Sure you want Vista?

[Alias]

EULA maybe?

This newsgroup has an EULA?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Better kissing Microsoft than an Alien

rOy

How many aliens have you known to make this judgment?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Chris

This is an MS help group, and MS bashing in favor of Linux does no favor
to those seeking help if it turns into a political battleground, which
is the intention of the Linux trolls..

I'm not a troll and my intention is to educate people about MS and the
alternatives. There's nothing political about it.

freedom of speech does no favors

if, when executed, it only serves to confuse issues..

You are not the person to make this judgment, sorry.

if the trolls want
to air views, they should create blogs, websites et al, and do it there,
not leave OP's trying to fish for answers given amongst a bunch of
politically driven troll diatribe..

Educating people about the alternatives is not trolling, nor is it
confusing. What *is* confusing are all the controls that Vista will have
over a person's computer. I don't see you clarifying that one iota.

Re. club rules.. the MS EULA spells out the rules.. nobody is being
forced to use MS products, and if somebody does not like or agree the MS
EULA, then they are at liberty to use something else..

Only if they're informed as to what that "something else" is.

Alias, expecting Mike to unload his insults and not respond to the
content at all.

 

[ChrisM]

Ok,

I would agree with you if he was making totally untrue or unfounded claims,
or was just typing something like"Microsoft is a load of ****".

However, he is voicing (IMO - once again) legitimate concerns raised by what
seem to be legitimate articles on potential pitfalls that exist in the new
operating system. To my mind, this is not simply 'M$ Bashing'

(Please note that I am basing my opinion on this thread in particular, if
'Alias' is generally a troublemaker/troll and has a history of making untrue
or unfounded claims then please accept my apologies, however if this post is
typical, then it would seem to me to that his posts are worthy of
investigation and sensible discussion and should not be written off as
trolling.)

If there are genuine concerns about problems with Vista then surely this is
the place to discuss, and if appropriate disprove them, or show them to be
unfounded. One of the reasons that I subscribed to this group was that I had
heard about some of these issues and was concerned. Unfortunatly, none of
the posts I have read have really done anything to assuage my worries.
There seems to be the 'M$ is great and can do no wrong' contingent on one
side, and people such as 'Alias' on the other that are raising(or at least
drawing attention to) what are to my mind potentially serious issues with
Vista. The other side seem to do little more than slag the posters of these
concerns off, but do little to actually ease my mind about said issues.
I think that I would rather be made aware of these issues, so that I can
investigate them myself, and make my own decisions on how I think they could
affect me, rather than just be assured that 'everything is OK, and there is
nothing whatsoever to be worried about...'

Sorry if this post is rambling a little, but it is the end of a long working
day, and I'm tired, but hopefully I have made my point without boring or
offending too many people...

)

Chris.

 

[ChrisM]

I think his point is that in 12 months or whenever, you probably will be
able to just that, as someone somewhere will have released a patch or a
hacked version of Vista or some other piece of software that will let you do
whatever you want.

Before anyone has a go: I'm not condoning this, or saying that it is a good
thing, but I have to agree that it will most likely happen...

Chris.

In message %[email protected],

 

[Roy Coorne]

It has little validity in the UK, but even if it did, neither MS's
latest eula, nor your wayward American legislation should form the basis
for anyone's moral outlook.

That's the reason why Microsoft invented the 'activation' of Windows
and Office...

Roy

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Michael

I will leave your statement out in the open for all to see. A brilliant
example of ostentatious elucidation.

"I'll make sure I'm the first to disobey those rules, quick fast and in
hurry."

Such a fine example to set..

 

[MICHAEL]

I'm not here to set an example. I'm not trying to
be an MVP.

You said "club rules". Mike, if they're *your* rules-
you damn right, I'm going to disobey them.

You don't make the rules.

Carry on.

-Michael

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Not my rules at all.. do North Americans not do comprehension as part of
learning the language?

 

[Roscoe]

Nice try, but you are coming off as the douche bag.

 

[MICHAEL]

Your original intent was to give your imagined
"club" gravitas. As if, this forum was meant for only
you, those that agree with you and other Microsoft
lover boys. Implying, you guys made the "rules" because
this is your "club", and if you disagree, then just leave.

Your reply to Alias in which you first bring up "rules",
has absolutely nothing to do with EULA drivel.

Original use of "club rules".
<quote>
If you don't like the club rules, just make a quiet exit..
</quote>

Lame attempt at trying to backpedal your original implication
into meaning the MS EULA.
<quote>
Re. club rules.. the MS EULA spells out the rules.. nobody is being forced
to use MS products, and if somebody does not like or agree the MS EULA, then
they are at liberty to use something else..
</quote>

By the way- if you believe Alias to be such a troll, why do you
constantly feed him? Do you have no self-control?

Your role as an MVP is to help people, not to engage in back and forth
ad hominem arguments.


-Michael

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

There are no club rules in here, and you know well that I did not imply
that..but by all means have your few minutes in the limelight.. Vista
cometh..

 

[MICHAEL]

"There are no club rules in here,"

That's correct.

 

[Mike]

Read this first:

Nope, don't need to.

I already have Vista, have had it for several months and have no intention
of looking back.

Mike

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

But EULA's are like club rules.. you either accept them or leave.. your
choice..

Are you beginning to understand what 'comprehension' is yet?

 

[John E. Carty]

Nope, don't need to.

I already have Vista, have had it for several months and have no intention
of looking back.

Mike

Running Vista Ultimate RTM and loving it

 

[MICHAEL]

But EULA's are like club rules.. you either accept them or leave.. your choice..

Pitiful, simply pitiful. That is positively not what you orginally implied.
There was no mention of EULA until you tried to sloppily tie it
to "club rules".

Are you beginning to understand what 'comprehension' is yet?

I certainly comprehend how nescient your prattle has become.

-Michael

 

[Mike]

Running Vista Ultimate RTM and loving it

Yep, same here.

But it *is* fun to watch the Linux Loony FUDsters hyperventilate over it's
pending release, isn't it?

Q: How can you tell when a new Windows release is imminent?
A: Traffic on C.O.L.A. triples.

Mike

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

It was what was meant, and you didn't pick up on it until Richard mentioned
it.. c'est la guerre, eh..

 

[MICHAEL]

That's up to you. I see no need for it to escalate to that.
If need be, I'll just take you out back and whop your arse real quick.