Text to .gif conversion

G

Guest

I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am real
new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside Out"
(Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a page
on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for which I
chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember where I
found it).

I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have coppied
the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and as
nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).

All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when an
image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your converted file
to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your FP
web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder in FP
into your design.

That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities of text.
You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of text to
..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image, etc.




| I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am
real
| new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside Out"
| (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a
page
| on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for which I
| chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember where I
| found it).
|
| I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have coppied
| the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and as
| nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
| company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
|
| All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when an
| image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| --
| Bill
 
G

Guest

Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained that
in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages to show
in my chosen font.

I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the server
when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some folder
outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.

This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras

"Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an ASP.NET
page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending a
resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
representation of text.
Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the browser
not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor’s computer might
not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn’t, the text will
appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space) than the
designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text at
larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces different
results than the designer intended."

"Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft Windows
2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers running
Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be installed on
the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and Windows
XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the download links.

To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra Web site
from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this site at
[My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras. Then,
copy
the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."

I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which is XP
Professional with some added goodies.
 
G

Guest

Further to my most recent post immediately below, doesn't this code
<img src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> indicate that the browser is to look in
the root directory and (in this case) run the program?
--
Bill


Bill O said:
Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained that
in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages to show
in my chosen font.

I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the server
when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some folder
outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.

This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras

"Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an ASP.NET
page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending a
resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
representation of text.
Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the browser
not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor’s computer might
not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn’t, the text will
appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space) than the
designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text at
larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces different
results than the designer intended."

"Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft Windows
2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers running
Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be installed on
the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and Windows
XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the download links.

To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra Web site
from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this site at
[My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras. Then,
copy
the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."

I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which is XP
Professional with some added goodies.

--
Bill


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your converted file
to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your FP
web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder in FP
into your design.

That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities of text.
You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of text to
..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image, etc.




| I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am
real
| new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside Out"
| (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a
page
| on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for which I
| chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember where I
| found it).
|
| I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have coppied
| the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and as
| nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
| company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
|
| All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when an
| image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| --
| Bill
 
A

ANONYMOUS

The best way to link the image is to first save it on your HD and then
to use the following text:

<center><img SRC="tex2gif01.gif" height=50 width=160></center>

I just tried it and it works!!.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Sounds complicated.
Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?

You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you can even
do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!


| Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained
that
| in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages to
show
| in my chosen font.
|
| I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the server
| when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some
folder
| outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
|
| This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
|
| "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an
ASP.NET
| page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending a
| resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
| representation of text.
| Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the browser
| not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's computer
might
| not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the text
will
| appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space) than
the
| designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text at
| larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces different
| results than the designer intended."
|
| "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft Windows
| 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers running
| Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be installed
on
| the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
| integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and
Windows
| XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the download
links.
|
| To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra Web
site
| from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this site
at
| [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras. Then,
| copy
| the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
|
| I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which is
XP
| Professional with some added goodies.
|
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your converted
file
| > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your FP
| > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder in FP
| > into your design.
| >
| > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities of
text.
| > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of
text to
| > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image, etc.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am
| > real
| > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside
Out"
| > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a
| > page
| > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for
which I
| > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember
where I
| > | found it).
| > |
| > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have
coppied
| > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and
as
| > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
| > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
| > |
| > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when
an
| > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | --
| > | Bill
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

I hate it when I have spent time writing a post, and then get "the server is
too busy" and I have to start all over again! Dang!

Well, whatever I wrote, it's out of my head now, so I'll try again.

Graphics editor? Paint? Paint is a program that I've never been able to do
anything with. I always thought of it as a toy that MS throws in. I can
never get what I want with it. It's a complete waste.

If it was all that simple, why would Jim Buyens waste time on a complete
section of FrontPage (Insider Extras on the CD) explaining how to do this at
the server.

I wish it was that simple. If it is, please explain to me how I do it.
That's what I'm here to find out. I don't see it in FrontPage and I don't
see in any of the image editors that I have. I appreciate you telling me it
can be done....I want to know how.
--
Bill


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Sounds complicated.
Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?

