kazaa lite connection problem in xp

[Hilary Karp]

Leythos wrote:

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Top posting, as well as not snipping the parts that are no longer needed
is indeed a method of the new, uninformed users.

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Lol..what bullshit. Some of the most experienced and informed users top
post. What a self righteous idiot.

 

[Leythos]

Lol..what bullshit. Some of the most experienced and informed users top
post. What a self righteous idiot.

Think what you like, but having many people doing it doesn't change the
fact that it does not follow the standard and norms. I don't really care
if "Experienced" or "Informed" users top post, since the early 80's the
accepted practice has been to bottom post and snip properly.

Top posters generally don't snip and are usually too full of their own
self importance to follow the accepted practices on Usenet.

 

[Leythos]

Are you a netcop? Who cares if someone top or bottom posts. The problem
should be with one's inability to read. I simply reply in kind, and neither
format matters to me!

So, what are you saying, that people posting in a manner that is not
consistent with the norm should not be informed of it? Are you saying
that anyone on usenet should stand back and watch as the tried and true
standard, while still working perfectly, is changed by people to lazy to
take the time to properly post?

Many people do reply by following the format used by the first reply,
but, others tend to top post no matter what form is being used.

Top posters generally don't snip and are usually too full of their own
self importance to follow the accepted practices on Usenet.

 

[Jone Doe]

Top posting, as well as not snipping the parts that are no longer needed
is indeed a method of the new, uninformed users.

I'll put it down here, just to make you happy, although I prefer and most
often top post. New, and uninformed. Well, the first operating system I
played with was DOS 1.25 (a). I even managed to to get a 10 meg hard drive
going with that system. Before that of course I had the "play" computers,
both Timex Sinclair and the Radio Shack version. At college we had the main
frame, which we accessed via IBM punch cards. I could probably still
program in COBOL if I had to.

Again, it's a matter of choice. Top post or bottom post as you prefer.

 

[Leythos]

I'll put it down here, just to make you happy, although I prefer and most
often top post. New, and uninformed. Well, the first operating system I
played with was DOS 1.25 (a). I even managed to to get a 10 meg hard drive
going with that system. Before that of course I had the "play" computers,
both Timex Sinclair and the Radio Shack version. At college we had the main
frame, which we accessed via IBM punch cards. I could probably still
program in COBOL if I had to.

Again, it's a matter of choice. Top post or bottom post as you prefer.

I'm not trying to start a flame fest, I was hoping this would just be a
simple discussion and not lead to anything other than simple
conversation.

I've been working with systems since the 70's and started when we had to
write your own boot-strap loader, COBOL was the 4th language I learned.
I've been on Usenet since the early 80's and have seen it grow in size,
remain mostly the same, and seen "users" try to change it.

You are correct, it's a matter of choice, as many things are, but, there
is an accepted norm for Usenet, it's in all the guidelines for Usenet,
and it's also the easiest way to follow a thread.

If a post is only going to get one reply, a simple one liner, and no
additional replies, then I would agree that a top-post and snipping all
the remaining would be practical.

 

[JAX]

If top posting is not acceptable, why is it the default method when you
click on reply to group??? I prefer to read a top posted message response. I
have already read the rest of the thread. Why wade through it again just to
see what one poster has to say?

JAX

 

[Leythos]

If top posting is not acceptable, why is it the default method when you
click on reply to group??? I prefer to read a top posted message response. I
have already read the rest of the thread. Why wade through it again just to
see what one poster has to say?

It's not the default on any real Usenet reader. All of the ones I've
used (non-MS ones) start at the bottom by default.

You don't have to wade through anything if you [snip] the parts that are
not needed in the reply.

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409

shows that you posted via OE, which is not a news reader, it's a email
client that had the ability to read news added to it - and as usual, it
was setup and designed for mail only.

Get something like Gravity or other quality news readers and you'll be a
lot happier.

 

[Lars M. Hansen]

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:45:08 +0100, Mat spoketh

Erm, so ashamedly attempting to get seek advice on my original query...

You'll probably find the answer in your ZA log file...

Lars M. Hansen
www.hansenonline.net
Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
"If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"

 

[Jess]

What are you talking about?

I guess you would have to read the posting to figure that out.

