MS Antispy has too many problems

[Andy Manchesta]

Hi i had MS Antispy for a couple of weeks,It was good to
try out the beta version but im suprised so many people
on here are saying how great it is,In my Opinion is has
alot of problems and shouldnt of been released so early
as it puts me off buying it when it finally gets released,
A lot of the time it give conflicting information in the
pop ups a couple of times ive noticed it saying its
allowed stuff but then reading the rest of the text it
says its blocked it because it cant be trusted,And both
times ive noticed this it has been with Microsoft updates
that have gone onto my pc and it says the auther is
unknown and that type of thing.
I cant give exact details as i dont write the info down
plus have removed it from my pc as it was getting
annoying.
Everytime i did a scan it would say theres a possible
browser hijacker in internet local page that was a high
risk threat and needed urgent attention.The first few
times it said it deleted it but i can run scan after scan
without rebooting and it always said the same thing and
always said it deleted it.More recently it finds the same
problem but if i chose to remove it then the MS Antispy
freezes and says its not responding i tried it loads of
times and always it would say its not responding when i
chose to remove this brower hijacker,In my opinion there
isnt any browser hijackers and think the MS Antispy still
has alot of bugs that need sorting out it was good to
test it but i dont feel confident its working properly
and dont think it should of been released untill they had
things working correct.
I have Norton,Spybot s&d,Adaware,Spysweeper & CWShredder
and Yahoo Antispy,so maybe this was causing some
conflicts but think these days its best to have to much
protection than just rely on one program,
The MS Antispy looks great but doesnt work very well and
this browser hijacker problem just made me think it has
some problems especially with it saying its allowed
programs and changes only to read the text below that
says its blocked the programs or changes.
I suppose thats was beta versions are all about to test
things but i would of thought a MS Product whether beta
or not wouldnt have so many problems and would recognise
other MS downloads rather than say the auther is unknown
each time,
I couldnt find anywhere else to post feedback so thought
id put a letter on here as most of the other letters are
saying how great the product is so wanted to express my
lack of confidence in it,I will maybe wait for the
finished version then try it again

Thanks Andy

 

[Mark L. Ferguson]

It HASN'T been released yet. It's a Beta.
FAQ for MS AntiSpy (browser version) http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

 

[Guest]

-----Original Message-----
It HASN'T been released yet. It's a Beta.
FAQ for MS AntiSpy (browser version) http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm


"Andy Manchesta" <[email protected]> wrote in

message news:[email protected]...

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I fully agree with Andy : it should not have been been
released as a public beta.
It is too limited, it has too many flaws.

 

[AndyManchesta]

The point i was trying to make was that it had alot of
bugs that needed fixing,I dont see the point in your
response at all unless it was just a way to advertise
your forum,Call it what you like released or published
its available to download but in my experience with it,It
has alot of stuff to fix before i would call it a good
antispy program,The main reason for my post was to give
microsoft some feedback on the product and dont see how
your smart comments help anything,Unless you are trying
to get free ads for your site,which im sure you could do
without the need to respond saying its not released its
beta.We know that and that is why im posting feedback on
it as now its been removed from my pc as its not working
that well for me

Rgards Andy

 

[A McGuire]

I've had no issues and I've ran it since day 1. Maybe there are end-user
issues...

If you don't like beta products, this one is not for you.

 

[A McGuire]

Uninstall it if you don't have any positive feedback. If you see there are
some limitations, why don't you post them - you would turn what seems to be
a negative attitude into positive feedback.

Beta my friend... beta...

 

[Bullwinkle. J. Moose]

You have to have a certain mind to run betas. Be ready for the system crash.
Be ready for cleaning up programs that are in conflict and won't run.

Too many folks expect the beta to be the final product but MS has always run
public betas and found lots of problems to fix.

If a user is unable to stomach disappointment he should not run any beta.

 

[AndyManchesta]

Ive just been reading the responses and to be honest
cannot see there's much support on here,One guy saying he
doesnt like whiners and another saying im wrong to say
its released when its not its beta.
From what i can see maybe you didnt read my original post
where i put the problems i was having with the MS Antispy
if thats the case then your responses make sense but if
you have read it and still have them views then maybe you
should keep you opinions to your self as im personally
not interested in them,Calling me a whiner and saying im
wrong by describing the product as released is just
Stupid remarks and maybe you all need some fresh air so
your brains can work clearer.Im not whining by describing
faults on ms antispy and like i say if you all think its
great and think i am wrong to say otherwise then keep
your opinions to yourselves,I described what the faults
were in my original mail but the replies do not apply to
my mail,I was just posting some feedback and know now
theres alot of narrow minded fools reading these forums
so will not post on them anymore.I dont have the Antispy
installed on my pc now as i found too many bugs on it and
it seems along way off being ready for release.
If you didnt read my original mail then i can understand
the confusion but if you did and still say im whining and
this and that then why respond with insults to me.Its not
my problem it has faults i was just pointing out what
they were in my original mail but it seems like these
responses are just nonsense and im not interested now as
i dont have the product installed anymore
So quit the crap and good luck to you all and ms antispy
hope they can read through all the nonsense and find my
original mail,
Regards Andy

 

[plun]

AndyManchesta wrote:

"Snip" OK

So quit the crap and good luck to you all and ms antispy
hope they can read through all the nonsense and find my
original mail,
Regards Andy

"Scan your PC to death" maybe..............