You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you can even
do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!


| Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained
that
| in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages to
show
| in my chosen font.
|
| I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the server
| when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some
folder
| outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
|
| This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
|
| "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an
ASP.NET
| page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending a
| resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
| representation of text.
| Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the browser
| not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's computer
might
| not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the text
will
| appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space) than
the
| designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text at
| larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces different
| results than the designer intended."
|
| "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft Windows
| 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers running
| Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be installed
on
| the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
| integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and
Windows
| XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the download
links.
|
| To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra Web
site
| from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this site
at
| [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras. Then,
| copy
| the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
|
| I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which is
XP
| Professional with some added goodies.
|
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your converted
file
| > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your FP
| > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder in FP
| > into your design.
| >
| > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities of
text.
| > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of
text to
| > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image, etc.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am
| > real
| > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside
Out"
| > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a
| > page
| > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for
which I
| > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember
where I
| > | found it).
| > |
| > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have
coppied
| > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and
as
| > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
| > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
| > |
| > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when
an
| > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | --
| > | Bill
| >
| >
| >
 
G

Guest

Type the text you want into Word or FrontPage or something, then hit Alt -
Print Scrn. Open Paint and paste it. Use the "Select" tool (top right
dotted square) to select the text you want, copy it and open another instance
of Paint and paste it there. Use "Save as..." to save as a gif and you're
done. Remember to import that gif image into a FrontPage folder before you
use it on a FrontPage page.

Bill O said:
I hate it when I have spent time writing a post, and then get "the server is
too busy" and I have to start all over again! Dang!

Well, whatever I wrote, it's out of my head now, so I'll try again.

Graphics editor? Paint? Paint is a program that I've never been able to do
anything with. I always thought of it as a toy that MS throws in. I can
never get what I want with it. It's a complete waste.

If it was all that simple, why would Jim Buyens waste time on a complete
section of FrontPage (Insider Extras on the CD) explaining how to do this at
the server.

I wish it was that simple. If it is, please explain to me how I do it.
That's what I'm here to find out. I don't see it in FrontPage and I don't
see in any of the image editors that I have. I appreciate you telling me it
can be done....I want to know how.
--
Bill


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Sounds complicated.
Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?

You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you can even
do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!


| Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained
that
| in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages to
show
| in my chosen font.
|
| I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the server
| when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some
folder
| outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
|
| This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
|
| "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an
ASP.NET
| page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending a
| resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
| representation of text.
| Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the browser
| not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's computer
might
| not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the text
will
| appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space) than
the
| designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text at
| larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces different
| results than the designer intended."
|
| "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft Windows
| 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers running
| Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be installed
on
| the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
| integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and
Windows
| XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the download
links.
|
| To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra Web
site
| from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this site
at
| [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras. Then,
| copy
| the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
|
| I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which is
XP
| Professional with some added goodies.
|
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your converted
file
| > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your FP
| > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder in FP
| > into your design.
| >
| > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities of
text.
| > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of
text to
| > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image, etc.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am
| > real
| > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside
Out"
| > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a
| > page
| > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for
which I
| > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember
where I
| > | found it).
| > |
| > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have
coppied
| > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and
as
| > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
| > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
| > |
| > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when
an
| > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | --
| > | Bill
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Im not sure why Jim wrote that, when I tried to research it yesterday Jim's
pages had broken links.
Dan L. gave you the answer. If you have a graphics or image editor use that
instead of Paint (paint is clumsy).