 

[Jess]

If top posting is not acceptable, why is it the default method when you
click on reply to group??? I prefer to read a top posted message response. I
have already read the rest of the thread. Why wade through it again just to
see what one poster has to say?

It's not the default on any real Usenet reader. All of the ones I've
used (non-MS ones) start at the bottom by default.

You don't have to wade through anything if you [snip] the parts that are
not needed in the reply.

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409

shows that you posted via OE, which is not a news reader, it's a email
client that had the ability to read news added to it - and as usual, it
was setup and designed for mail only.

Get something like Gravity or other quality news readers and you'll be a
lot happier.

I would imagine 90% of those reading from Usenet do it with Outlook Express.

It amazes me that you can find a nasty abusive postings, and no body
comments, but if you post at the top it is treated like a sin worse than
murder.

 

[Demure Guise]

I guess you would have to read the posting to figure that out.

Well, we'll go through it one at a time. 'dozens of postings', with the 's'
on the end of dozen, you refer to more than one dozen and as there is 12 in
a dozen that means you are talking about at least 24 postings about Kazaa
day in day out.

I sorry but I don't see at least 24 postings about kazaa day in day out. Of
course I'm excluding this current posting subject, cos I'm talking to an
idiot.

 

[Jess]

Well, we'll go through it one at a time. 'dozens of postings', with the 's'
on the end of dozen, you refer to more than one dozen and as there is 12 in
a dozen that means you are talking about at least 24 postings about Kazaa
day in day out.

I sorry but I don't see at least 24 postings about kazaa day in day out. Of
course I'm excluding this current posting subject, cos I'm talking to an
idiot.

Now he is calling me an idiot. He will be swearing next, or worse such as
posting at the top!

Special note to "Demure Guise" Don't try and understand the above comment as
it is clearly beyond your comprehension.

 

[Demure Guise]

Now he is calling me an idiot. He will be swearing next, or worse such as
posting at the top!

Special note to "Demure Guise" Don't try and understand the above comment as
it is clearly beyond your comprehension.

Erm, that's the second time I've called you an idiot. BTW I don't swear
'willy-nilly', my alias should have give you a clue to that. Oh, I'm sorry,
you didn't realise that 'demure' and 'guise' were two English words. Look
them up, pretty boy

 

[Alvin Brown]

Hello

Why would you want Kaaza on your pc any it's just full
of spy-ware

 

[Mojo]

I'll put it down here, just to make you happy, although I prefer and most
often top post. New, and uninformed. Well, the first operating system I
played with was<snip stuff>

Yet you still don't know how to use Usenet.

[shrug]

 

[Jess]

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Erm, that's the second time I've called you an idiot.
BTW I don't swear
'willy-nilly', my alias should have give you a clue to that. Oh, I'm sorry,
you didn't realise that 'demure' and 'guise' were two English words. Look
them up, pretty boy

Pretty boy?? How many boys do you know called Jessica?

Actually, both 'demure' and 'guise' are French words adopted into the
English language.

I subscribed to alt.internet.p2p in the hope I would learn something about
developments in the subject for my research. I have read a lot of rubbish,
fallen in a week moment into this petty exchange with you, and learned
nothing, so as soon as this reply has been sent I will remove the group from
my computer.

You will have to find someone else to be rude to.

 

[Demure Guise]

Pretty boy?? How many boys do you know called Jessica?

'pretty boy' is just a saying. Actually my neice is called Jessica

Actually, both 'demure' and 'guise' are French words adopted into the
English language.

A lot of english words were adopted from other languages, but still they are
in the english dictionary

I subscribed to alt.internet.p2p in the hope I would learn something about
developments in the subject for my research. I have read a lot of rubbish,
fallen in a week moment into this petty exchange with you, and learned
nothing, so as soon as this reply has been sent I will remove the group from
my computer.

Good luck in your research

You will have to find someone else to be rude to.

So sorry !!

 

[T. Sean Weintz]

Bottom posting is proper because YOU say so? I think not. Top posting is
the only way to go. No, that's wrong. It's one of many ways to go, and a
matter of personal choice.

Bottom posting is the way top go because that is what the RFC on
nettiquette specifies.

 

[Dave]

Try turning off ZoneAlarm to see if that is the problem,
regards

 

[Black Baptist]

I just tried WinMX and found no advantages over Kazaa lite.