vista rocks..

[xfile]

1. Women don't think like men - bet you're not married
2. Silicon comes from sands - you heard me right - sands, which is even
cheaper.

LOL

Tell her that diamonds is carbon that has been transformed with pressure
in heat,

in other words a peice of coal is carbon...that is diamond

while ram is made out of silicon... a much more advanced material.. let
her
where those on her ears when she is not using them on the PC,
so that way she has both functions in one item ;-)

Man, I'd love to know what some of you folks are running on your PCs.

My wife has a pretty much run-o-the-mill laptop (Intel Centrino, 512mb
RAM, bought almost one year ago) and the only thing I did for her to
upgrade her to Vista was to add a faster hard drive (5400 RPM instead of
4200 RPM). She mainly surfs the Internet, watches online videos and
movies, loads up Word or Excel a couple times a week, and she has no
complaints about the performance of her computer with 512mb.

On occasion I swipe her laptop and use it - I don't have any real
complaints about the way it runs. Yeah, my AMD dual-core lappie with 2gb
RAM, Aero, S-ATA HDD, etc. is crisper than hers is - but hers is
perfectly usable as-is.

Would performance be a bit crisper with 1gb of RAM? Probably. But she
wants those diamond earrings for Christmas and has forbidden me to
purchase a RAM upgrade for her laptop that she uses every day. Go
figure.

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[...]even though I have 1 + Gb ram on both machines, [...]

I don't even satisfied with my XP systems each has at least 1G RAM
installed, so my "assumption" for achieving similar "pleasure" of using
multi applications at the same time, it'd be at least 2G+ and might be
as well 3G for a satisfactory experience.

That is one of reasons, among others, for I think the initial investment
for adopting Vista is high.

 

[MicroFox]

I don't like linux that much either.....

I like vista as it SHOULD have been...

MS can pay me still, if they want my advice for Vienna the next edition of
windows after vista.

My price would be 300.000 dollars for a month of dedicated consulting.

Its cheap considering what I will give them... but I dont need much...

I care mostly for the advancement of technology and not personal gain.

 

[MicroFox]

Yes I know sand is silicon... but shhhhh keep it down.. there are women
eavesdropping in here...

HMM what where we saying? That silicon is better than diamonds right?.. hmm
silicon on the ears and silicon in the.....boo*....

1. Women don't think like men - bet you're not married
2. Silicon comes from sands - you heard me right - sands, which is even
cheaper.

LOL

Tell her that diamonds is carbon that has been transformed with pressure
in heat,

in other words a peice of coal is carbon...that is diamond

while ram is made out of silicon... a much more advanced material.. let
her
where those on her ears when she is not using them on the PC,
so that way she has both functions in one item ;-)

Man, I'd love to know what some of you folks are running on your PCs.

My wife has a pretty much run-o-the-mill laptop (Intel Centrino, 512mb
RAM, bought almost one year ago) and the only thing I did for her to
upgrade her to Vista was to add a faster hard drive (5400 RPM instead of
4200 RPM). She mainly surfs the Internet, watches online videos and
movies, loads up Word or Excel a couple times a week, and she has no
complaints about the performance of her computer with 512mb.

On occasion I swipe her laptop and use it - I don't have any real
complaints about the way it runs. Yeah, my AMD dual-core lappie with
2gb RAM, Aero, S-ATA HDD, etc. is crisper than hers is - but hers is
perfectly usable as-is.

Would performance be a bit crisper with 1gb of RAM? Probably. But she
wants those diamond earrings for Christmas and has forbidden me to
purchase a RAM upgrade for her laptop that she uses every day. Go
figure.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
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[...]even though I have 1 + Gb ram on both machines, [...]

I don't even satisfied with my XP systems each has at least 1G RAM
installed, so my "assumption" for achieving similar "pleasure" of using
multi applications at the same time, it'd be at least 2G+ and might be
as well 3G for a satisfactory experience.

That is one of reasons, among others, for I think the initial
investment for adopting Vista is high.

 

[xfile]

There is not better in their world, they want all.

Gee, you are smart but you should know more about women. They take
everything

Disclaimer: Pure joking without any offense.

Yes I know sand is silicon... but shhhhh keep it down.. there are women
eavesdropping in here...

HMM what where we saying? That silicon is better than diamonds right?..
hmm
silicon on the ears and silicon in the.....boo*....

1. Women don't think like men - bet you're not married
2. Silicon comes from sands - you heard me right - sands, which is even
cheaper.

LOL

Tell her that diamonds is carbon that has been transformed with pressure
in heat,

in other words a peice of coal is carbon...that is diamond

while ram is made out of silicon... a much more advanced material.. let
her
where those on her ears when she is not using them on the PC,
so that way she has both functions in one item ;-)



Man, I'd love to know what some of you folks are running on your PCs.