|I hate it when I have spent time writing a post, and then get "the server
is
| too busy" and I have to start all over again! Dang!
|
| Well, whatever I wrote, it's out of my head now, so I'll try again.
|
| Graphics editor? Paint? Paint is a program that I've never been able to
do
| anything with. I always thought of it as a toy that MS throws in. I can
| never get what I want with it. It's a complete waste.
|
| If it was all that simple, why would Jim Buyens waste time on a complete
| section of FrontPage (Insider Extras on the CD) explaining how to do this
at
| the server.
|
| I wish it was that simple. If it is, please explain to me how I do it.
| That's what I'm here to find out. I don't see it in FrontPage and I don't
| see in any of the image editors that I have. I appreciate you telling me
it
| can be done....I want to know how.
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > Sounds complicated.
| > Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?
| >
| > You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you can
even
| > do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!
| >
| >
| > | > | Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained
| > that
| > | in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages
to
| > show
| > | in my chosen font.
| > |
| > | I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the
server
| > | when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some
| > folder
| > | outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
| > |
| > | This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
| > |
| > | "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an
| > ASP.NET
| > | page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending
a
| > | resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
| > | representation of text.
| > | Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the
browser
| > | not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| > | predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's computer
| > might
| > | not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the text
| > will
| > | appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space)
than
| > the
| > | designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text
at
| > | larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces
different
| > | results than the designer intended."
| > |
| > | "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft
Windows
| > | 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers
running
| > | Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be
installed
| > on
| > | the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
| > | integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and
| > Windows
| > | XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the
download
| > links.
| > |
| > | To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra
Web
| > site
| > | from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this
site
| > at
| > | [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras.
Then,
| > | copy
| > | the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
| > |
| > | I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which
is
| > XP
| > | Professional with some added goodies.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Bill
| > |
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your
converted
| > file
| > | > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your
FP
| > | > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder
in FP
| > | > into your design.
| > | >
| > | > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities
of
| > text.
| > | > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of
| > text to
| > | > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image,
etc.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but
I am
| > | > real
| > | > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage
Inside
| > Out"
| > | > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design
of a
| > | > page
| > | > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for
| > which I
| > | > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember
| > where I
| > | > | found it).
| > | > |
| > | > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have
| > coppied
| > | > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page,
and
| > as
| > | > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll
insert my
| > | > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
| > | > |
| > | > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get
when
| > an
| > | > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | > | --
| > | > | Bill
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Ronx

The text2gif.aspx can be used to create gif images of text on the fly -
useful when the text is created by code, such as today's date, rather
than fixed.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp



Im not sure why Jim wrote that, when I tried to research it yesterday Jim's
pages had broken links.
Dan L. gave you the answer. If you have a graphics or image editor use that
instead of Paint (paint is clumsy).


|I hate it when I have spent time writing a post, and then get "the server
is
| too busy" and I have to start all over again! Dang!
|
| Well, whatever I wrote, it's out of my head now, so I'll try again.
|
| Graphics editor? Paint? Paint is a program that I've never been able to
do
| anything with. I always thought of it as a toy that MS throws in. I can
| never get what I want with it. It's a complete waste.
|
| If it was all that simple, why would Jim Buyens waste time on a complete
| section of FrontPage (Insider Extras on the CD) explaining how to do this
at
| the server.
|
| I wish it was that simple. If it is, please explain to me how I do it.
| That's what I'm here to find out. I don't see it in FrontPage and I don't
| see in any of the image editors that I have. I appreciate you telling me
it
| can be done....I want to know how.
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > Sounds complicated.
| > Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?
| >
| > You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you can
even
| > do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!
| >
| >
| > | > | Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained
| > that
| > | in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages
to
| > show
| > | in my chosen font.
| > |
| > | I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the
server
| > | when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some
| > folder
| > | outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
| > |
| > | This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
| > |
| > | "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an
| > ASP.NET
| > | page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending
a
| > | resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
| > | representation of text.
| > | Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the
browser
| > | not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| > | predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's computer
| > might
| > | not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the text
| > will
| > | appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space)
than
| > the
| > | designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text
at
| > | larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces
different
| > | results than the designer intended."
| > |
| > | "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft
Windows
| > | 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers
running
| > | Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be
installed
| > on
| > | the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
| > | integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and
| > Windows
| > | XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the
download
| > links.
| > |
| > | To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra
Web
| > site
| > | from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this
site
| > at
| > | [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras.
Then,
| > | copy
| > | the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
| > |
| > | I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which
is
| > XP
| > | Professional with some added goodies.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Bill
| > |
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your
converted
| > file
| > | > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your
FP
| > | > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder
in FP
| > | > into your design.
| > | >
| > | > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities
of
| > text.
| > | > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of
| > text to
| > | > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image,
etc.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but
I am
| > | > real
| > | > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage
Inside
| > Out"
| > | > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design
of a
| > | > page
| > | > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for
| > which I
| > | > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember
| > where I
| > | > | found it).
| > | > |
| > | > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have
| > coppied
| > | > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page,
and
| > as
| > | > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll
insert my
| > | > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
| > | > |
| > | > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get
when
| > an
| > | > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | > | --
| > | > | Bill
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

ot; where is Jim anyway?



