Printer on or off

R

Rod

I'm sure this has been covered many times but I
was wondering if leaving the printer on all of the
time is better for clogs. There is nothing worse
than a clogged head that you can't clear. It seems
like my i960 is clogging and it is harder and
harder to clear.
 
M

measekite

Rod said:
I'm sure this has been covered many times but I was wondering if
leaving the printer on all of the time is better for clogs. There is
nothing worse than a clogged head that you can't clear. It seems like
my i960 is clogging and it is harder and harder to clear.

The best way is to use OEM ink and never turn off the printer.
 
A

Arthur Entlich

This is one of those subjects that gets periodically discussed and to
which there are many opinions. It depends upon the ink formulation, the
printer head and cleaning design, the climate you live in, and even the
printer model and the specific printer, as tolerances in manufacturing
differ. In general, you have to test and see. Warmer and dryer
climates, and equipment that gives off a lot of heat usually biases
towards shutting down between use (depending, however, on how much time
we are talking about).

Art
 
J

Jan Alter

Arthur Entlich said:
This is one of those subjects that gets periodically discussed and to
which there are many opinions. It depends upon the ink formulation, the
printer head and cleaning design, the climate you live in, and even the
printer model and the specific printer, as tolerances in manufacturing
differ. In general, you have to test and see. Warmer and dryer climates,
and equipment that gives off a lot of heat usually biases towards shutting
down between use (depending, however, on how much time we are talking
about).

Art


I wouldn't argue any of the points Art is making; not that I would want to
in the first place. He is usually right. Additionally I believe the clogging
would have a greater tendency with older ink that is reaching the point of
expiration from the manufacturer, as it tends to thicken due to oxidation.
 
T

Taliesyn

Jan said:
I wouldn't argue any of the points Art is making; not that I would want to
in the first place. He is usually right.

Agreed. As for the printer on/printer off question, I never argue the
point with anyone because they're free to burn out their equipment if
they want to ;-). I always turn mine off when not in immediate use -
like all my electrical appliances, computer & peripherals (unless they
have a little red light standby mode).

-Taliesyn
 
M

measekite

Taliesyn said:
Agreed. As for the printer on/printer off question, I never argue the
point with anyone because they're free to burn out their equipment if
they want to ;-).

You do not know what you are talking about. My HP has never been turned
off in 7 or 8 years and my Canon has never been turned off in 4 years.
I use OEM ink and a variety of papers. Sometimes I do not use my
printers for a week or two. I have never had a problem with each.
I always turn mine off when not in immediate use -
like all my electrical appliances, computer & peripherals (unless they
have a little red light standby mode).

I never turn my computers off. NEVER
 
O

overload

Most of the Canons have a little vacuum pump below the wiper blade to
pull ink through during a cleaning cycle. The wiper blade gets worn
and the vacuum pump fails. Getting harder and harder often indicates
more of a problem with the wiper or the pump, rather than with the
ink.

Jim
 
F

Frank

Most of the Canons have a little vacuum pump below the wiper blade to
pull ink through during a cleaning cycle. The wiper blade gets worn
and the vacuum pump fails. Getting harder and harder often indicates
more of a problem with the wiper or the pump, rather than with the
ink.

Jim


Yeah, purge units do fail!
Frank
 
T

theory4debate

I'm sure this has been covered many times but I
was wondering if leaving the printer on all of the
time is better for clogs. There is nothing worse
than a clogged head that you can't clear. It seems
like my i960 is clogging and it is harder and
harder to clear.

If you are using aftermarket ink, I'm guessing that your supplier is
giving you pigmented ink instead of the dye based ink that is suppose
to be used on that printer. Pigmented ink will clog a print head that
is suppose to be using dye based.

Stan
 
T

theory4debate

Turn off that printer and save the environment. If the printer was
made to be "on" all the time, they won't have made a power switch.

Stan
 
M

measekite

[email protected] wrote:

On Jul 15, 8:24 pm, Rod <[email protected]> wrote:



I'm sure this has been covered many times but I was wondering if leaving the printer on all of the time is better for clogs. There is nothing worse than a clogged head that you can't clear. It seems like my i960 is clogging and it is harder and harder to clear.



