Truth

T

Taliesyn

measekite said:
452 users over the past 2 months had printer problems and they were
using NON OEM inks. 3 people had problems using OEM inks but they went
for a long while without printing and 2 of them used AfterMarket inks
prior.

I've read every post for YEARS. And I can see every posted article in
the last two months. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN 452 USERS WITH PRINTER PROBLEMS
IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS USING NON OEM INKS! Am I yelling? This is pure
shit to back up the shit you've been inventing for the past year. To
get 452 you would need almost 8 posters per day. ABSOLUTE LIES!!!!!
I haven't seen ANY in ages.

If anything there have been more posts with clogging with OEM inks. But
that's only because more people use OEM than non OEM. Most clogging
problems have the posters admitting that he or she hadn't used the
printer very often. What brand of ink they were using is totally
irrelevant.
That tells me someting.

Yes, you certainly know how to tell them.

-Taliesyn
 
J

Jon O'Brien

452 users over the past 2 months had printer problems and they were
using NON OEM inks. 3 people had problems using OEM inks but they went
for a long while without printing and 2 of them used AfterMarket inks
prior.
That tells me someting.

67.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Now, what about all the other points that you've managed to ignore? Do we
take that as a sign that you have no response because you are forced to
agree?

Jon.
 
J

Jon O'Brien

I've also got an Epson 2100. I would be interested to know if you have
tried refilling the carts or using 3rd party carts and where you got
them from.

I've only used Epson carts, so I can't help. Sorry!

Jon.
 
M

measekite

CWatters said:
Hi Jon,

I've also got an Epson 2100. I would be interested to know if you have tried
refilling the carts or using 3rd party carts and where you got them from.
Thanks.

Colin

It sounds like he likes that printer. I do not think he wants to damage it.
 
M

measekite

Taliesyn said:
I've read every post for YEARS. And I can see every posted article in
the last two months. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN 452 USERS WITH PRINTER PROBLEMS
IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS USING NON OEM INKS!


Are U Count Can't or Can't Count?
 
R

Ron Cohen

Taliesyn said:
I've read every post for YEARS. And I can see every posted article in
the last two months. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN 452 USERS WITH PRINTER PROBLEMS
IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS USING NON OEM INKS! Am I yelling? This is pure
shit to back up the shit you've been inventing for the past year. To
get 452 you would need almost 8 posters per day. ABSOLUTE LIES!!!!!
I haven't seen ANY in ages.

If anything there have been more posts with clogging with OEM inks. But
that's only because more people use OEM than non OEM. Most clogging
problems have the posters admitting that he or she hadn't used the
printer very often. What brand of ink they were using is totally
irrelevant.


Yes, you certainly know how to tell them.

-Taliesyn


Now what right do you have to challenge the fantasy world pronouncements of
our resident non-expert? I think the 452 he is referring to is the number of
replies where he's altered the other persons message.
 
F

Frank

measekite said:
It sounds like he likes that printer. I do not think he wants to damage it.

Why would anyone want to damage their printer? Do you have any idea what
you're talking about?
I doubt it.
Frank
 
T

Taliesyn

Ron said:
Now what right do you have to challenge the fantasy world pronouncements of
our resident non-expert? I think the 452 he is referring to is the number of
replies where he's altered the other persons message.

Are you saying "Willie Wonka" alters (I'm so shocked!) other peoples'
posts and then posts an article entitled "Truth"?

I'm speechless!!!! . . . . not.

452, huh? You'd think we would have noticed at least 450 of them. Gee,
I must have missed those posts. Would he care to repost them for us -
all 452 for the last 2 months. That would work out to a fictional ...
2,712 in the last year. Anyone see those estimated 2,712 posts that NON
OEM ink users posted complaining of clogging.

