Justin is really nothing more than another zealot

[DanS]

I never said you did but it's good to know you completely
misunderstood the point.

I don't have to read all the threads. All I have to do is click the
little 'T' button at the bottom to unthread all messages. The sort on
sender by clciking the 'From' header.

Your first post on this thread was: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:41:50 -0700
with a nsgID of #[email protected]

You posted 6 messages to this thread. Then 1 message to the thread: The
Question Noone Can Answer.

Two to this thread. Then one to the Linux is not For Everyone thread.

Then one to the opriginal thread I that started this whole fiasco. 2 to
this thread. 1 to the Questions noone Can Answer thread. 7 to this
thread, 2 to Noone can answer. 8 to this thread. 3 to Noone can answer. 5
to this thread. Another 'Linux is not for everyone' post, this one
seemingly a normal post. Then *43* to this thread. 2 to the Questions
Noone can answer thread. Then 2 more to this thread.

That's 83 posts - 1 = 82 posts of arguing. My posts don't matter because
I never claimed to be here to help anyone, as you do.

Then FINALLY, @ 12:53 my time a semi-intelligible post about something
else. A few more posts, then you ask if anyone esle sees an issue with
Vista not showing a confirmation box after clicking Logoff.

 

[DanS]

It's ok. You'll never get it. I've already accepted that.

You've what ?

 

[Leythos]

That still doesn't mean it doesn’t belong on the shelves. Going back to
your original gripe and not this new spin off to distract from how wrong
you where....Again , if MS waited for ALL drivers they would never have
an OS to release.

Wrong, MS released a PACKAGE - that package included drivers that MS
provided to the people that purchased the PACKAGE.

Your issue is that you don't believe that MS should be held accountable
for crappy drivers MS PROVIDED TO CUSTOMERS and I believe they should.

If the basic drivers were not goog enough to provide quality performance
then the PACKAGE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RELEASED.

 

[DanS]

Very good, now grab someone with at least a 6th grade education to
help you out. In the meantime I'll give you some clues.

You need a clue, the only connection I see to a six-grader is you.

You stated:
"It couldn't mean that a database is being backed up, or someone is
copying a large file the server"

You already know that's not true because:
"without doing anything"
"mostly likely"

Then of course there's the fail safe:
"If you want to test it then"

Now put aside at least an hour or two and think as hard as possible.
Also note where the original question was coming from. You have a
REAL BAD habit of not qualifying the person before making wild
ASSumptions.

It doesn't take that long to understand you.

But, if the original question is the one asked Qu0ll, it was....

'How can I tell if indexing is currently running? I would like to know
if that is causing some perceived performance issues.'

Then was your reply....

"If your drive is constantly active without doing anything then it's
mostly likely building an index.

If you want to test it then you can turn the indexing service off."

Then you were 'corrected' being told that in the control panel you can
get the indexing status.

Then I posted a comment about your lack of intelligence.

Then, and only then here is what REALLY was said, and what my response
was meant for.

(You)
------------------------------

More of your ignorance. Have you ever worked with application servers
or appliances? The best, most common way to detect any form of disk
service is to check for disk thrashing.

---------------------------------------
(Me)
-----------------------------------------
Yeah, looking at the LED really tells me there's a disk service running.
It
couldn't mean that a database is being backed up, or someone is copying a
large file the server, or some other program has gone crazy, or a virus
did
a delete *.* on a disk.

I see you've got your MCSE.

 

[DanS]

A Vista bug is a Vista problem? Wow, I hope that thought didn't take
long.

That still doesn't mean it doesn’t belong on the shelves. Going
back to your original gripe and not this new spin off to distract from
how wrong you where....Again , if MS waited for ALL drivers they would
never have an OS to release.

No, but they could at least have waited until they figured what was wrong
with the network disk operations.

 

[Adam Albright]

You want one? You got one:




So adam, once again you've made yourself look like a complete a-hole. You
never answered the question. How does it feel to be so wrong so often?

When are you going to get it through what laughingly passes for your
"mind" that you don't get to set the agenda or tell other people what
they must do? Hint: Nobody is going to jump through hoops just because
you demand they do.