I totally agree with you, put all money in IE development
instead.

--

 

[Danny Kile]

Hi i had MS Antispy for a couple of weeks,It was good to
try out the beta version but im suprised so many people
on here are saying how great it is,In my Opinion is has
alot of problems and shouldnt of been released so early
as it puts me off buying it when it finally gets released,
A lot of the time it give conflicting information in the
pop ups a couple of times ive noticed it saying its
allowed stuff but then reading the rest of the text it
says its blocked it because it cant be trusted,And both
times ive noticed this it has been with Microsoft updates
that have gone onto my pc and it says the auther is
unknown and that type of thing.
I cant give exact details as i dont write the info down
plus have removed it from my pc as it was getting
annoying.
Everytime i did a scan it would say theres a possible
browser hijacker in internet local page that was a high
risk threat and needed urgent attention.The first few
times it said it deleted it but i can run scan after scan
without rebooting and it always said the same thing and
always said it deleted it.More recently it finds the same
problem but if i chose to remove it then the MS Antispy
freezes and says its not responding i tried it loads of
times and always it would say its not responding when i
chose to remove this brower hijacker,In my opinion there
isnt any browser hijackers and think the MS Antispy still
has alot of bugs that need sorting out it was good to
test it but i dont feel confident its working properly
and dont think it should of been released untill they had
things working correct.
I have Norton,Spybot s&d,Adaware,Spysweeper & CWShredder
and Yahoo Antispy,so maybe this was causing some
conflicts but think these days its best to have to much
protection than just rely on one program,
The MS Antispy looks great but doesnt work very well and
this browser hijacker problem just made me think it has
some problems especially with it saying its allowed
programs and changes only to read the text below that
says its blocked the programs or changes.
I suppose thats was beta versions are all about to test
things but i would of thought a MS Product whether beta
or not wouldnt have so many problems and would recognise
other MS downloads rather than say the auther is unknown
each time,
I couldnt find anywhere else to post feedback so thought
id put a letter on here as most of the other letters are
saying how great the product is so wanted to express my
lack of confidence in it,I will maybe wait for the
finished version then try it again

Thanks Andy

Some people just do not understand the concept of what Beta Software is.

 

[plun]

Some people just do not understand the concept of what Beta Software is.

This "Beta" software is widely spread and only MS can give
answer why they
did that.

It was advertised on microsoft.com´s frontpage, Test it !!!!

What do you think users wanted from it ? just a beta test
or spyware removal ?

--

 

[Ron Chamberlin]

Hi Andy,

Hi i had MS Antispy for a couple of weeks,It was good to try out the beta
version but im suprised so many people
on here are saying how great it is,In my Opinion is has a lot of problems
and shouldnt of been released so early
as it puts me off buying it when it finally gets released,>

There are quite the number of different sytems with different porgrams, and
varying degrees of users computer knowlege with such a widespread Beta.
The term 'Your Mileage May Vary' certainly applies to this, and any other
Beta program. It's still under developemnt, and there are bugs. Hopefully,
when released, the great majority of them will be gone. With so many
different users, whose mileage doeas vary, you will see a number of
different opinions posted.

A lot of the time it give conflicting information in the pop ups a couple
of times ive noticed it saying its
allowed stuff but then reading the rest of the text it says its blocked
it because it cant be trusted,And both
times ive noticed this it has been with Microsoft updates that have gone
onto my pc and it says the auther is
unknown and that type of thing.>

Yes, I had a couple of blue boxes pop up on me the other day that were a
result of the code introduced by Windows Updates. In a sense, the AntiSpy
program worked, as it did alert me that changes were being proposed to the
system. This will likely work itself out as the release date approaches.

< Everytime i did a scan it would say theres a possible browser hijacker in
internet local page that was a high risk threat and needed urgent
attention.The first few times it said it deleted it but i can run scan
after scan without rebooting and it always said the same thing and always
said it deleted it.>
I would have suggestd running from Safe Mode (F8 at startup) , and cheking
under Tools--->manage Addons in IE to see if there were suspicious or unkown
objest listed that could be unchceked.

