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[Tawny Port]

Hi ppl who have used it.

Friend of mine,,(god, how many times we heard that?) got a shop to put in a 120g h/d and load it
with xp and lots of nice other stuff,,, but, he didnt get the guy to partition it,, (as i had
told him to do.).

Now, he has realised that he should have partitioned it,, (ho ho, he finally listened) but because
of the 'nice' things his shop loaded on, we dont want to lose them,,, and the way i see it, we dont
have to.

Partition Magic. I have it and could partition his 120 so that the C:drive has enough to run xp
Plus another 10g for incidentals,, then make a huge D:drive that could handle more than needed
by making it 100g... then could make either an Fdrive or an F and G of 5g each... (which is
how i would do it.0

Here's the thing,,,, yes, i do have part magic8, but have never used it,,, and i dont want to
look like a d/head in his presence if i use it and screw things up.... so,,,, if
there are any P/M users here i'd appreciate a tad of a walk-through...

I know it cant be done in this group,, (unless others chime in who are interested in the same
thing............!) so am sure i can find empty n/g to borrow.

hope someone willing to help.

 

[nomad]

Hi ppl who have used it.

Friend of mine,,(god, how many times we heard that?) got a shop to put in a 120g h/d and load it
with xp and lots of nice other stuff,,, but, he didnt get the guy to partition it,, (as i had
told him to do.).

Now, he has realised that he should have partitioned it,, (ho ho, he finally listened) but because
of the 'nice' things his shop loaded on, we dont want to lose them,,, and the way i see it, we dont
have to.

Partition Magic. I have it and could partition his 120 so that the C:drive has enough to run xp
Plus another 10g for incidentals,, then make a huge D:drive that could handle more than needed
by making it 100g... then could make either an Fdrive or an F and G of 5g each... (which is
how i would do it.0

Here's the thing,,,, yes, i do have part magic8, but have never used it,,, and i dont want to
look like a d/head in his presence if i use it and screw things up.... so,,,, if
there are any P/M users here i'd appreciate a tad of a walk-through...

I know it cant be done in this group,, (unless others chime in who are interested in the same
thing............!) so am sure i can find empty n/g to borrow.

hope someone willing to help.

Hi,

I have recently done this using magic 8 and it is very easy. Here are
the steps.

CLick create a new partition from the left hand pane
Click next
CLick next again as the default (after c:\) is what you want. (it will
always say after the previous created drive so stick with this)
Select C:\ (the partition you wish to take the memory from for the
partition.
Thats it.
Follow the above steps for the other partitions.

 

[neil]

This might help, depends what version you have but the basic are the same
http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/using_partition_magic_5.htm

Neil

 

[PD43]

Partition Magic. I have it and could partition his 120 so that the C:drive has enough to run xp
Plus another 10g for incidentals,, then make a huge D:drive that could handle more than needed
by making it 100g... then could make either an Fdrive or an F and G of 5g each... (which is
how i would do it.0

Here's the thing,,,, yes, i do have part magic8, but have never used it,,, and i dont want to
look like a d/head in his presence if i use it and screw things up.... so,,,, if
there are any P/M users here i'd appreciate a tad of a walk-through...

Here's the thing,,,, This isn't a Partition Magic Training group.

It's a group for discussing the XP operating system,,,,

so,,,, Use the HELP function of PM

 

[Tawny Port]

This might help, depends what version you have but the basic are the same
http://www.webtree.ca/newlife/using_partition_magic_5.htm

Neil

Thanks Neil,,,,,
version is Part'8.

Its not so much that i could google or even read more thoroughly through the 'help' files of
p/m,,,,,, its just that sometimes its always good to talk to someone who has 'been there, done
that', first,,,,, if one is lucky enuff to find a person like that. (in my experience so far,
there is always a good 'behind the scenes tip' that someone is aware of that can make a lotta
difference sometimes..)

thanks again neil. (that is a great site for v5users, also good just to read too)

again, bottom line is, would rather do it right first time,,, is easier than making a mistake
and paying for it later. he is putting his trust in me, so i'd like to still be liked when job
is finished... !

 

[RebelRouser]

You cannot have 120Gb after formatting ANY drive.
Even if a new drive with nuthin on it then still cannot have 120Gb after a
format.
Same goes for a 1Tb drive.........aint gonna be 1Tb after formattin.

 

[PD43]

Its not so much that i could google or even read more thoroughly through the 'help' files of
p/m,,,,,, its just that sometimes its always good to talk to someone who has 'been there, done
that', first,,,,,

People who don't read the help files and do some googling first are
lazy and want others who have done that to do their work for them.

That person you're helping is in trouble.

 

[Twayne]

Thanks Neil,,,,,
version is Part'8.