Just wondering, you know, simple things even you should be able to
figure out like how newsgroups work. You not knowing is par for the
course for you. My only purpose in responding to the bullshit you post
is knowing to a certainity I'll be able to make you dance... for
everyone's enjoyment. You never disappoint.

 

[Adam Albright]

Then you continue to prove just how blind you are. I took a break from you
idiots.

Somebody is "blind" when they see? Typical Justin post. You drown in
your own bullshit every day.

 

[Adam Albright]

Here's a FACT, I never changed my story.

You changed the story in your decrepit mind. You're just an old f@ck who's
life is running out and you've got nothing better to do then spit and hiss
to make up for your life's shortcomings.

You can't even insult people properly. Everybody's life is "running
out" since nobody can stop time from marching on. Well, maybe I should
ask you first, you're not aging? A better comment would be you refuse
to grow up.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:24:52 -0700, Justin wrote:
[snip drivel]

What was your dumb point again?

That you act/present yourself as a Zealot and troll.

Classic bypass! Typical way to not address the issue. What's the mater,
you have no way to backup your claims?

ALL OS' have bugs. Bugs that get fixed over years of time. ALL OF THEM.
Yet you and adam make claims that they should be perfect. Based on what?
No OS' ever has been perfect out of the gate.

More Justin double talk. I never said or would expect any OS to be
perfect. I simply pointed out you as usual keep talking out of both
sides of your mouth at once. You are on record claiming Vista is
"ready" and also saying as released it has 500 known bugs which proves
it wasn't ready for public release and those bugs will surely interfer
with the proper functioning of Vista for many people. Again you play
the role of fool so well kid. Again, you confirm the truth of the
title of this thread. You're just a Microsoft zealot quick to make
excuses for pushing Vista out the door regardless how "ready" it was
for release.

 

[Adam Albright]

I never said you did but it's good to know you completely misunderstood the
point.

I've read over a hundred of your posts and you haven't managed to make
a point on any topic yet. Keep trying.

 

[Adam Albright]

Very good, now grab someone with at least a 6th grade education to help you
out. In the meantime I'll give you some clues.

You stated:
"It couldn't mean that a database is being backed up, or someone is copying
a large file the server"

You already know that's not true because:
"without doing anything"
"mostly likely"

Then of course there's the fail safe:
"If you want to test it then"

Now put aside at least an hour or two and think as hard as possible. Also
note where the original question was coming from. You have a REAL BAD habit
of not qualifying the person before making wild ASSumptions.

Look at the title of this thread kid. I changed it to something more
appropriate.

 

[Justin]

You can't even insult people properly. Everybody's life is "running
out" since nobody can stop time from marching on. Well, maybe I should
ask you first, you're not aging? A better comment would be you refuse
to grow up.

Hahaha! Leave it to adam to not understand.

 

[Justin]

Wrong, MS released a PACKAGE - that package included drivers that MS
provided to the people that purchased the PACKAGE.

Your issue is that you don't believe that MS should be held accountable
for crappy drivers MS PROVIDED TO CUSTOMERS and I believe they should.

Wow, how many times did we go around that circle? I already stated this. I
think you're wrong and you think you're right. We can go around again if
you like?

 

[Justin]

No, but they could at least have waited until they figured what was wrong
with the network disk operations.

That's certainly your opinion. As a business I don't have this problem. As
a home user I don't have this problem. How many home users need to access
another machine? Of them what percentage actually have this problem?

If 1,000 people reported this problem. That's a small bug. Yet if you saw
1,000 reports you would flip your lid.

How big is a small bug? How small is a big bug? Opinions. Subjective.

 

[Justin]

You are on record claiming Vista is
"ready" and also saying as released it has 500 known bugs which proves
it wasn't ready for public release

Wow, the more you keep repeating this and NOT understanding it only proves
how ignorant you are.

Go ahead adam, say it yet again.

If you think 500 bugs is not ready then how was ANY OTHER OS ready? You
claim I'm doubt talking which is false when in fact you are biggest double
talker here.


Justin - Vista has 500 bugs and is ready.

adam - No Justin it's not ready.

Justin - So you're saying it can't have bugs and be ready?

adam - No.

Justin - Then you're saying it can have bugs and be ready?

adam - No.