My wife has a pretty much run-o-the-mill laptop (Intel Centrino, 512mb
RAM, bought almost one year ago) and the only thing I did for her to
upgrade her to Vista was to add a faster hard drive (5400 RPM instead
of 4200 RPM). She mainly surfs the Internet, watches online videos and
movies, loads up Word or Excel a couple times a week, and she has no
complaints about the performance of her computer with 512mb.

On occasion I swipe her laptop and use it - I don't have any real
complaints about the way it runs. Yeah, my AMD dual-core lappie with
2gb RAM, Aero, S-ATA HDD, etc. is crisper than hers is - but hers is
perfectly usable as-is.

Would performance be a bit crisper with 1gb of RAM? Probably. But she
wants those diamond earrings for Christmas and has forbidden me to
purchase a RAM upgrade for her laptop that she uses every day. Go
figure.

--
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* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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[...]even though I have 1 + Gb ram on both machines, [...]

I don't even satisfied with my XP systems each has at least 1G RAM
installed, so my "assumption" for achieving similar "pleasure" of
using multi applications at the same time, it'd be at least 2G+ and
might be as well 3G for a satisfactory experience.

That is one of reasons, among others, for I think the initial
investment for adopting Vista is high.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

4GB. It is an arithmetic, not OS, max.

 

[MicroFox]

Yes thats what I thought... so indeed there is no reason for most people to
upgrade to vista

 

[Mike]

Yes thats what I thought... so indeed there is no reason for most people
to upgrade to vista

Other than better security, better looking, boots/shuts down faster, overall
runs faster, and a thousand under the hood changes - nope, no reason at all.

If you need more than 4 gig of RAM, you need Vista 64. Same as with XP.

Mike

 

[MicroFox]

Other than better security,
Correct but debateble since we dont know what will happen....

better looking,

This is the worse design - gui I have ever seen

boots/shuts down faster Correct

overall runs faster

TOTALLY INCORRECT!!!! You are showing signs of delusion- insanity.

and a thousand under the hood changes

Many changes.. I dont agree with most of them that I can see from the
functionality.
Heck the only change I like is the fact that you can see thumbs on the
desktop!

nope, no reason at all.

Correct. You should avoid vista at all cost.

 

[Mike]

TOTALLY INCORRECT!!!! You are showing signs of delusion- insanity.

No, that would be you.

Vista flies on this machine - and it's not exactly state of the art. 3 Ghz
P4 with 1 gig RAM on a Intel 875 chipset MB. ATI Radeon AIW X800XT AGP
with 256 megs RAM.

The UI is beautiful.

No one is forcing you to use it. Use something else if you don't like
Vista. Stick with XP. Get a Mac. Downgrade to Linux. Whatever.

Mike

 

[COLLIN]

My XP is just as secure (this is overblown - this is user knowledge),
shutdown and boot up is faster on my XP as it has been tweaked, and it runs
just as fast. Basically I did not see a difference when I tweaked both
systems. Some people do see a difference because they do not have the
tweaks for the other OS, and Vista has been tweaked.

 

[COLLIN]

256 MB video is what you better have for Vista and I can guarantee you on
real world usage that my XP SP2 is way faster and more responsive than your
Vista - period. You are just Vista envangelizing. I've got over 30 reg
tweaks that applies to caching, 8.3 file naming, etc. They already applied
some of these thing in vista (why they call in improved).

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

As people get into ReadyBoost, ReadyDrives, and see the benefits of
SuperFetch, etc., XP will not look very fast after all. The newer the
hardware, the greater the disparity between the OS's, even on the same new
hardware. XP was optimized on the new hardware of 2001. Vista is optimized
on the current new hardware trends. It is built to leverage the hardware
folks are buying today. Even a casual reading of the Windows Vista Product
Guide suggests so many ways that is true. Just the switch from desktop
rendering in the cpu to the gpu (Aero Glass or not) is really important for
performance.

 

[Mike]

256 MB video is what you better have for Vista and I can guarantee you on
real world usage that my XP SP2 is way faster and more responsive than
your Vista - period.

Not on this machine. Vista is faster than XP - period.

You are just Vista envangelizing.

You are just Vista bashing.

I've got over 30 reg tweaks that applies to caching, 8.3 file naming, etc.
They already applied some of these thing in vista (why they call in
improved).

Yep, I didn't need to apply any "tweaks" to Vista - already included.
That's why it's faster.

Mike

 

[MicroFox]

you mean your clean new install of vista is faster than a 2 year old
installation of xp.. lol

do clean install of both and do mesurments.. you will see that vista is far
slower

then install the same 100 programs on both computers and compare again

what you say is wrong... you are a blundering fool

 

[Mike]

you mean your clean new install of vista is faster than a 2 year old
installation of xp.. lol

My XP install on this machine is less than 6 months old. LOL. New
motherboard, new video card, new hard drives, new install of XP.