<In my opinion there isnt any browser hijackers and think the MS Antispy
still has alot of bugs that need sorting out it was good to

test it but i dont feel confident its working properly and dont think it
should of been released untill they had things working correct.>

That is your opinion, an dyou are entitled ot it. MS reads opinions too.

I have Norton,Spybot s&d,Adaware,Spysweeper & CWShredder and Yahoo
Antispy,so maybe this was causing some
conflicts but think these days its best to have to much protection than
just rely on one program,>

Perhaps a conflict could occur if more than one were runnign at the same
time. My suggestion for years is hat folsk use the porgram that does the
best job for them, and that they are most comfortable with.

I suppose thats was beta versions are all about to test things but i
would of thought a MS Product whether beta or not wouldnt have so many
problems and would recognise other MS downloads rather than say the
auther is unknown each time,>

I've been doing beta testing, a/k/a software crash dummy, for several
companies for a number of years. This product hardly approaches the
problems I've caused my machines and headaches I''ve given myself in other
betas.

I couldnt find anywhere else to post feedback so thought id put a letter
on here as most of the other letters are
saying how great the product is so wanted to express my lack of confidence
in it,I will maybe wait for the
finished version then try it again >

Again, thanks for your opinion.

Thanks Andy

You're Welcome,
Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP

 

[AndyManchesta]

To Ron

Thanks for the detailed reply I appreciate you taking the
time to respond to each of the points i raised in my
original mail,I can see theres alot of people on here who
want to defend MS Antispy as if it was part of their own
family and the replies i got were mostly saying i was
whining and shouldnt use beta programs,I was happy to try
out the product and think i have the right to post
feedback without having to read insults aimed at me for
pointing out what the faults were.

With the browser Hijacker problem that kept returning
each time i scanned,I followed your advise and booted
into safe mode and from the tools menu opened Manage
addons in IE,I must admit i never even knew that page
existed so i appreciate you mentioning it but in that
screen i have 9 items listed

SDHelper.dll BHO from spybot,
AcroIEHelper.ocx BHO from Adobe systems,
NAVshExt.dll BHO,NISHhExt.dll BHO,NAVshExt.dll
Toolbar,NISHhExt.dll Toolbar from Symantec,
npjpi150_01.dll Browser Extention From Sun Microsystems,
ycomp5_5_7_0.dll BHO & ycomp5_5_7_0.dll Toolbar from
Yahoo.

Even though 6 of these say not verified i believe them
all to be trusted providers and dont think any need
removing,
I think it will not take MS long to get the bugs fixed
and then im sure it will be a great product,I appreciate
the chance to test it but in my own experience with it
found it wasnt working that great and with it constantly
freezing and saying not responding when i tried to delete
this alleged browser hijacker i thought i am best
removing it for now and sticking with my other security
programs as they all seem to be doing a great job,
I didnt mean to sound negative in my original mail but
just to highlight some problem areas as i am aware its a
beta version and probably will not be released fully
untill later in the year so thought the more feedback MS
get then the better the product will be once released.
Anyway good luck to you all and thanks again for the
response

Regards Andy

 

[Ron Chamberlin]

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the detailed reply I appreciate you taking the time to respond
to each of the points i raised in my
original mail,>

No problem. The NG's can appear to be quite murky to some, and sometimes we
are too short in our answers without thinking that the user might just be
new to the problem, program, or even new to NG's.

<I can see theres alot of people on here who want to defend MS Antispy as if
it was part of their own family>
This program isn't the cure all for spyware, but, my opinion is that it's a
good start. MVP's aren't held to a standard of being apologists for anyone,
and are here to help the best they can. I carry a host of other 'tools' on
CD's or USB keys for dealing with this junk that is messing up good folks
using the Internet.

< and the replies i got were mostly saying i was whining and shouldnt use
beta programs,I was happy to try out the product>
I've been doing betas for over ten years for MS and others, and have been
mighty disappointed from time to time. When doing a beta, one should
consider themselves as a 'software crash dummy' to an extent, and hope for
the best ride you can get. Not everything will work right out of the box,
and sometimes features are absent or disabled from build to build. In the
end, when a final product is produced, it is better due to the work of beta
testers who use it in all sorts of cirucmstances with all types of hardware
and software cobinations.

<and think i have the right to post feedback without having to read insults
aimed at me for pointing out what the faults were.>
I find that wearing Kevlar at the keyboard is best to duck the incoming.

Even though 6 of these say not verified i believe them all to be trusted
providers and dont think any need removing,>

They all appear to be legitimate. The list seems to be Spybot, NAV, Adobe,
Java 1.5, and a pair from Yahoo.

Anyway good luck to you all and thanks again for the response.>

No problem. You need not run the program if you wish, but be sure to stick
around the NG's and see what's happening. You might also wish to check
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/default.mspx for best practices.

Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP