Do the print heads current Canon printers clog up?

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Synapse Syndrome

Having had some frustrations with Epson inkjets in the past, I was wondering
if the current Canon printers ever do this? I have been using lasers for a
while, but I need to get good colour prints now, and so I decided to get an
inkjet for general use.

If I use the colour printing rarely, I suppose they will get clogged up?
Would keeping the printer powered on reduce the chance of clogged print
heads? I would really like to avoid having to do that is possible.

ss.
 
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Burt

Synapse Syndrome said:
Having had some frustrations with Epson inkjets in the past, I was
wondering if the current Canon printers ever do this? I have been using
lasers for a while, but I need to get good colour prints now, and so I
decided to get an inkjet for general use.

If I use the colour printing rarely, I suppose they will get clogged up?
Would keeping the printer powered on reduce the chance of clogged print
heads? I would really like to avoid having to do that is possible.

ss.
All inkjet printers have the potential to clog if not used with some
frequency. The safest might be a printer that has the printheads
encorporated into the replaceable cartridge. If it clogs you just have to
replace the cartridge. This can be a more expensive alternative as a cart
with printhead encorporated has to be more expensive to produce. I don't
know HP printers at all, but I believe that several, if not all, have the
printhead encorporated into the ink cartridge. There is also a fairly new
Canon printer that has the printhead in the replaceable ink cartridge.

All inkjet printers have automatic cleaning cycles. As I understand it,
some do a cleaning on power up. In addition, after a certain number of
prints, and/or after the printer sits idle for a certain amount of time,
more cleaning cycles are run. I don't know if leaving the printer on will
save you cleaning cycles. In addition, since the cleaning cycles are
designed to prevent clogs, a seldom used printer needs those cleaning cycles
to keep ink from drying out in the nozzles.
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

Burt said:
All inkjet printers have the potential to clog if not used with some
frequency. The safest might be a printer that has the printheads
encorporated into the replaceable cartridge. If it clogs you just have to
replace the cartridge. This can be a more expensive alternative as a cart
with printhead encorporated has to be more expensive to produce. I don't
know HP printers at all, but I believe that several, if not all, have the
printhead encorporated into the ink cartridge. There is also a fairly new
Canon printer that has the printhead in the replaceable ink cartridge.

All inkjet printers have automatic cleaning cycles. As I understand it,
some do a cleaning on power up. In addition, after a certain number of
prints, and/or after the printer sits idle for a certain amount of time,
more cleaning cycles are run. I don't know if leaving the printer on will
save you cleaning cycles. In addition, since the cleaning cycles are
designed to prevent clogs, a seldom used printer needs those cleaning
cycles to keep ink from drying out in the nozzles.


Yeah, it was all those cleaning cycles that used lots of ink with my
previous Epsons. A lot of the time there would still be gaps in the test
pattern. I found that a tiny but of ethanol on the print head sorted it
out.

What I really would like to know is how often Canon printer owners
experience clogged heads, and how often they use their printers.

I guess it makes no difference now anyway, as I have already ordered an
iP4500.

ss.
 
M

Michael Johnson

Synapse said:
Yeah, it was all those cleaning cycles that used lots of ink with my
previous Epsons. A lot of the time there would still be gaps in the test
pattern. I found that a tiny but of ethanol on the print head sorted it
out.

What I really would like to know is how often Canon printer owners
experience clogged heads, and how often they use their printers.

I guess it makes no difference now anyway, as I have already ordered an
iP4500.

You can download software that will automatically print out a test page
at whatever time interval you choose to keep the head from drying out
from non-use. I agree through that the printers that seem to have the
least issues with clogging are those that have the head integrated into
every cartridge and those are mostly HP models.
 
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Russell E. Owen

Synapse Syndrome said:
Having had some frustrations with Epson inkjets in the past, I was wondering
if the current Canon printers ever do this? I have been using lasers for a
while, but I need to get good colour prints now, and so I decided to get an
inkjet for general use.

If I use the colour printing rarely, I suppose they will get clogged up?
Would keeping the printer powered on reduce the chance of clogged print
heads? I would really like to avoid having to do that is possible.

It's not scientific, but my MP500 has never had a clog and I only print
every few weeks. I've gone through about 3 sets of ink cartridges*

Canon printers have print heads that are very easy to replace so I
personally would not worry about it.