Its not so much that i could google or even read more thoroughly
through the 'help' files of p/m,,,,,, its just that sometimes its
always good to talk to someone who has 'been there, done that',
first,,,,, if one is lucky enuff to find a person like that.
(in my experience so far, there is always a good 'behind the scenes
tip' that someone is aware of that can make a lotta difference
sometimes..)

thanks again neil. (that is a great site for v5users, also good just
to read too)

again, bottom line is, would rather do it right first time,,, is
easier than making a mistake and paying for it later. he is
putting his trust in me, so i'd like to still be liked when job is
finished... !

Then ... naturally ... you are making sure there is a complete backup of
everything FIRST, right? ANYtime you mess with disk structures, ALWAYS
make a backup first. "Stuff" happens, and when it does will NOT be when
you expect it to. Especially since you say you've never used the
application you're going to use for your friend's machine.
The only sensible way to do anything like that is to make the backups
first.

--
--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org

 

[Twayne]

You cannot have 120Gb after formatting ANY drive.

Even if a new drive with nuthin on it then still cannot have 120Gb
after a format.
Same goes for a 1Tb drive.........aint gonna be 1Tb after formattin.

You should go back to sleep.



--
--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org

 

[RebelRouser]

And what's wrong wiv yer brain?
It is a fact ok!.
Twot..........
What size it says aint wot you get after formattin

 

[Nepatsfan]

Hi ppl who have used it.

Friend of mine,,(god, how many times we heard that?) got a shop to put in a
120g h/d and load it
with xp and lots of nice other stuff,,, but, he didnt get the guy to
partition it,, (as i had
told him to do.).

Now, he has realised that he should have partitioned it,, (ho ho, he finally
listened) but because
of the 'nice' things his shop loaded on, we dont want to lose them,,, and the
way i see it, we dont
have to.

Partition Magic. I have it and could partition his 120 so that the
C:drive has enough to run xp
Plus another 10g for incidentals,, then make a huge D:drive that could
handle more than needed
by making it 100g... then could make either an Fdrive or an F and G of 5g
each... (which is
how i would do it.0

Here's the thing,,,, yes, i do have part magic8, but have never used it,,,
and i dont want to
look like a d/head in his presence if i use it and screw things up....
so,,,, if
there are any P/M users here i'd appreciate a tad of a walk-through...

I know it cant be done in this group,, (unless others chime in who are
interested in the same
thing............!) so am sure i can find empty n/g to borrow.

hope someone willing to help.

As has already been pointed out, any important files should be backed up before
running PM. And don't assume the backup worked. Make sure you can restore these
files should something go wrong.

If you want to keep this person as a friend, you should at least take the time
to familiarize yourself with the program. PM 8.0 comes with a quick start guide
on the installation disk. Look for PM8QUICK.PDF in the English\Docs folder. Read
it!

Shut down any open applications and launch PM. Your friend's C drive will be
shown in the right hand pane. Right click on it and select Resize/Move from the
menu. In the window that pops up, position the mouse pointer on the right hand
side of the slider bar. It should turn into a double headed arrow. Move the
slider bar to the left to shrink the C drive. I would suggest leaving 30 to 40
GBs for the C drive to accommodate XP and all installed programs. You should now
see the hard drive space that will become his D drive listed in the Free Space
After box. Click OK. Hit the Apply button and PM will shrink the C drive.

You could use PM to create a second partition and format the new drive but since
this is your first time using the program, I'd advise you instead to rely on the
tool built into Windows XP that can do this job, Disk Management.

You can access Disk Management by right clicking My Computer and selecting
Manage from the menu. In Computer Management, click on Disk Management in the
left hand column. In the right hand pane, there should now be a large
unallocated area on your friend's hard drive. Right click on it, create a
partition, and then format it.

Personally, I don't see the need for more than 2 partitions on a hard drive. C
holds XP, installed programs, and pagefile. D is for data.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

 

[Holz]

Hi ppl who have used it.

No, i never do.
read this guide for the best partition tool around. READ THE ENTIRE
THING!
http://www.conejonetwork.com/upg.pdf

 

[PD43]

If you want to keep this person as a friend, you should at least take the time
to familiarize yourself with the program. PM 8.0 comes with a quick start guide
on the installation disk. Look for PM8QUICK.PDF in the English\Docs folder. Read
it!

AYUP.

 

[neil]

It's a long time since I used partition magic 8 but I thought the link with
instructions for version 5 was a good source of information. You need an
understanding of creating an extended partition then creating logical drives
within that partition.

You need to set a new size for the C:\ partition then create an extended
partition in free space that is left. Without the program running in front
of me it's not easy to remember every command or step by step button to
press.

