said that MSJVM or whatever its name is not
supported any more.
: All right, go to java.sun.com. A few months ago I could
download there a
: patch intended directly for IE/WinXP users. Now this link
won't work for me
: in IE and redirects to a page in Netscape that says that I
have the VM
: installed, congratulations. (Which is true for Netscape,
but I need it for
: Explorer).
:
: So where can I download that damn secret thing, Java VM?
:
:

 

[Touch Base]

On Windows NT, Windows 2000, or Windows XP choose "Start", then "Run", then
type "CMD" and hit the enter key.
On Windows 95,98, or ME , choose "Start", then "Run" then type "COMMAND" and
hit the enter key.
At the command prompt, type "JVIEW" and hit the enter key.
The version information will be at the right of the top most line. It will
have a format like "5.00.xxxx", where the "xxxx" is the build number. For
example, if the version number is 5.00.1234, you have build number 1234

The last MS build 3810

If installed you will see the version number on the top line. Version 3810
cannot be installed unless you have version 3805.

"It is most likely that your system already has the Microsoft VM on it if
you are running any operating system other than Windows XP. If you have
Windows XP and your computers manufacturer did not preinstall the Microsoft
VM, or you did not download the Microsoft VM from Windows Update or
http://www.microsoft.com prior to July 10 2003, your system may not have the
Microsoft VM on it. To get the Microsoft VM, you will need to install
Windows XP SP1. " SP1 provides version 3805.

http://java-virtual-machine.net/microsoft-virtual-machine.html

Download VM 3810
http://www.softnews.ro/public/cat/10/18/10-18-20.shtml

http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

 

[Greg R]

If installed you will see the version number on the top line. Version 3810
cannot be installed unless you have version 3805.

Actual it can be installed without an java on the system.
I have done in it on a windows 98 machine as well as xp sp1 machine.

Greg R

 

[Xylophone]

http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

Worked for me this morning: I too have XP (Home) and IE6: now Java is
working on my PC