Questions for Those Who Use Open Office

[Klaatu]

1.1.0 was released as final some weeks ago. I've been using RC5, the
last RC before final, for some time now, no problems at all.

Did they ever get over their obsession with warning you about saving in any
other format than their own? FE, saving a text document to Word format
(.DOC), it used to always ask if you were sure you wanted to save in that
inferior format, or something like that. Is that still there?

I like OOo, but that really bugs me...

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Did they ever get over their obsession with warning you about saving
in any other format than their own? FE, saving a text document to Word
format (.DOC), it used to always ask if you were sure you wanted to
save in that inferior format, or something like that. Is that still
there?

For the record, when you *close* a file that's been saved with an
external format, you're asked: "Saving in external formats may have
caused information loss. Do you still want to close?"

That seems reasonable. And it says nothing about "inferior format" --
that would be more in the Microsoftian style.

 

[JanC]

Did they ever get over their obsession with warning you about saving
in any other format than their own? FE, saving a text document to Word
format (.DOC), it used to always ask if you were sure you wanted to
save in that inferior format, or something like that. Is that still
there?

FWIW: MS Word has a similar warning & question...

 

[JanC]

(e-mail address removed) schreef:

This program (or possibly Star Office, back when that was free) used
to be available in downloadable parts of 5 or 6 Megs each.
I wish they would go back to that system.

A good download program should be able to restart the download from the
point where the previous download stopped. That way you can download in
parts as big or as small as luck and fair weather allow you.

 

[Gary R. Schmidt]

(e-mail address removed) schreef:




A good download program should be able to restart the download from the
point where the previous download stopped. That way you can download in
parts as big or as small as luck and fair weather allow you.

This is also dependent on the server-side having the re-start capability
as well.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

 

[Bob Adkins]

Did they ever get over their obsession with warning you about saving in any
other format than their own?

That's the most annoying thing I have ever seen. I think I rather have a nag
screen asking for a donation. OOo needs to have an option to turn this
warning OFF!

Bob

 

[Gary R. Schmidt]

That's the most annoying thing I have ever seen. I think I rather have a nag
screen asking for a donation. OOo needs to have an option to turn this
warning OFF!

Bob

That's easy, pull down the source and build it for yourself, setting any
defaults that you want.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

That's the most annoying thing I have ever seen. I think I rather
have a nag screen asking for a donation. OOo needs to have an
option to turn this warning OFF!

Bob

I don't have M$ Office, but doesn't it do exactly the same sort of
thing if you tell it to "Save As" some other format? Oh, and BTW, OOo
_does_ have the option to save in M$ Office format by default. Have
you8 tried that setting before whinging in here?

 

[Bob Adkins]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:34:01 +1300, Max Quordlepleen

BTW, OOo
_does_ have the option to save in M$ Office format by default. Have
you8 tried that setting before whinging in here?

Mmmm...seems that "Tools, Options, Load/Save, Text Documents, Always Save
in MS Word XXX" kills the nag. So far, at least.

I would say "thank you", but you unnecessarily used the word "whining".

Bob

 

[Klaatu]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:34:01 +1300, Max Quordlepleen


Mmmm...seems that "Tools, Options, Load/Save, Text Documents, Always
Save in MS Word XXX" kills the nag. So far, at least.

Well, thank you Bob. Finally someone saw fit to answer the question posed
at the start of this subthread.

I would say "thank you", but you unnecessarily used the word
"whining".

I seem to remember Max being a pleasant enough fellow. Perhaps a bad day?

I certainly didn't want to DL OOo again if there wasn't some way to avoid
this very annoying dialog box. Although it's not a perfect solution (I
don't want to always save in Word format), it'll do.

Thanks again.

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

I would say "thank you", but you unnecessarily used the word
"whining".

Actually, I used the word whinging, and I did so because the last
sentence of your post was whinging in tone, insisting that OOo needed
to have an option that, had you looked, you would have discovered. And,
of course, there was the unfairness implicit in your post, and the
OP's, in not acknowledging that M$ Office behaves the same way if you
try to save in a format not its own. Does M$ Office even have the
option of choosing a default "Save As" format not its own?