| The text2gif.aspx can be used to create gif images of text on the fly -
| useful when the text is created by code, such as today's date, rather
| than fixed.
| --
| Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
|
|
|
| message |
| > Im not sure why Jim wrote that, when I tried to research it yesterday
Jim's
| > pages had broken links.
| > Dan L. gave you the answer. If you have a graphics or image editor use
that
| > instead of Paint (paint is clumsy).
| >
| >
| > | > |I hate it when I have spent time writing a post, and then get "the
server
| > is
| > | too busy" and I have to start all over again! Dang!
| > |
| > | Well, whatever I wrote, it's out of my head now, so I'll try again.
| > |
| > | Graphics editor? Paint? Paint is a program that I've never been able
to
| > do
| > | anything with. I always thought of it as a toy that MS throws in. I
can
| > | never get what I want with it. It's a complete waste.
| > |
| > | If it was all that simple, why would Jim Buyens waste time on a
complete
| > | section of FrontPage (Insider Extras on the CD) explaining how to do
this
| > at
| > | the server.
| > |
| > | I wish it was that simple. If it is, please explain to me how I do
it.
| > | That's what I'm here to find out. I don't see it in FrontPage and I
don't
| > | see in any of the image editors that I have. I appreciate you telling
me
| > it
| > | can be done....I want to know how.
| > | --
| > | Bill
| > |
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Sounds complicated.
| > | > Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?
| > | >
| > | > You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you
can
| > even
| > | > do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim
explained
| > | > that
| > | > | in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web
pages
| > to
| > | > show
| > | > | in my chosen font.
| > | > |
| > | > | I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the
| > server
| > | > | when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to
some
| > | > folder
| > | > | outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
| > | > |
| > | > | This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
| > | > |
| > | > | "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is
an
| > | > ASP.NET
| > | > | page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than
sending
| > a
| > | > | resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a
pictorial
| > | > | representation of text.
| > | > | Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the
| > browser
| > | > | not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| > | > | predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's
computer
| > | > might
| > | > | not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the
text
| > | > will
| > | > | appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of
space)
| > than
| > | > the
| > | > | designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display
text
| > at
| > | > | larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces
| > different
| > | > | results than the designer intended."
| > | > |
| > | > | "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft
| > Windows
| > | > | 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers
| > running
| > | > | Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be
| > installed
| > | > on
| > | > | the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is
an
| > | > | integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000
and
| > | > Windows
| > | > | XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the
| > download
| > | > links.
| > | > |
| > | > | To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider
Extra
| > Web
| > | > site
| > | > | from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs
this
| > site
| > | > at
| > | > | [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside
Out\fp11extras.
| > Then,
| > | > | copy
| > | > | the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
| > | > |
| > | > | I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition,
which
| > is
| > | > XP
| > | > | Professional with some added goodies.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Bill
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your
| > converted
| > | > file
| > | > | > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into
your
| > FP
| > | > | > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that
folder
| > in FP
| > | > | > into your design.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast
quantities
| > of
| > | > text.
| > | > | > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a
lot of
| > | > text to
| > | > | > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an
image,
| > etc.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn),
but
| > I am
| > | > | > real
| > | > | > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage
| > Inside
| > | > Out"
| > | > | > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the
design
| > of a
| > | > | > page
| > | > | > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name
for
| > | > which I
| > | > | > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't
remember
| > | > where I
| > | > | > | found it).
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I
have
| > | > coppied
| > | > | > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web
page,
| > and
| > | > as
| > | > | > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | > | > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll
| > insert my
| > | > | > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this
working).
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you
get
| > when
| > | > an
| > | > | > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | > | > | --
| > | > | > | Bill
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
|
 
C

Charles W Davis

For others to see it on the web, it must be in a folder on the web site, I
suggest the name of the folder be: images
 
G

Guest

This sounded reasonable, so I tried it. It works, but the resulting image
(converted text) looks really crappy. It's not a satisfactory solution.