-Taliesyn
 
B

Burt

measekite said:
(snip)>>

452 users over the past 2 months had printer problems and they were using
NON OEM inks. 3 people had problems using OEM inks but they went for a
long while without printing and 2 of them used AfterMarket inks prior.
(snip)

Mr. "stinky" has either been reading the inflated testimonials from the OEM
cult's prayer meetings, doesn't have a firm grasp on how to count beyond
the number of fingers on one hand, or has simply made up these numbers. He
certainly didn't get these numbers from this NG. Since I am a charitable
soul, I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and suggest that this
was simply a typo. If I had the time (yes, retired people have other things
to do besides correct erronious postings in newsgroups) I would go back and
count the clog reports and do him the favor of editing, snipping, and
otherwise altering his message to save him the embarassment that he must
obviously feel for this gaff. Oops, that might be regarded as harrassment
by my ISP and I would lose my opportunity to read his informative posts in
the future.
 
J

Jon O'Brien

It sounds like he likes that printer. I do not think he wants to damage
it.

Please don't try to drag me into your monomaniacal anti-third-party ink
campaign.

It has nothing to do with damage. I sell limited edition prints which, to
comply with the Fine Art Trade Guild's guidelines, must be printed using
the same ink and paper combination throughout the edition. I started
producing them using Epson inks and either Hahnemuhle Photo Rag or
Bockingford Inkjet Watercolour papers, so I have to stick with those
combinations.

I'd like, very much, to use the wider-gamut Lyson inks, so may eventually
get another printer to start new editions on.

Jon.
 
H

Hecate

I use an Epson 2100, the only printer which would do what I needed at the
time I bought it. None of the big name computer warehouses around here
sell cartridges for it. Neither do the few independent shops. There's one
place fairly close I can sometimes get Epson cartridges for it but often
have to wait for one or more colours to be delivered. As it happens, the
shop in question belongs to the UK's largest third-party cartridge and
refilling chain!
Hi Jon,

http://www.mx2.co.uk/

Good prices, fast delivery.

--

Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
 
H

Hecate

Hi Jon,

I've also got an Epson 2100. I would be interested to know if you have tried
refilling the carts or using 3rd party carts and where you got them from.
Thanks.

Colin
Colin,

I use the Permajet CIS system for the 2100. Good quality system and
good quality inks. I'm considering when I buy my next printer,
keeping the 2100 and using the Permajet Monochrome Pro system in that,
and then whatever Permajet produce for the 2400 (unless I go for the
4800).

--

Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
 
H

Hecate

Please don't try to drag me into your monomaniacal anti-third-party ink
campaign.

It has nothing to do with damage. I sell limited edition prints which, to
comply with the Fine Art Trade Guild's guidelines, must be printed using
the same ink and paper combination throughout the edition. I started
producing them using Epson inks and either Hahnemuhle Photo Rag or
Bockingford Inkjet Watercolour papers, so I have to stick with those
combinations.

I'd like, very much, to use the wider-gamut Lyson inks, so may eventually
get another printer to start new editions on.
Hi Jon,

From the tests I've seen, and personal experience, I'd go for
Permajet rather than Lyson.

P.S. Don'cha think Mooseshit is going in ever decreasing circles until
he disappears up his own internal contradictions? ;-)

--

Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
 
J

Jon O'Brien

Hi Hecate,
From the tests I've seen, and personal experience, I'd go for
Permajet rather than Lyson.

Except that FS Chrome inks are only available for the Permajet CIS. That's
£400 to get started, plus what ever the new printer costs! Unfortunately,
my prints aren't selling /that/ well (yet). The Lyson inks are available
in cartridges so it's not so much of an initial investment. One day...
P.S. Don'cha think Mooseshit is going in ever decreasing circles until
he disappears up his own internal contradictions? ;-)

He tends to back off when challenged and avoids confrontation with
whoever's shown him up as an idiot, for a while. Then he creeps back when
he thinks his last ridiculing has been forgotten. Just what you'd expect
from a kid his age, really. He may come to his senses once he's passed
puberty. Don't hold your breath, though.

Jon.
 
J

Jon O'Brien

http://www.mx2.co.uk/

Good prices, fast delivery.

I usually buy from MX2 but have been caught out a few times (I'm a lousy
administrator!). Cartridge World in Fleet can often supply from stock but
has had to get them from another branch a couple of times. When that
happens, someone drives over and delivers them to me! Excellent service.

Jon.
 

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