I suggest a new buisness strategy.

[MICHAEL]

At this point it's all anecdotal. And what does one expect to see in Vista
ng's but problems? What does one see when one reads the Ubuntu ng? Uh,
problems? The Mac forums on the Apple site? Uh, problems? If one were to
base one's opinion of Vista soley on what's posted in this, and other, Vista
ng's, then I guess one should not read the Ubuntu ng or the Mac forums
because then one would be running, oh, I don't know... OS/2? Because surely
there's enough "growing evidence" in those other forums that those OS's have
problems too.

As to folks who "... had no interest in trying Linux before." Why are they
changing now? Are they not happy with what they currently have? XP no longer
floats their boat? (Well... if they're running '98, sure, I can see why some
flavor of nix might interest them... some folks don't want to upgrade their
hw to run Vista. But I don't know that their '98 style rig is going to run,
say, Ubuntu, all that great either.) I think most folks, who are not
computer geeks, that try Ubuntu or some other flavor of nix are going to be
sorely surprised when they run into their first configuration issue. Those
folks who are bitching and moaning about Vista and move to Ubuntu? Look for
them in the Ubuntu ng not long after they've made the move.

That said, I've tried various nix distros. The latest being Ubuntu 7.04 and
the release that preceeded it. I had enough "issues" that I am not actively
running Ubuntu on anything here right now. I'm all for competition. There's
nothing that would tickle me more than having a nix distro that works
seamlessly for me. Haven't found it yet. Sure, there are folks that have
great experiences with Ubuntu or other nix distros. Hurray for them! I mean
it, too. Not being sarcastic in the least. And... when all is said and
done... I'll stick with Vista. Works for me. Is it without problems? Heck
no! Are they problems with which I can deal? Heck yes!

Lang,

Have you tried PCLinuxOS? I like it more than Ubuntu.
I believe this is the distro to keep an eye on. While Ubuntu
has come a long way and works well, I actually think PCLinuxOS
is a bit better. It has the simplicity and user friendliness
of Ubuntu, but IMO does it better.

I'm using it right now on a VMware virtual machine, and also on
a partition on one of my other desktops. This post is coming
from the vm.

I'm certainly not ready to leave Windows, but some of these
Linux flavors have improved significantly. While I always hear
many users say that Linux is for the geeks and those that like
to mess around, I disagree. If all a user wants to do is surf
the web, write emails, IM- PCLinuxOS or Ubuntu are very capable
of doing all that and more.

Try it.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/


Take care,

Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

Lang,

Have you tried PCLinuxOS? I like it more than Ubuntu. I believe this is the distro to keep
an eye on. While Ubuntu has come a long way and works well, I actually think PCLinuxOS is a
bit better. It has the simplicity and user friendliness of Ubuntu, but IMO does it better.

I'm using it right now on a VMware virtual machine, and also on a partition on one of my
other desktops. This post is coming from the vm.

I'm certainly not ready to leave Windows, but some of these Linux flavors have improved
significantly. While I always hear many users say that Linux is for the geeks and those
that like to mess around, I disagree. If all a user wants to do is surf the web, write
emails, IM- PCLinuxOS or Ubuntu are very capable of doing all that and more.

Try it. http://www.pclinuxos.com/

Oh, some related tutorials on setting up some Linux
flavors as a Windows replacement and a "perfect desktop";

http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_pclinuxos_2007
<quote>
This tutorial shows how you can set up a PCLinuxOS 2007 desktop that is a full-fledged
replacement for a Windows desktop, i.e. that has all the software that people need to do the
things they do on their Windows desktops. The advantages are clear: you get a secure system
without DRM restrictions that works even on old hardware, and the best thing is: all software
comes free of charge.

I found that PCLinuxOS is really easy to install and use, and it's a real alternative. Up to
now I was thinking that Ubuntu is the best Linux desktop distribution, but I'm not so sure
anymore now that I've used PCLinuxOS. I'm really impressed.
</quote>


http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu7.04

http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntustudio7.04

http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_mandriva_2007_spring_free

http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_debian_etch

 

[Charlie Tame]

Have you tried PCLinuxOS? I like it more than Ubuntu.
I believe this is the distro to keep an eye on. While Ubuntu
has come a long way and works well, I actually think PCLinuxOS
is a bit better. It has the simplicity and user friendliness
of Ubuntu, but IMO does it better.

I tried Ubuntu on here and Kubuntu and had some seiour issues with both.
Debian however keeps on going and I reckon I'd call that stable while
the others ar "Beta" Course it could be me...