If the text2gif program would work would it return an image just as crappy
looking?

Look, I know that these things are done on the web all the time, and Jim
Buyens seemed to confirm that this is done. Why can't I make it work?

That is the answer I'm seeking; not a workaround that doesn't produce a
satisfactory result.

Someone on here must be able to answer the question about the program and
how to make it run.
--
Bill


Dan L said:
Type the text you want into Word or FrontPage or something, then hit Alt -
Print Scrn. Open Paint and paste it. Use the "Select" tool (top right
dotted square) to select the text you want, copy it and open another instance
of Paint and paste it there. Use "Save as..." to save as a gif and you're
done. Remember to import that gif image into a FrontPage folder before you
use it on a FrontPage page.

Bill O said:
I hate it when I have spent time writing a post, and then get "the server is
too busy" and I have to start all over again! Dang!

Well, whatever I wrote, it's out of my head now, so I'll try again.

Graphics editor? Paint? Paint is a program that I've never been able to do
anything with. I always thought of it as a toy that MS throws in. I can
never get what I want with it. It's a complete waste.

If it was all that simple, why would Jim Buyens waste time on a complete
section of FrontPage (Insider Extras on the CD) explaining how to do this at
the server.

I wish it was that simple. If it is, please explain to me how I do it.
That's what I'm here to find out. I don't see it in FrontPage and I don't
see in any of the image editors that I have. I appreciate you telling me it
can be done....I want to know how.
--
Bill


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
Sounds complicated.
Why not just make a graphic banner and be done with it?

You can do this with an image editor or graphics editor...why...you can even
do it with FrontPage and Paint if you had to!


| Yes, I understand about not convering a lot of text, and Jim explained
that
| in the book. I only want my company name at the top of my web pages to
show
| in my chosen font.
|
| I got the impression from the book that this program runs from the server
| when the page is loaded in the viewers browser. If it ouputs to some
folder
| outside of FP I have no idea where that would be.
|
| This comes from Insider Extra 4, Part 14: Insider Extras
|
| "Like the Picture Sizer in Insider Extra 3, this Insider Extra is an
ASP.NET
| page that sends pictures directly to the browser. Rather than sending a
| resized picture, however, the Text-To-GIF Converter sends a pictorial
| representation of text.
| Experienced Web designers often send small amounts of text to the browser
| not as ordinary text but as picture files. The usual reason is
| predictability. When the browser displays text, the visitor's computer
might
| not have the font that the designer specified. If it doesn't, the text
will
| appear in a different font (and take up a different amount of space) than
the
| designer intended. Also, the visitor might have chosen to display text at
| larger than or smaller than normal size. Again, this produces different
| results than the designer intended."
|
| "Like all ASP.NET pages, this Insider Extra runs only on Microsoft Windows
| 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 computers running
| Microsoft IIS. In addition, the Microsoft .NET Framework must be installed
on
| the server. If you have Windows Server 2003, the .NET Framework is an
| integral component. To obtain the .NET Framework for Windows 2000 and
Windows
| XP Professional, browse www.microsoft.com/net/, and follow the download
links.
|
| To install the Text-To-GIF Converter, first install the Insider Extra Web
site
| from the companion CD. The Sample Files setup program installs this site
at
| [My Documents]\Microsoft Press\FrontPage 2003 Inside Out\fp11extras. Then,
| copy
| the text2gif/text2gif.aspx file into your Web site."
|
| I have done that. I'm running Windows XP Media Center Edition, which is
XP
| Professional with some added goodies.
|
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I've not used text2gif, but I assume it's gonna output your converted
file
| > to a folder somewhere outside of FP. Import that .gif file into your FP
| > web's image folder... File | Import then place it from that folder in FP
| > into your design.
| >
| > That being said; you would not want to do this for vast quantities of
text.
| > You'd use it for headings or callouts maybe, but to convert a lot of
text to
| > ..gif is not good...search engines cannot index text in an image, etc.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | I'm not new to FrontPage (though I still have tons to learn), but I am
| > real
| > | new at scripting, especially to server. I read in "FrontPage Inside
Out"
| > | (Jim Buyens) about converting text to .gif to preserve the design of a
| > page
| > | on the viewers browser, which I need to do for my company name for
which I
| > | chose the font, Reservoir Grunge (not common, and I don't remember
where I
| > | found it).
| > |
| > | I have not been able to make this program work, even though I have
coppied
| > | the folder (text2gif) from the sample web page into my web page, and
as
| > | nearly as I can tell, my script is correct, <img
| > | src="text2gif.aspx?text=Hello"> (this is from the book; I'll insert my
| > | company name and font, font color etc. when I get this working).
| > |
| > | All this returns so far is a box with a red "X", the one you get when
an
| > | image doesn't download. How do I get this to work?
| > | --
| > | Bill
| >
| >
| >
 