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Well, thank you Bob. Finally someone saw fit to answer the question posed
at the start of this subthread.

Interesting. I have OO set to always save as an OO WP document, and I
don't get any nag if I save as MSWord. Similarly, I have it set to
always save a spreadsheet as as an OO SS document, and I don't get the
nag there, either. Granted, I'm using 1.0.2, but that seems a fiddly
nag for them to have added.

I seem to remember Max being a pleasant enough fellow. Perhaps a bad day?

Actually, he didn't say "whining", if that makes any difference.

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

Actually, he didn't say "whining", if that makes any difference.

Yeahbut, the word "whinging" is pretty uniquely Antipodean. Not many
who are unfamiliar with either Strine or Zild would ever have heard of
the word.

 

[Klaatu]

Interesting. I have OO set to always save as an OO WP document, and I
don't get any nag if I save as MSWord. Similarly, I have it set to
always save a spreadsheet as as an OO SS document, and I don't get the
nag there, either. Granted, I'm using 1.0.2, but that seems a fiddly
nag for them to have added.

Hmmm...Puzzling. I distinctly remember in 1.0 (or thereabouts) a nag
coming up everytime I tried to save in MSWord format, and not seeing any
way to turn it off. But with 1.1 it does not (just tried it), and from
what you say neither does 1.0.2. Maybe they removed it between 1.0 and
1.0.2. Who knows. Anyway, Thanks BtS.

Actually, he didn't say "whining", if that makes any difference.

No, it does not. HAND

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Yeahbut, the word "whinging" is pretty uniquely Antipodean. Not many
who are unfamiliar with either Strine or Zild would ever have heard of
the word.

Maybe in the unconnected world it is, but not in this one.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Hmmm...Puzzling. I distinctly remember in 1.0 (or thereabouts) a nag
coming up everytime I tried to save in MSWord format, and not seeing any
way to turn it off. But with 1.1 it does not (just tried it), and from
what you say neither does 1.0.2. Maybe they removed it between 1.0 and
1.0.2. Who knows. Anyway, Thanks BtS.

I see it when *quitting* OO, if I've got something open that *has
already been* saved in a MS format. But that's not what anyone else has
described -- everyone else has specifically mentioned getting it at *saving*.

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

I see it when *quitting* OO, if I've got something open that *has
already been* saved in a MS format. But that's not what anyone
else has described -- everyone else has specifically mentioned
getting it at *saving*.

Blinky, do you have access to M$ Orifice? I'm curious to know whether
my presumption that the behaviour so vigorously decried by some in OOo
is, in fact, pretty much identical in Orifice. If so, the passion and
vehemence of the protests about OOo's behaviour is rather smile-worthy,
imo.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Blinky, do you have access to M$ Orifice? I'm curious to know whether
my presumption that the behaviour so vigorously decried by some in OOo
is, in fact, pretty much identical in Orifice. If so, the passion and
vehemence of the protests about OOo's behaviour is rather
smile-worthy, imo.

I do, but nothing recent, so I didn't report. As for what it saves,
your choices are MS stuff, text, RTF or WPx. That said, if I save to
WP, it pops up a warning of the type mentioned, suggesting that you save
as Something MS first, then save to your choice. That said, though,
I'll reiterate that I don't get that in OO on a *save* -- only on a program
close that would close a document that had been saved as non OO.

 

[JanC]

This is also dependent on the server-side having the re-start capability
as well.

True, but OOo is available from several FTP sites, and FTP (almost) always
allows this (FTP servers _should_ support this, HTTP servers _may_
support this).

 

[JanC]

I do, but nothing recent, so I didn't report. As for what it saves,
your choices are MS stuff, text, RTF or WPx. That said, if I save to
WP, it pops up a warning of the type mentioned, suggesting that you save
as Something MS first, then save to your choice.

I don't know how "recent" your copy is, but at least MSW2K does it too.