Stop grumbling!!

[Jim]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131938-pg,1/article.html

 

[john]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131938-pg,1/article.html

from that article:

"...Responding to low-level but persistent grumbling from users about
peripheral devices that won't work with Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp.
claimed Wednesday that its new operating system now supports 1.9 million
devices -- up from 1.6 million at Vista's launch in January.
In a keynote speech at Microsoft's Windows Hardware Engineering Conference
(WinHEC) in Los Angeles, Mike Nash, corporate vice president of Windows
product management at the software vendor, blamed driver compatibility
problems with about 4,000 devices for creating roughly 80 percent of the
user complaints received thus far.

"It's a relatively small number of drivers that are driving most of the
complaints," Nash said in an interview at WinHEC on Tuesday. He declined to
identify which devices or vendors are most lacking in Vista support. "The
key thing is that we have 95 percent coverage," he said. "It's good and
getting better."

so he's saying that out of a whopping 1.9 million supported devices, there
are really only 4,000 that are causing problems for people?

1.9 million devices? they must be separately counting all the keys on
keyboards - and only 4000 are troublesome? - that's only 0.0021 percent.
iow, a success rate of 99.9979%

totally laughable numbers - just more marketing to feed the sheep.

 

[Frank]

john wrote:

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"Roger Kay, an analyst at Endpoint Technologies Associates Inc. in
Wayland, Mass., said the driver problems being experienced by Vista
users are about the same as they were for early adopters of Windows XP
-- except that now, "early adopters have a much louder megaphone in the
blogosphere to air negative perceptions."

Get it?
Frank

 

[Adam Albright]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131938-pg,1/article.html

Well duh... Taking Microsoft own figures... it claims that Vista
"supports" 1.9 million device drives, then in the next breath admits
only 9,000 have been submitted for certification testing. So that
really means there are nearly two million device drivers that are
suppose to work with Vista, and of that number only 9,000 have passed
certification. Speaking from my own experiennce Microsoft's
certification process isn't worth much. Since my Gigabyte MB claimed
it "passed" certification, yet until recently still refused to work
correctly with SATA drives.

 

[Alias]

john wrote:

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"Roger Kay, an analyst at Endpoint Technologies Associates Inc. in
Wayland, Mass., said the driver problems being experienced by Vista
users are about the same as they were for early adopters of Windows XP
-- except that now, "early adopters have a much louder megaphone in the
blogosphere to air negative perceptions."

Get it?
Frank

Yeah, being an early adopter is stupid, be it XP or Vista. Strangely,
this isn't true with Ubuntu.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Yeah, being an early adopter is stupid, be it XP or Vista. Strangely,
this isn't true with Ubuntu.

Alias

You're good at lying aren't you. One only need visit the urbuttoo ng to
see that.
Frank

 

[Alias]

You're good at lying aren't you. One only need visit the urbuttoo ng to
see that.
Frank

Those are mostly ex Windows users who are having problems. I haven't had
a single problem.

Now, go have another beer and belch for us.

Alias

 

[Alias]

You're good at lying aren't you. One only need visit the urbuttoo ng to
see that.
Frank

There's a learning curve for Ubuntu so the ex Windows users will need
help and it's being give to them. Here no one helps anyone because no
one really knows much about Vista and Vista, unlike Ubuntu, is not ready
for prime time, just like XP wasn't upon release. Not one lie, Frankie.
Maybe you should lay off the beer so you can *think*.

Alias

 

[Peter]

Indeed. Ubuntu was the only thing that has ever totally screwed up my
machine.

 

[john]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131938-pg,1/article.html
Well duh... Taking Microsoft own figures... it claims that Vista
"supports" 1.9 million device drives, then in the next breath admits
only 9,000 have been submitted for certification testing. So that
really means there are nearly two million device drivers that are
suppose to work with Vista, and of that number only 9,000 have passed
certification. Speaking from my own experiennce Microsoft's
certification process isn't worth much. Since my Gigabyte MB claimed
it "passed" certification, yet until recently still refused to work
correctly with SATA drives.

that's true.
if you do a scan of MS's HCL (http://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/Default.aspx)
and select all categories and both 32 & 64 bit - the "Certified" list only
contains about 4,850 entries, while the "Works with" list contains even
less.

even Allchin, as recently as December said Vista would only have support for
about 19,500 devices.
http://entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=7989

1.9 million? I think Mike Nash (corporate VP of Windows product management)
needs a trip to Radio Shack for a new calculator, the one he has now keeps
adding 2 extra zeros. big difference between 19,000 and 1,900,000.
- must be a marketing dept. calculator, the same one Bill G. uses to
determine sales figures.

