Questions for Those Who Use Open Office

[benalias]

Open Office is difficult for me to download, since I have a dial-up
connection, but I am thinking of using it on a computer that a small,
non-profit group I belong to has just acquired.

What I am wondering is: For those of you that use it or have used it,
when a new version comes out, how do you install the new version with
respect to the old version? Just install the new version over the old
version? Or do an uninstall of the old version first? Does Open
Office come with an uninstall utility? If so, how good is it?

Or would you recommend some sort of external uninstall or "cleaner"
utilities? If so, which ones?

TIA for any info you can provide.

C'ya.

Ben

 

[Onno Tasler]

Open Office is difficult for me to download, since I have a dial-up
connection, but I am thinking of using it on a computer that a small,
non-profit group I belong to has just acquired.

In this case I would use the stable 1.0.3.1 release and not upgrade
before the 1.1 is released as final. (Except you urgently need some
features of version 1.1)

What I am wondering is: For those of you that use it or have used it,
when a new version comes out, how do you install the new version with
respect to the old version?

I uninstalled the old version, letting the user data an such in space,
and installed the new version in the directory the old one was in. That
worked well for me. It is also possible to install the new over the old
version, but that makes an uninstallation or repair difficulty.

bye,

Onno

 

[Darrien]

In this case I would use the stable 1.0.3.1 release and not upgrade
before the 1.1 is released as final.

What time zone are you in?
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/10/01/HNopenofficerelease_1.html

 

[Blinky the Shark]

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In this case I would use the stable 1.0.3.1 release and not upgrade
before the 1.1 is released as final. (Except you urgently need some
features of version 1.1)

Released on October 1, wasn't it?

http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/10/01/HNopenofficerelease_1.html

 

[Onno Tasler]

What time zone are you in?

Technically: MET
According to software somewhere behind Saturn, it seems

But, I expect that there still will be some patches before the final
final, as there were in 1.0.

bye,

Onno

 

[task two]

You really should visit their site and read some of the faqs, etc. Perhaps
download the info and read off-line. Getting others here to do this for you
doesn't help you as we all have different opinions...mine you don't want to
hear. Nonetheless, I believe with the release of 1.1, all further versions
will provide the ability to download the fixes, upgrades, whatever without
requiring a complete download again and again which is beneficial for those
on dialup. This info is somewhere on the site too but I wont go looking as I
have dumped the program.

Stoney

 

[Arnie]

I simply downloaded 1.1 from openoffice.org.
Didn't see anything about non-stable.
And it's working OK too, so I don't see the problem.

Well, the PDF exporting function made a PDF that crashed Acrobat Reader.
But I don't use that function anyway.

 

[omega]

I simply downloaded 1.1 from openoffice.org.
Didn't see anything about non-stable.
And it's working OK too, so I don't see the problem.

Well, the PDF exporting function made a PDF that crashed Acrobat Reader.
But I don't use that function anyway.

Arnie, before you get a flamier version of this advice, you should
config your reader to quote a bit of what you're replying to.

User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25

Don't know the howto of it.
But pls trust me on the shouldto of it.


Amicably,

 

[Bob Adkins]

Technically: MET
According to software news: somewhere behind Saturn, it seems

Damn, you stole my line.

Bob

 

[benalias]

You really should visit their site and read some of the faqs, etc. Perhaps
download the info and read off-line. Getting others here to do this for you
doesn't help you ...

http://documentation.openoffice.org/user_faq/various_topics/008.html

I have read previous discussions of Open Office in this newsgroup that
suggested that some of the claims made by Sun for its product were
either false or misleading, so I was hoping to get more candid answers
from the participants in acf.

I have had some bad experiences with other programs where the new
version had an "uninstall" feature relating to the old program, where
the "uninstall" did not work properly, and where the
not-really-uninstalled portions of the old program interfered with the
new version working properly. And no, the software company was not
candid about this and did not disclose these problems in the
documentation supplied with the program. So, no, I am not willing to
assume that a software company will be candid about such problems in
its FAQs or other documentation.

Nonetheless, I believe with the release of 1.1, all further versions
will provide the ability to download the fixes, upgrades, whatever without
requiring a complete download again and again which is beneficial for those
on dialup.

That sounds great.

This info is somewhere on the site too but I wont go looking as I
have dumped the program.

Stoney

We may dump the program too, eventually. But right now, my
organization is not in a position to pass on the posibility of a free
office suite that is (to some degree) MS Office compatible.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Thank you--and to all the people in this newsgroup who have
replied--for you input.