I'm using it right now on a VMware virtual machine, and also on
a partition on one of my other desktops. This post is coming
from the vm.

I'm certainly not ready to leave Windows, but some of these
Linux flavors have improved significantly. While I always hear
many users say that Linux is for the geeks and those that like
to mess around, I disagree. If all a user wants to do is surf
the web, write emails, IM- PCLinuxOS or Ubuntu are very capable
of doing all that and more.

Try it.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/

Actually I had planned to do just that.


To be honest I have not yet got any GFX acceleration set up, I think
that is the biggest nuisance with Linux and if NVidia and the kernal
teams got their act together I think it would make a huge difference to
the popularity. Assuming driver install works in Windows it works fine,
with Linux you could never describe it as "Seamless"

Charlie

 

[MICHAEL]

I tried Ubuntu on here and Kubuntu and had some seiour issues with both. Debian however
keeps on going and I reckon I'd call that stable while the others ar "Beta" Course it
could be me...





Actually I had planned to do just that.


To be honest I have not yet got any GFX acceleration set up, I think that is the biggest
nuisance with Linux and if NVidia and the kernal teams got their act together I think it
would make a huge difference to the popularity. Assuming driver install works in Windows it
works fine, with Linux you could never describe it as "Seamless"

Here's a Linux flavor that I am getting ready to try on
another desktop.

http://supergamer.org/
The Super Gamer is a Live DVD that was previously based on the core of PClinuxOS. Now it is
based on the core of VectorLinux, put together by Darin. Darin started out making the Super
Gamer for his own, and some friends' enjoyment.
Soon others got a copy and decided they liked it.
Some jumped onboard to help test and develop. Then releases were made which were geared up
towards requested hardware. The Super Gamer is optimized for a gaming computer environment,
with some tweaks to help speed up running from the LiveDVD. Extra games were added along with
some demos of proprietary games. All Games are Linux Native. Users wishing to run Windows
Native games, may install Wine or a Wine related application such as Cedega.

 

[Frank]

It's
only a matter of time before the Vista virus will be spread across the world
and these people are looking for alternatives.

"The Vista virus"...what are you talking about?
Please explain.
Frank

 

[Mr. Happy]

"The Vista virus"...what are you talking about?
Please explain.
Frank

Maybe my sig will help you understand?

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

 

[GO]

At this point it's all anecdotal. And what does one expect to see in
Vista ng's but problems? What does one see when one reads the Ubuntu
ng? Uh, problems? The Mac forums on the Apple site? Uh, problems? If
one were to base one's opinion of Vista soley on what's posted in
this, and other, Vista ng's, then I guess one should not read the
Ubuntu ng or the Mac forums because then one would be running, oh, I
don't know... OS/2? Because surely there's enough "growing evidence"
in those other forums that those OS's have problems too.

I think you've missed my point. Of course people are here to report
problems with Vista, but what I was trying to get across is that there is
sharp increase with people who are unhappy with MS/Vista. Yes, the same
thing happened when XP was released but it seems to be on a much bigger
scale with Vista.

As to folks who "... had no interest in trying Linux before." Why are
they changing now? Are they not happy with what they currently have?
XP no longer floats their boat?

I thought I made that clear before. They are happy with what they have now
(2k/XP) but they aren't happy with what the future is going to bring. It's
only a matter of time before the Vista virus will be spread across the world
and these people are looking for alternatives. I'm guessing you're thinking
right now, why don't they just stick with XP or 2k? That's fine for now,
but it's only a matter of time before developers stop supporting hardware on
these platforms. Also, I only made mention of this fact just as a personal
example of pretty much every day users who never had an inkling of an idea
to switch to something else but are now starting to look for alternatives.

 

[Alias]

Maybe my sig will help you understand?

Doubtful, as Frankie boy's ability to understand is limited to third
grade humor.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Do I really have to?

So you don't know what it is you're posting?

I thought I saw in a previous post stating that you're
a genius...can't you figure it out?

Sorry but mind reading is not one of my talents and obviously mental
telepathy is not one of yours.
Either you're just another linux loser troll spreading some FUD you've
just made up or else you have no idea what you're talking about?
Which is it?
Well...?
Frank

 

[Frank]

Frank wrote:




Maybe my sig will help you understand?

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

So neither you doris, nor go, nor the reference article can explain what
the "Vista virus" go refers to is?
FUD is my guess.
Frank

 

[Alias]

So neither you doris, nor go, nor the reference article can explain what
the "Vista virus" go refers to is?
FUD is my guess.
Frank

Maybe this will help: Vista *is* a virus. Get it now, Mr Mensa (LOL!)?