If you are using aftermarket ink, I'm guessing that your supplier is giving you pigmented ink instead of the dye based ink that is suppose to be used on that printer. Pigmented ink will clog a print head that is suppose to be using dye based. Stan


The problem is that the relabeler does not properly disclose what they are selling.  All they know is the meaningless word compatible.
 
T

theory4debate

I'm sure this has been covered many times but I
was wondering if leaving the printer on all of the
time is better for clogs. There is nothing worse
than a clogged head that you can't clear. It seems
like my i960 is clogging and it is harder and
harder to clear.

If you are using aftermarket ink, I'm guessing that your supplier is
giving you pigmented ink instead of the dye based ink that is suppose
to be used on that printer. Pigmented ink will clog a print head
that
is suppose to be using dye based.

Stan

PS. Turn off that printer and save the environment. If the printer
was
made to be "on" all the time, they won't have made a power switch.
 
M

measekite

The printer, as all computer equipment, should be on all of the time.
There is less waste and they do go to sleep.
 
M

measekite

[email protected] wrote:

On Jul 15, 8:24 pm, Rod <[email protected]> wrote:



I'm sure this has been covered many times but I was wondering if leaving the printer on all of the time is better for clogs. There is nothing worse than a clogged head that you can't clear. It seems like my i960 is clogging and it is harder and harder to clear.



If you are using aftermarket ink, I'm guessing that your supplier is giving you pigmented ink instead of the dye based ink that is suppose to be used on that printer. Pigmented ink will clog a print head that is suppose to be using dye based. Stan PS. Turn off that printer and save the environment. If the printer was made to be "on" all the time, they won't have made a power switch.


That information is incorrect.  My HP printer has been turned on for 7 years.  And my Canon printer has been turned on for over 4 years.  Both use only OEM ink.  I NEVER have had a printer problem with either printer.
 
F

Frank

measekite said:
That information is incorrect. My HP printer has been turned on for 7
years. And my Canon printer has been turned on for over 4 years. Both
use only OEM ink. I NEVER have had a printer problem with either printer.

Well, first of all, you're once again talking to yourself.
Secondly, in order to even know if your printers are working properly,
you need to actually print something.
So STFU and try printing something, ok?
Frank
 
I

Irwin Peckinloomer

You do not know what you are talking about. My HP has never been turned
off in 7 or 8 years and my Canon has never been turned off in 4 years.
I use OEM ink and a variety of papers. Sometimes I do not use my
printers for a week or two. I have never had a problem with each.

On the other hand, I use nothing but aftermarket ink refills (Sensient),
always turn my i960 off when not in use, and after nearly 4 years, have
no clogs or need to run cleaning cycles. It probably doesn't matter if
you leave it on, since it goes into standby mode after a few minutes
anyway, but I just habitually turn mine off.
 
A

Arthur Entlich

From a purely environmental aspect, and probably in terms of equipment
longevity, this is usually a good approach, after all, electronics do
have a lifespan. Older equipment used to be less clearcut, because
power supplies and surge resistance wasn't as we'll designed as today,
so turning things on and off regularly took their toll as well. Today,
most equipment is built to withstand on/off cycling quite well
eliminating most issues with those related failures, so turning it off
saves no only electricity, but also component lifespan.

Some older inkjet printers also tended to do long and wasteful cleaning
cycles with each power cycle, but again, most of that is history.

Art
 
A

Arthur Entlich

In general, pigment colorant inks cost more to formulate and produce, so
I'd actually be surprised a 3rd party vendor would supply a more costly ink.

Art
 
M

measekite

Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:

You do not know what you are talking about. My HP has never been turned off in 7 or 8 years and my Canon has never been turned off in 4 years. I use OEM ink and a variety of papers. Sometimes I do not use my printers for a week or two. I have never had a problem with each.



On the other hand, I use nothing but aftermarket ink refills (Sensient), always turn my i960 off when not in use, and after nearly 4 years, have no clogs or need to run cleaning cycles. It probably doesn't matter if you leave it on, since it goes into standby mode after a few minutes anyway, but I just habitually turn mine off.


Sensinent does not make aftermarket refills under their name.  You never know what you get from a relabeler.  There is no reason to turn your system off.
 
M

measekite

Arthur said:
In general, pigment colorant inks cost more to formulate and produce,
so I'd actually be surprised a 3rd party vendor would supply a more
costly ink.

Look at Pantone ande then make your comment.
 

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