P

P@tty Ayers

Look, I know that these things are done on the web all the time, and Jim
Buyens seemed to confirm that this is done. Why can't I make it work?

That is the answer I'm seeking; not a workaround that doesn't produce a
satisfactory result.

Bill O, what you're trying to do is literally the most basic thing that can
be done on a web site, other than typing in text. You don't need whatever it
is Jim Buyens wrote about; as Ronx pointed out, it's not intended for making
simple graphics, but for creating GIFs on the fly. Using this "text2GIF" is
completely unnecessary and far more complicated than what you need to do.

All you need to do is using a graphics program to create a GIF, then import
the GIF into FrontPage and insert it into your page. If you don't have one,
or don't know how to use a graphics program, that's your next step. You
won't be able to get out of the starting gate with maintaining a web page
unless you learn this most basic skill.
 
G

Guest

I appreciate your comment Patty, but I'm not exactly a newbie, and I have
been running my own website for well over a year, and I think it looks pretty
darn good. I didn't know squat when I started. My website is at
http://www.kinsmantile.com

The instruction that Jim Buyens put in the book, he said, was for exactly
the reason that I'm trying to do it! (I think I quoted that part of the book
in an earlier post.)

What graphic program do I need (please suggest one) to do what your are
suggesting? It sounds simple, but when I tried it with Paint (which I think
is a lousy worthless program to use for anything) as someone suggested, I got
a very, and I do mean VERY, crappy image. Check my page. I want my company
name to look as good in my chosen font as it does now in whatever font it is
displaying in on YOUR browser (probably Times New Roman) I want the
Reservoir Grunge, or Boulder, which I used to use till it became unavailable.

So far, the answeres her have been less than helpfull, unless I can make
that .gif image from a graphics (tell me the name of a program) program look
good. So far (using Paint) it just doesn't. Obviously Paint aint gonna cut
it!
 
G

Guest

Just checked out your website, Patty, and I can see that you are probably WAY
more advanced than I, and no doubt have no patience for rank amatures, but
please have some empathy; I'm sure you weren't born with all this knowledge,
but had to start somewhere too! I admit I bristled a bit at the tone of your
post, and I'm still calming myself down.

I want to learn this, and I want to learn it well, and to do it right. I
wouldn't have spent the money for the book "FrontPage 2003 Inside Out" if I
didn't intend to dig in and learn. I'm now in a phase where I desire to get
in deeper, and I wanted to "fix" this one little anoying thing about my web
page, that my company name will not display in my chosen font. I knew that
would be so, but I figured I'd fix it some day when I learned more. The time
has come.

Further, I have my wifes website to set up (Faye Malone Designs). She makes
custom childrens clothes and sells them on the net (eBay) and is doing quite
well. So, we thought it time to create a web site for her.

Lastly, one of my contractor friends in the construction industry has
expressed a desire for a website and is interested in having me set it up (he
has seen my site, and likes it). So....I may be getting into the beginnings
of another business, which is great, because I don't like setting tile in the
middle of winter!
 