I have found it helpful. Since the most recent version of OO that I
downloaded was dated August 1, I will try to download the most current
version and use that. The comments in this newsgroup will probably
end up saving me a lot of time and trouble, so I thank you all again
for being helpful.

C'ya.

Ben

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Arnie, before you get a flamier version of this advice, you should
config your reader to quote a bit of what you're replying to.


Don't know the howto of it.
But pls trust me on the shouldto of it.

If text is highlighted before composing the reply, only that text will
be quoted. If no text is highlighted, the entire post (sans sig) will
be quoted (in which case some snipping should usually be done by hand).

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

But, I expect that there still will be some patches before the final
final, as there were in 1.0.

1.1.0 was released as final some weeks ago. I've been using RC5, the
last RC before final, for some time now, no problems at all.

 

[Chakolate]

(e-mail address removed) wrote in

I have found it helpful. Since the most recent version of OO that I
downloaded was dated August 1, I will try to download the most current
version and use that. The comments in this newsgroup will probably
end up saving me a lot of time and trouble, so I thank you all again
for being helpful.

I have dial-up, too, so I had a friend with a DSL connection and a CD
burner make a CD for me. Can you set that up? If you want, I could
probably burn a copy for you and send it. You can e-mail me at

chakolate at hotmail dot com

Chakolate

--

On sadness:
The cure for this ill is not to sit still,
Or to frowst with a book by the fire,
But to take a large hoe and a shovel also,
And to dig till you gently perspire.
--Rudyard Kipling

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

1.1.0 was released as final some weeks ago. I've been using RC5, the
last RC before final, for some time now, no problems at all.

As I understand it, 1.1.0 is identical to RC5; a release candidate
became the release, kinda like it should be.

 

[Max Quordlepleen]

As I understand it, 1.1.0 is identical to RC5; a release
candidate became the release, kinda like it should be.

Actually, I have a rather special RC5. Apparently, very soon after RC5
was released, they released a new version of RC5, with a modified
splash screen, one that incorporated the Sun logo, in recognition of
Sun's support for OOo. I am one of very few running the "sunless" RC5.

 

[benalias]

I have dial-up, too, so I had a friend with a DSL connection and a CD
burner make a CD for me. Can you set that up? If you want, I could
probably burn a copy for you and send it. You can e-mail me at

chakolate at hotmail dot com

Chakolate

Thanks for the offer, but I was able to just download the thing via my
dial-up connection over about 5 hours. I attribute this to a good
deal of luck and fair weather.

This program (or possibly Star Office, back when that was free) used
to be available in downloadable parts of 5 or 6 Megs each.
I wish they would go back to that system.

But if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

C'ya.

Ben

 

[Arnie]

Hi,
Thanks for the advice.

@Quote(a flamier version..)
To be honest, that doesn't work with me, it only makes me upset.
But a kind request will do.
Just that you know (I think -hope- it works like that for most people).

@Quote(config your reader to quote a bit of what you're replying to)
XNews quotes automatically, I just didn't think it was necessary.
It uses simply ">", but I like it the way I do now.
I used to be a frequent phpBB user, and this reminds me (a bit) of it.

On some (perhaps lots of) phpBB boards they are strict about quoting.
People quote the message posted before them which is not necessary.
That pollutes the db so I got used to not quoting, I guess.

 

[Chakolate]

(e-mail address removed) wrote in

But if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

And if wishes were Cadillacs, beggars would ride in style.

Chakolate

--

On sadness:
The cure for this ill is not to sit still,
Or to frowst with a book by the fire,
But to take a large hoe and a shovel also,
And to dig till you gently perspire.
--Rudyard Kipling

 

[Chakolate]

On some (perhaps lots of) phpBB boards they are strict about quoting.
People quote the message posted before them which is not necessary.
That pollutes the db so I got used to not quoting, I guess.

You don't have to quote the whole thing, just a piece (as I just did) to
remind people exactly what it is that you're responding to.

Chakolate

--

On sadness:
The cure for this ill is not to sit still,
Or to frowst with a book by the fire,
But to take a large hoe and a shovel also,
And to dig till you gently perspire.
--Rudyard Kipling

 

[Blinky the Shark]

@Quote(config your reader to quote a bit of what you're replying to)
XNews quotes automatically, I just didn't think it was necessary.
It uses simply ">", but I like it the way I do now.

Which ****s up everyone else's new client. Expect to be plonked by a
lot of people, if you continue ****ing up the way things work. If there
were no conventions, there'd be no Internet; they're in place for good
reason. Learn somehting about Usenet; stop pretending this is "phpBBS",
and, generally, wake up to your surroundings.