Alias

 

[GO]

"The Vista virus"...what are you talking about?
Please explain.
Frank

Do I really have to? I thought I saw in a previous post stating that you're
a genius...can't you figure it out?

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

Maybe this will help: Vista *is* a virus. Get it now, Mr Mensa (LOL!)?

Alias

Jealousy, envy and FUD all seem to be a way of like for you.
Jealousy and envy are a cancer that will eventually destroy you...if
they haven't already done so.
FUD on the other hand is the ultimate defensive weapon desperately
employed by the defenseless.
Frank

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:



Jealousy, envy and FUD all seem to be a way of like for you.
Jealousy and envy are a cancer that will eventually destroy you...if
they haven't already done so.
FUD on the other hand is the ultimate defensive weapon desperately
employed by the defenseless.
Frank

Took you long enough to get it, Mr Mensa. It didn't take long for you to
hurl your usual ill informed insults, though.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Took you long enough to get it, Mr Mensa. It didn't take long for you to
hurl your usual ill informed insults, though.

Alias

hahaha...I see.
So the "Vista virus" is nothing but FUD because of jealousy and envy and
delivered on the plane of desperation...lol!
Wonderful!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Fine....if I must...

First, it was a jab to provoke...and it worked.
Second, it was hinting at the old joke that referred to Windows (95 I think)
as a virus.
Third, it was a metaphor for how Windows is distributed. It's damn near
next to impossible to get a computer without Windows installed. So as
people buy new computers Windows spreads.
And finally it was referencing to how prone Windows is to viruses and it's
only a matter of time before Vista shines through in the same light
(although it'd be nice if I was wrong).

lol...just as I suspected!
That wasn't difficult was it?
And I'm sure your post draws rave reviews and many kudos at open sores
dungeons.
Frank

 

[Alias]

hahaha...I see.
So the "Vista virus" is nothing but FUD because of jealousy and envy and
delivered on the plane of desperation...lol!
Wonderful!
Frank

No, it's an affectionate, nostalgic nick name

Alias

 

[Adam Albright]

Do I really have to? I thought I saw in a previous post stating that you're
a genius...can't you figure it out?

Since you're new, you need to understand where Frank is coming from.
He's told us he had a awful time with getting Vista to work, yet he
likes to pass himself off as a Windows expert. In fact he told us he
had to hire consultants for his "business" and together it took them
six months before they got Vista to work right. Frank has told us he
runs some "marketing" company, then quickly adds he runs it from his
home, probably some MLM or chain letter scam he operates off his
kitchen table. I guess it gets kind of crowded with all those
"consultants" running around in Frank's house which if he's lucky is
probably some double wide trailer in hillbilly country.

Frank also used to add goofy comments to all his posts like smirk. Yet
he tries to pass himself off as some accomplished business person,
which I guess explains why he needs to try to pick fights with anybody
that is even a little critical of Windows. Odd, considering it was
Frank that volunteered it took him six months to "master" Vista to a
point it actually worked for him.

The truth is Frank is nothing but your typical closed-mined hot-headed
little troll that hates with a passion anybody that dares to mention
Linux or points out Windows flaws. Frank enjoys spreading lies and
trying to fake being very clever and knowledgeable. Still we all like
Frank, he's fun to play with and kick around like all trolls are. ;-)

 

[GO]

So you don't know what it is you're posting?

I thought I saw in a previous post stating that you're
a genius...can't you figure it out?

Sorry but mind reading is not one of my talents and obviously mental
telepathy is not one of yours.
Either you're just another linux loser troll spreading some FUD you've
just made up or else you have no idea what you're talking about?
Which is it?
Well...?
Frank

Fine....if I must...

First, it was a jab to provoke...and it worked.
Second, it was hinting at the old joke that referred to Windows (95 I think)
as a virus.
Third, it was a metaphor for how Windows is distributed. It's damn near
next to impossible to get a computer without Windows installed. So as
people buy new computers Windows spreads.
And finally it was referencing to how prone Windows is to viruses and it's
only a matter of time before Vista shines through in the same light
(although it'd be nice if I was wrong).

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:


--------deleted some of the best lies and distortions ever posted-----

I used to think alias was the biggest and best liar in this ng.
But hold on, never thought a drunken moron (oh, sorry 170 iq genius)
fool like you could make up such a bs story!
Great job...even though it's far from the truth.
Oh, btw, did you ever figure out how to get your upgrade copy of Vista
business running correctly...lol...seeing as how you have an iq of
170...an claim to be a computer genius...lol?
Frank