-- Russell

*I don't claim it's relevant, but I have been using Canon inks. It's not
economical, but Canon "got me" with their #$@# chips (I do want to know
when a cartridge runs out of ink) and partly I print occasional batches
of photos and want to be sure I get reasonable print life.
 
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Richard Steinfeld

Russell said:
It's not scientific, but my MP500 has never had a clog...

Pardon my being clairvoyantly challenged, but please explain what an
"MP500" is, and who made it. Lack of mind-reading ability is an epidemic
that's growing out-of-control; it's the need of those afflicted to know
what posters are talking about.

Pray for us.

Richard
 
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Michael Johnson

Richard said:
Pardon my being clairvoyantly challenged, but please explain what an
"MP500" is, and who made it. Lack of mind-reading ability is an epidemic
that's growing out-of-control; it's the need of those afflicted to know
what posters are talking about.

Pray for us.

Every done a Google search? It isn't hard and you could have done it in
less time than it took you to type the ignorant, insulting post your
just made. All it would take is typing "MP500" and "printer" and
hitting the Enter key. I'll pray for you alright. I'll pray you don't
get any lazier, or dumber, whichever the case may be. I am far from
clairvoyant and understood exactly what CANON printer Russell was
referencing, even without a Google search.
 
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Edward W. Thompson

Every done a Google search? It isn't hard and you could have done it in
less time than it took you to type the ignorant, insulting post your
just made. All it would take is typing "MP500" and "printer" and
hitting the Enter key. I'll pray for you alright. I'll pray you don't
get any lazier, or dumber, whichever the case may be. I am far from
clairvoyant and understood exactly what CANON printer Russell was
referencing, even without a Google search.

I am very pleased to hear that we can all post in 'code' with the safe
assumption everyone will understand what we are talking about.
 
M

Michael Johnson

Edward said:
I am very pleased to hear that we can all post in 'code' with the safe
assumption everyone will understand what we are talking about.

If someone is reading a post in a printer newsgroup titled "Do the print
heads current Canon printers clog up?" and then reads a response that
mentions MP500 and Canon in his posts it isn't a stretch to make the
connection. Then again, maybe I'm a candidate to become a member of
MENSA sense I "got it".
 
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Arthur Entlich

Wow! You are simply amazing... in fact, I think they should call you
Magic Johnson. The man with whose "little head" is clairvoyant.

It is a lot easier and more efficient for the O.P. to clarify the nature
of the model being referred to than to ask each reader to do a Google
search, and it is also no real hassle for the O.P. to include a few more
words to single out the product he/she is referring to.

Art
 
A

Arthur Entlich

The nice thing about MENSA is they don't test for personality or social
skills ;-)

Art
 
S

Synapse Syndrome

It's not scientific, but my MP500 has never had a clog and I only print
every few weeks. I've gone through about 3 sets of ink cartridges*

Thanks for telling me about your real-world experience.

*I don't claim it's relevant, but I have been using Canon inks. It's not
economical, but Canon "got me" with their #$@# chips (I do want to know
when a cartridge runs out of ink) and partly I print occasional batches
of photos and want to be sure I get reasonable print life.


I am not going to waste my time with cheap refilling inks. Whatever people
say about them, the fact is the quality is going to be variable, and with
the OEM inks, you know what you are getting. I bought ready-filled cheap
cartridges once, and made a test print, of an identical picture I printed
out on original Epson ink, and places them both in a Window. They both
faded over a whole summer, but the cheap one faded much more, and all that
was left was the blue.

ss.
 
M

Michael Johnson

Arthur said:
Wow! You are simply amazing... in fact, I think they should call you
Magic Johnson. The man with whose "little head" is clairvoyant.

Call me whatever you chose. Russell's post wasn't that cryptic. He
made it in a PRINTER newsgroup. If he had made it in alt.basket.weaving
then maybe you have a point. You mean to tell me that you didn't know
an MP500 is a Canon printer? Especially, when the thread is about Canon
printers and he mentions the Canon brand in his post. Come on, I'm not
that bright and I don't think the rest of us here are that stupid.
It is a lot easier and more efficient for the O.P. to clarify the nature
of the model being referred to than to ask each reader to do a Google
search, and it is also no real hassle for the O.P. to include a few more
words to single out the product he/she is referring to.

..... and, IMO, it is better to do a Google search than be insulting for
no legitimate reason. The simple fact is there was enough information
in Russell's post and the overall thread to ascertain the printer was a
Canon model.
 
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Michael Johnson

Synapse said:
Thanks for telling me about your real-world experience.