The problem here is all you do is disagree without actually saying anything
at all. Is the problem IN YOUR HEAD the fact that the magic number is 500?
How many bugs do you think OSX has had in it's lifetime? Yet alone 10.4
specifically. I think you have no clue as to how many bugs any other OS has
had and you're completely talking out your rear. Hundreds of megs of
updates to ALL OS'. Figure it out. If you can.

 

[DanS]

That's certainly your opinion. As a business I don't have this
problem. As a home user I don't have this problem.

Yes, since you don't have the problem it is non-existant ?

How many home
users need to access another machine?

I think the percentage is more than you think.

Of them what percentage actually have this problem?

Who knows.

If 1,000 people reported this problem. That's a small bug. Yet if
you saw 1,000 reports you would flip your lid.

There have been many questions about it posted here, and acknowledged by
MS.

How big is a small bug? How small is a big bug? Opinions.
Subjective.

I'm even going there.

 

[Nina DiBoy]

You just keep showing us your ignorance. Drivers are not apart of the OS
but a luxury that are even included.

[snipped reply that shows you missed the point, as above]

You just keep showing your MS Zealotry - The Drivers are part of the
PACKAGE I BOUGHT FROM MS.

Like it or not, without ANY drivers it would be worthless. They just
rushed the release and people suffer for it.

Well, historically MS drivers suck. Usually 3rd party drivers are
supposed to be better. However in the case of Vista, they all suck
because the 3rd parties responsible for the drivers for their hardware
are dragging their arses, and MS has really botched the logo program, so
lots of items that do not work with Vista are getting logos anyway.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any
of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Leythos]

Well, historically MS drivers suck. Usually 3rd party drivers are
supposed to be better. However in the case of Vista, they all suck
because the 3rd parties responsible for the drivers for their hardware
are dragging their arses, and MS has really botched the logo program, so
lots of items that do not work with Vista are getting logos anyway.

Which brings US to the point that Vista was released too early.

 

[Justin]

Yes, since you don't have the problem it is non-existant ?

Only you would come to such a conclusion. Not I.

I think the percentage is more than you think.

I'm sure you would.

Who knows.

Exactly. You don't. So your comments on the subject when it comes to Vista
"in general" are irrelevant.

There have been many questions about it posted here, and acknowledged by
MS.

Acknowledgement is not the issue nor was it the point. The numbers where an
example to the point. As usual you either can't get it or choose not to.

This is not a show stopping bug that required the delay of the launch. You
even admit above to not knowing how many people actually have this problem.
As my example illustrated, you see X amount of bug reports and in your small
box world you THINK it's a huge problem when in fact it's not.

Now this is where you troll away with the lame theory that just because I
claim something is not a HUGE BUG that it's not a bug at all. That's
pointless and ridiculous.

I'm even going there.

Ok.

 

[Justin]

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:04:10 -0700, Justin wrote:

I didn't see anything on the box that said "drivers may not be
optional for use with Vista, even though we won't mention it during
the install, during the use, or any other time".
Of course you didn’t. Because they are operational, just not 100%.
Did you see something on that box that claimed the drivers were 100%
functional? No, you did not.
And there is the entire problem you have with the world.

I expected the product I purchased to be 100%, not to be 85%, not to be
lacking right out of the box. I expected it to be optimal right out of
the box, only needing a few tweeks to change a few small things.
You just keep showing us your ignorance. Drivers are not apart of the
OS
but a luxury that are even included.

[snipped reply that shows you missed the point, as above]

You just keep showing your MS Zealotry - The Drivers are part of the
PACKAGE I BOUGHT FROM MS.

Like it or not, without ANY drivers it would be worthless. They just
rushed the release and people suffer for it.

Well, historically MS drivers suck.

No argument there!

Usually 3rd party drivers are supposed to be better. However in the case
of Vista, they all suck because the 3rd parties responsible for the
drivers for their hardware are dragging their arses
Exactly!

and MS has really botched the logo program, so lots of items that do not
work with Vista are getting logos anyway.

I haven’t read up "much" on that. Some of the apps like Roxio that have
been claimed by MS to work don’t work well but then again I would never use
such an app. Roxio is horrible even on XP. Although some people love it.
To each there own.