Microsoft VM / Java Applets

[D. Richard]

I am running the latest version/update for IE6 on a WinXP
Pro (also with latest updates). Whenever I try to run a
game from the Microsoft Zone or Yahoo's game section, I
get an error saying that my browser is incompatible or
the game never loads.

I have checked security settings (set them ALL to low); I
tried installing Sun's Java; I re-installed the OS from
scratch. Nothing seems to help.

I am able to run the games from a WinXP Home that has all
the same IE6 Updates.

 

[*Vanguard*]

"D. Richard" said in news:[email protected]:

I am running the latest version/update for IE6 on a WinXP
Pro (also with latest updates). Whenever I try to run a
game from the Microsoft Zone or Yahoo's game section, I
get an error saying that my browser is incompatible or
the game never loads.

I have checked security settings (set them ALL to low); I
tried installing Sun's Java; I re-installed the OS from
scratch. Nothing seems to help.

I am able to run the games from a WinXP Home that has all
the same IE6 Updates.

Some configurations of Windows XP won't come with Microsoft's Java Virtual
Machine (JVM) because of a settled lawsuit with Sun. If I hunted around, I
believe there is a way to get Microsoft to provide an updated version of
their runtime JVM but it requires you manage to get an old version installed
and then run Windows Updates. Otherwise, go to http://java.com/en/index.jsp
and use Sun's.

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi D. Richard - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/personal/support/index.html#java

There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Sept. 30, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp, and
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ ,and more recently here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....RBAELCFEY?type=technologyNews&storyID=3572282
so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.exe
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...XP/com_microsoft.javavm_3809_5853/msjavwu.exe,
or here: http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the entry for Windows 2000 SP4 (this seems to
be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find 816093 in the list. You
can find directions for using the Windows Update Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;323166. (I am
informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you rename the downloaded file from
here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 to
msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4.)

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."



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Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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[LuckyStrike]

D.,

Jim Byrd covered it about as thoroughly as can be imagined. I wasn't sure if
I saw this link in his reply; he offered so many. ;-)) Hope I haven't
stepped on your toes Jim. My apologies I extend to you if I have.

But if not see here.
http://java-virtual-machine.net/download.html

 

[Jim Byrd]

Hi Lucky - No problem - always glad to have people chime in - that's what
these groups are about. Thanks for that link - I didn't have it, and
there's some interesting stuff there including a new 3810 Win2kSP4
workaround. Note that the Test and Install link is bad - should be
https://mpsnet.com/mvision/java.html

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Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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[LuckyStrike]

I appreciate your friendly response Jim, and am happy to have "helped"
rather than hindered.

The URL's and evaluations you provided were also needed as well. I had them
from quite some time back, but due to a crash of some magnitude in November,
I had lost your original post and the other info that was contained in it.
My thanks also for the "update" to the proper Test and Install link.

Regarding my problem with the crash and the resulting data loss (an amusing
,gif cartoon):

http://www.onzin.nl/3991/pictures/blowup.gif

Best Regards,

 

[Jim Byrd]

The following is from a recent Win2kNews. Pick which apply :


* The Lighter Side: Japanese Error Messages

Here are 14 actual error messages seen on the computer screens
in Japan, where some are written in Haiku. Aren't these better
than "your computer has performed an illegal operation"?

1. The Web site you seek cannot be located, but countless more
exist.
2. Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall
return.
3. Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You
ask far too much.
4. Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one
hears your screams.
5. Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is
like that.
6. Your file was so big. It might be very useful. But now
it is gone.
7. Stay the patient course. Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.
8. A crash reduces your expensive computer to a simple stone.
9. Three things are certain: Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred?
10. You step in the stream, but the water has moved on.
This page is not here.
11. Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, but we
never will.
12. Having been erased, the document you're seeking must
now be retyped.
13. Serious error. All shortcuts have disappeared.
14. Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

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Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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[LuckyStrike]

LOL! All are most wonderful and fitting...when one is not suffering from any
of those events at the moment.

Sometimes a simple Grrrrrrrrrr! would also sum it up (and offer about as
much salvation/consolation).

http://www.onzin.nl/3991/pictures/error.jpg
http://www.onzin.nl/3991/pictures/errorsuccess.jpg
http://www.onzin.nl/3991/pictures/window_options.gif

Regards of the highest kind,

 

[Tedd Riggs]

after looking at CDO postings, without a doubt:
14. Screen. Mind. Both are blank.