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both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think
our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what
full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how
important current applications are, and really understanding what the most
important problems our customers face are"
- Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft.
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[john]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131938-pg,1/article.html

I'll stop grumbling if Microsoft stops lying...
howzat sound?

 

[Alias]

Indeed. Ubuntu was the only thing that has ever totally screwed up my
machine.

How did it "totally screw up" your machine? I mean, the worst ANY OS can
do is make you wipe the hard drive and start over with the machine
TOTALLY intact. Did you seek out help in the Ubuntu forums?

Alias

 

[Gary]

"Vista, unlike UurButtToo is not ready for prime time" Ha HA HA!!!
You crack me up.

"Here no one helps anyone because no one really knows much about Vista and
Vista, unlike Ubuntu, is not ready for prime time, just like XP wasn't upon
release."

Alias

 

[Frank]

There's a learning curve for Ubuntu so the ex Windows users will need
help and it's being give to them. Here no one helps anyone because no
one really knows much about Vista and Vista, unlike Ubuntu, is not ready
for prime time, just like XP wasn't upon release. Not one lie, Frankie.
Maybe you should lay off the beer so you can *think*.

Alias

OMG, you're one confused fugitive!
Frank

 

[Bill]

There's a learning curve for Ubuntu so the ex Windows users will need
help and it's being give to them. Here no one helps anyone because no
one really knows much about Vista and Vista, unlike Ubuntu, is not ready
for prime time, just like XP wasn't upon release. Not one lie, Frankie.
Maybe you should lay off the beer so you can *think*.

Alias

Alias, I have tried Ubuntu, but I like PCLINUXOS better. It was very
easy to run Windows XP on a virtual machine within Linux. I also tried
Vista, and I was not impressed. I would not install an operating system
on my computer that required reactivation every time that I updated the
Sata drivers. Those reactivation people are nice, but you can barely
understand what they are saying and I feel badly that they are probably
making very little money and are living in a hovel somewhere. Their
children probably qualify for the OLPC program. Can you imagine running
Vista on an OLPC? Always insist on a live operator and help these poor
people make a living. They are probably only getting a cup of rice and a
couple of beans anyways. Maybe your call will make the difference and
brighten their day. Update your drivers and call a live operator to
reactivate your copy of Vista. Do it all the time and help them keep
their job. Remember, you can never reactivate Vista enough times...Help
the poor.

Bill

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Well now, if you don't like the abuse, don't advertise for it!

Signed - A grown ADULT (Maybe not a mature adult, but a grown adult)

 

[Alias]

"Vista, unlike UurButtToo is not ready for prime time" Ha HA HA!!!
You crack me up.

Keep laughing but remember he who laughs last, laughs best. Now, go back
to your stateroom in the MS sinking ship.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Alias, I have tried Ubuntu, but I like PCLINUXOS better.

I've heard good things about PCLINUXOS and plan to try it.


It was very

easy to run Windows XP on a virtual machine within Linux. I also tried
Vista, and I was not impressed. I would not install an operating system
on my computer that required reactivation every time that I updated the
Sata drivers. Those reactivation people are nice, but you can barely
understand what they are saying and I feel badly that they are probably
making very little money and are living in a hovel somewhere. Their
children probably qualify for the OLPC program. Can you imagine running
Vista on an OLPC? Always insist on a live operator and help these poor
people make a living. They are probably only getting a cup of rice and a
couple of beans anyways. Maybe your call will make the difference and
brighten their day. Update your drivers and call a live operator to
reactivate your copy of Vista. Do it all the time and help them keep
their job. Remember, you can never reactivate Vista enough times...Help
the poor.

Bill

Heh.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank took another swig of beer, belched, and lied:

 

[Doris Day - MFB]

Indeed. Ubuntu was the only thing that has ever totally screwed up my
machine.

Ubuntu didn't screw up your machine, YOU screwed up your machine. Because
you didn't know wtf you were doing.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

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