B

Bob Lehmann

What graphic program do I need (please suggest one)

What program are you using for the images you have on your site now?
http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/kinsmantile/images/BackSplash/000_0009_web.jpg

Bob Lehmann

Bill O said:
I appreciate your comment Patty, but I'm not exactly a newbie, and I have
been running my own website for well over a year, and I think it looks pretty
darn good. I didn't know squat when I started. My website is at
http://www.kinsmantile.com

The instruction that Jim Buyens put in the book, he said, was for exactly
the reason that I'm trying to do it! (I think I quoted that part of the book
in an earlier post.)

What graphic program do I need (please suggest one) to do what your are
suggesting? It sounds simple, but when I tried it with Paint (which I think
is a lousy worthless program to use for anything) as someone suggested, I got
a very, and I do mean VERY, crappy image. Check my page. I want my company
name to look as good in my chosen font as it does now in whatever font it is
displaying in on YOUR browser (probably Times New Roman) I want the
Reservoir Grunge, or Boulder, which I used to use till it became unavailable.

So far, the answeres her have been less than helpfull, unless I can make
that .gif image from a graphics (tell me the name of a program) program look
good. So far (using Paint) it just doesn't. Obviously Paint aint gonna cut
it!
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Image Editors;

Photoshop (still the king - but expensive and there's a learning curve)
Photoshop Elements (very good for web+ and not expensive)
MS Digital Image Pro (good)
Ulead (can't remember the exact name of the program)
Serif PhotoPlus (the free one from freeserifsoftware.com)

There's a zillion more too.

A program you must have: IrFanview (freebie) for batch renaming, resizing,
optimizing, watermarking... and some image editing.

For vector graphics;

Adobe Illustrator ($$$ - steep learning curve)
Xara Xtreme Pro (moderate $...easy to learn)
Expression Design (only available as a CTP trial now, but it will be good
when released) - when released it looks like it will be available only in
the Expression Studio $$$)

Can't think of anymore right now..these are ones I use or have tried.






| Just checked out your website, Patty, and I can see that you are probably
WAY
| more advanced than I, and no doubt have no patience for rank amatures, but
| please have some empathy; I'm sure you weren't born with all this
knowledge,
| but had to start somewhere too! I admit I bristled a bit at the tone of
your
| post, and I'm still calming myself down.
|
| I want to learn this, and I want to learn it well, and to do it right. I
| wouldn't have spent the money for the book "FrontPage 2003 Inside Out" if
I
| didn't intend to dig in and learn. I'm now in a phase where I desire to
get
| in deeper, and I wanted to "fix" this one little anoying thing about my
web
| page, that my company name will not display in my chosen font. I knew that
| would be so, but I figured I'd fix it some day when I learned more. The
time
| has come.
|
| Further, I have my wifes website to set up (Faye Malone Designs). She
makes
| custom childrens clothes and sells them on the net (eBay) and is doing
quite
| well. So, we thought it time to create a web site for her.
|
| Lastly, one of my contractor friends in the construction industry has
| expressed a desire for a website and is interested in having me set it up
(he
| has seen my site, and likes it). So....I may be getting into the
beginnings
| of another business, which is great, because I don't like setting tile in
the
| middle of winter!
| --
| Bill
|
|
| "P@tty Ayers" wrote:
|
| >
| > | >
| > > Look, I know that these things are done on the web all the time, and
Jim
| > > Buyens seemed to confirm that this is done. Why can't I make it work?
| > >
| > > That is the answer I'm seeking; not a workaround that doesn't produce
a
| > > satisfactory result.
| >
| > Bill O, what you're trying to do is literally the most basic thing that
can
| > be done on a web site, other than typing in text. You don't need
whatever it
| > is Jim Buyens wrote about; as Ronx pointed out, it's not intended for
making
| > simple graphics, but for creating GIFs on the fly. Using this "text2GIF"
is
| > completely unnecessary and far more complicated than what you need to
do.
| >
| > All you need to do is using a graphics program to create a GIF, then
import
| > the GIF into FrontPage and insert it into your page. If you don't have
one,
| > or don't know how to use a graphics program, that's your next step. You
| > won't be able to get out of the starting gate with maintaining a web
page
| > unless you learn this most basic skill.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
| > Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
| > Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
| > --
| >
| >
| >
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Have you tried contacting Jim Buyens?

Here is link to your company name in both GIF and JPG formats using the Reservoir Grunge font.

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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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