But hey, keep trying!

do clean install of both and do mesurments.. you will see that vista is
far slower

Been there done that. I had fresh installs of XP and Vista on my T41
ThinkPad. Vista wins.

Why do trolls insist they know the results of *my* testing better than
*me*?!?!?!

Mike

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Mike

I have been running two separate installations on my computer for quite a
while now..

Biostar 6100 '939' - AMD 3500+ - 3gb RAM - NX6600 VTD256E graphics

XP runs in 'classic' mode', Vista in full Aero.. Vista has consistently run
faster than XP, beta, RC1/2 and RTM alike..

I am waiting on Nvidia for the full video driver, version 6 of 'Stickies',
final drivers for my MS wireless Elite desktop set, and a version of Nero
that works properly.. everything else I have works flawlessly, scanner,
printer, etc..

Vista will succeed just like XP did.. Ubuntu will be nowhere, so no change
there..

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Yes I know sand is silicon... but shhhhh keep it down.. there are women
eavesdropping in here...

HMM what where we saying? That silicon is better than diamonds right?.. hmm
silicon on the ears and silicon in the.....boo*....

Women here?!? No way!

I have silicon on my keychain.

1. Women don't think like men - bet you're not married
2. Silicon comes from sands - you heard me right - sands, which is even
cheaper.

LOL

Tell her that diamonds is carbon that has been transformed with pressure
in heat,

in other words a peice of coal is carbon...that is diamond

while ram is made out of silicon... a much more advanced material.. let
her
where those on her ears when she is not using them on the PC,
so that way she has both functions in one item ;-)

Man, I'd love to know what some of you folks are running on your PCs.

My wife has a pretty much run-o-the-mill laptop (Intel Centrino, 512mb
RAM, bought almost one year ago) and the only thing I did for her to
upgrade her to Vista was to add a faster hard drive (5400 RPM instead of
4200 RPM). She mainly surfs the Internet, watches online videos and
movies, loads up Word or Excel a couple times a week, and she has no
complaints about the performance of her computer with 512mb.

On occasion I swipe her laptop and use it - I don't have any real
complaints about the way it runs. Yeah, my AMD dual-core lappie with
2gb RAM, Aero, S-ATA HDD, etc. is crisper than hers is - but hers is
perfectly usable as-is.

Would performance be a bit crisper with 1gb of RAM? Probably. But she
wants those diamond earrings for Christmas and has forbidden me to
purchase a RAM upgrade for her laptop that she uses every day. Go
figure.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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--
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"Price is actually no factor in piracy..." spoken by
Mike Brannigan

"But I'm not insulting people. I'm insulting Linux Loonies..."
spoken by Mike <[email protected]>

 

[DCR]

I too find Vista much, much faster and much more responsive than XP.

I love the fact that it boots and shuts down 10 times faster than XP.

So far, in about 2-1/2 months of daily testing, I have not had a single BSOD.

Really disappointed that my scanner and printer do not have drivers, but I am hopeful there will be
usable drivers once Vista is released to the public.

I think the Vista price is totally outrageous and the licencing terms are onerous, but I will
upgrade.

I know that I will reformat and reinstall Vista several times, to clean out the junk, etc, so I also
feel the requirement of installing a previous OS to be able to use an upgrade version is also
onerous. I am being forced to buy the full edition. I have been a loyal and legal user of MS OSs
since DOS 5.0, and I feel I am being abused by this new requirement.

I have some very exotic and very expensive video production equipment that requires Windows, so
Linux and the Mac are out of the questiion. And,after reading the reviews and specs of the latest
Mac boxes, oh how I wish I had gone with Mac from the beginning.

 

[Mike]

I have some very exotic and very expensive video production equipment that
requires Windows, so
Linux and the Mac are out of the questiion. And,after reading the reviews
and specs of the latest
Mac boxes, oh how I wish I had gone with Mac from the beginning.

Why? You would have been spending more for the boxes in the past, although
now they are just the same as any other WinTel. Plus you would have been
spending more for the OS. It's $130 every 18 months or so to stay current
with OS X.

Mike

 

[DCR]

| Why? You would have been spending more for the boxes in the past, although
| now they are just the same as any other WinTel. Plus you would have been
| spending more for the OS. It's $130 every 18 months or so to stay current
| with OS X.
|
| Mike

Maybe this one upgrade to the full Vista Ultimate would equal all those OS X upgrades.
And, the design (memory and HDDs) and performance (sexier cases too) of the new Mac desktops is far,
far superior to anything Wintel offers for my purposes.
Just pissed by MS's greed and paranoia.