Well, I'm happy to see that Russell's post was useful for you. I guess
it wasn't so cryptic after all.
 
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measekite

Richard said:
Pardon my being clairvoyantly challenged, We all have issues.
but please explain what an "MP500" is, and who made it. Lack of
mind-reading ability is an epidemic that's growing out-of-control;
it's the need of those afflicted to know what posters are talking about.

Pray for us.

Richard
 
M

measekite

Michael said:
Every done a Google search? It isn't hard and you could have done it
in less time than it took you to type the ignorant, insulting post
your just made.
You did not read his post. He said "Pardon my being clairvoyantly
challenged". So what do you expect. I thought he was one of your
congregates.
 
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measekite

Synapse Syndrome wrote:

"Russell E. Owen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



It's not scientific, but my MP500 has never had a clog and I only print every few weeks. I've gone through about 3 sets of ink cartridges*



Thanks for telling me about your real-world experience.



*I don't claim it's relevant, but I have been using Canon inks.

That is a smart good choice


It's not economical, but Canon "got me" with their #$@# chips (I do want to know when a cartridge runs out of ink) and partly I print occasional batches of photos and want to be sure I get reasonable print life.



I am not going to waste my time with cheap refilling inks.

I do not blame you.


Whatever people say about them, the fact is the quality is going to be variable, and with the OEM inks, you know what you are getting.

Exactly


I bought ready-filled cheap cartridges once, and made a test print, of an identical picture I printed out on original Epson ink, and places them both in a Window. They both faded over a whole summer, but the cheap one faded much more, and all that was left was the blue.

The churchgoeers who post here will not want to believe you.  It goes against their cult.


ss.
 
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measekite

Michael Johnson wrote: Synapse Syndrome wrote:
"Russell E. Owen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

It's not scientific, but my MP500 has never had a clog and I only print
every few weeks. I've gone through about 3 sets of ink cartridges*

Thanks for telling me about your real-world experience.

Well, I'm happy to see that Russell's post was useful for you.  I guess it wasn't so cryptic after all.

*I don't claim it's relevant, but I have been using Canon inks. It's not
economical, but Canon "got me" with their #$@# chips (I do want to know
when a cartridge runs out of ink) and partly I print occasional batches
of photos and want to be sure I get reasonable print life.


I am not going to waste my time with cheap refilling inks.  Whatever people say about them, the fact is the quality is going to be variable, and with the OEM inks, you know what you are getting.  I bought ready-filled cheap cartridges once, and made a test print, of an identical picture I printed out on original Epson ink, and places them both in a Window.  They both faded over a whole summer, but the cheap one faded much more, and all that was left was the blue.
I do not blame you.

ss.
 
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Burt

Synapse Syndrome said:
Thanks for telling me about your real-world experience.




I am not going to waste my time with cheap refilling inks. Whatever
people say about them, the fact is the quality is going to be variable,
and with the OEM inks, you know what you are getting. I bought
ready-filled cheap cartridges once, and made a test print, of an identical
picture I printed out on original Epson ink, and places them both in a
Window. They both faded over a whole summer, but the cheap one faded much
more, and all that was left was the blue.

ss.

You have hit directly on the reason to NOT use prefilled cheap aftermarket
cartridges, and you've missed the point on using the best quality refill ink
that you can buy from a reputable dealer. Prefilled cart manufacturers
sometimes change the brand of ink they use without notifying the vendor who
sells them. That can lead to variability in the contained ink and
less-than-satisfactory results. On the other hand, purchasing a known
manufacturer's ink from a reliable vendor assures you of a consistant
product. Alotofthings sell inks from Sensient-Formulabs, a well known ink
formulator. Imaging Specialist inks are available from (presumed but not
confirmed by) MIS, and they are advertised and confirmed as available from
Precision Colors. Hobbicolors doesn't disclose the manufacturer of the ink
that they sell, but I know people who have used their inks for two years and
they have had very consistant results. I have made prints with Imaging
Specialist inks for Canon printers that have been on display in our home for
almost four years in glass front frames. There is no discernable fading.
Placing inkjet prints (or photo lab prints) in the window through the summer
will produce fading, and OEM inks do tend to fade less when exposed to this
sort of extreme condition.

With OEM inks you know what you are getting?????? :Some printer
manufacturers are known to outsource production of their inks to more than
one ink formulator/manufacturer. Like any product, there have been OEM
inks/carts that have been faulty and had to be replaced.
 

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