Hope that bit helps & someone else may have a step by step guide.
Neil

 

[Tawny Port]

And what's wrong wiv yer brain?
It is a fact ok!.
Twot..........
What size it says aint wot you get after formattin

Um, thank you rebel... even though I dont recall being fussed about losing a few mb here n' there,
or even asking about it.

Whats a twot? something you can relate to?

 

[Tawny Port]

As has already been pointed out, any important files should be backed up before

running PM. And don't assume the backup worked. Make sure you can restore these
files should something go wrong.

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Okay, will do.

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If you want to keep this person as a friend, you should at least take the time
to familiarize yourself with the program. PM 8.0 comes with a quick start guide
on the installation disk. Look for PM8QUICK.PDF in the English\Docs folder. Read
it!

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Okay, will do.. I have read a fair bit of it before, guess I am just a bit scared of messing up
someone elses computer.

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Shut down any open applications and launch PM. Your friend's C drive will be
shown in the right hand pane. Right click on it and select Resize/Move from the
menu. In the window that pops up, position the mouse pointer on the right hand
side of the slider bar. It should turn into a double headed arrow. Move the
slider bar to the left to shrink the C drive. I would suggest leaving 30 to 40
GBs for the C drive to accommodate XP and all installed programs.

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Can I/we have the C:drive half of that size? or even Quarter? I dont think the C: will
be manually used that much after the partitioning as all of his stuff will go on the newly
created drive.. Could we just make the C:drive about 10 or 15 gigs at most?

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You should now

see the hard drive space that will become his D drive listed in the Free Space
After box. Click OK. Hit the Apply button and PM will shrink the C drive.

You could use PM to create a second partition and format the new drive but since
this is your first time using the program, I'd advise you instead to rely on the
tool built into Windows XP that can do this job, Disk Management.

You can access Disk Management by right clicking My Computer and selecting
Manage from the menu. In Computer Management, click on Disk Management in the
left hand column. In the right hand pane, there should now be a large
unallocated area on your friend's hard drive. Right click on it, create a
partition, and then format it.

Personally, I don't see the need for more than 2 partitions on a hard drive. C
holds XP, installed programs, and pagefile. D is for data.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

Thank you so much Nepatsfan,, it is exactly this type of information I was looking
for.

I have a new problem with the same computer, and have started a new thread, would very
much appreciate your input there too.

 

[Tawny Port]

No, i never do.
read this guide for the best partition tool around. READ THE ENTIRE
THING!
http://www.conejonetwork.com/upg.pdf

I will go read it,, thank you for your reply Holz.

 

[Nepatsfan]

Answered inline.

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Okay, will do.

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Okay, will do.. I have read a fair bit of it before, guess I am just a
bit scared of messing up
someone elses computer.

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Can I/we have the C:drive half of that size? or even Quarter? I dont think
the C: will
be manually used that much after the partitioning as all of his stuff will go
on the newly
created drive.. Could we just make the C:drive about 10 or 15 gigs at most?

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My suggestion of a 30 to 40 GB C drive is to leave room for a possible future
upgrade of the operating system as well as installation of new software. What
size you set it to is up to you. Just don't be surprised when your friend tells
you he's running out of room on C.

You should now

Thank you so much Nepatsfan,, it is exactly this type of information I was
looking
for.

I have a new problem with the same computer, and have started a new thread,
would very
much appreciate your input there too.

You're welcome.

Nepatsfan

 

[Lil' Dave]

At the outset, the 120GB advertised capacity is not measured in the same
terms as what is used in the operating system. Its less for the latter.

The partition structure takes space, creating a filesystem table also takes
space.

I guess the politcally sleazy term "few" could be used in terms of MBs to
describe the consequential loss of space during such partitioning and
formatting. Especially since the term "few" is a self-comparative analogy
of the sum entirety, and, the usable formatting space of the partition. The
difference between the 2 is relatively small in number from some
perspectives, thus the word "few". The difference could be easily stated in
GBs as well. GBs is by no means small to most people. The result is the
term "few" used by the OP, and, in terms of GBs which most poeple don't
consider small.

Factually, you are correct in terms of description of usable formatted space
of a factory stated 120GB capacity of a hard drive. Indeed, there cannot be
120GB usable space after such formatting.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

For the click-impaired, this tutorial is about making
a live CD containing Gparted (the Gnome Partition Editor)
and using it to make and manipulate partitions. It is
Open Source, so it is free and downloadable, and the
Linux guys all love it. It runs on Linux (a minimal version
of which is on the Live CD), but it makes and manipulates
Windows NTFS partitions, too. Here is more info on it:
http://howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted

*TimDaniels*