How to burn 777mb bin to CD?

N

noi

Sorry stupid question. I guess I wasn't paying attention and I have lots
of 700mb CDs. But I have a few 700mb+.bin files I want to burn to these
700mb CDs.

Do they make 800mb CDs I should buy or is there another way to
burn these .bin to these CDs?
 
N

noi

what made the .bin?
have you tried to .rar/.zip them, to reduce the size?

Thanks. The bin and cue were extracted from a .rar file. Don't remember
the packaging programs of the .rars. The .cue files are standard.
 
J

JAD

there is always the DVD burner option


You can burn them to a CD-R or a CD-RW with:

-Alcohol 120% - My favorite, excellent software, easy and yet very advanced
(burns ISO, BIN/CUE, CCD, CDI, BWT files!):
http://cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/alcohol120.cfm

- BlindWrite - easy to use:
http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/blindwrite_suite.cfm

- FireBurner - also very good, a single .EXE file!
http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/fireburner.cfm

- BurnAtOnce - A handy and FREE tool for burning .bin/.cue/.iso. Easy to
use!
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/burnatonce.cfm

- Nero - many of you have this, but it can't handle all image files:
http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/nero.cfm

- CDRWin - This is the original BIN/CUE software:
http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_applications/cdrwin.cfm


You can also mount image files as virtual CD-ROM drives using

Alcohol - http://cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/alcohol120.cfm

Daemon Tools -
http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/daemon_tools.cfm

There are also several softwares you can use to exploit & manipulate BIN/CUE
files in various ways:

CDMage - http://www.geocities.com/cdmage/
IsoBuster - http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/
 
D

Dances With Crows

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.] On Fri, 03 Jun
2005 16:05:32 GMT, noi staggered into the Black Sun and said:
Thanks. The bin and cue were extracted from a .rar file. Don't
remember the packaging programs of the .rars. The .cue files are
standard.

If these things are VCDs, then you can burn 800M to a 700M CD-R blank.
VCDs fit more data onto a blank by leaving some of the error correction
information off. Check to see if it's a VCD by running file on the .bin
.. If file says it's an MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 file, it's probably a VCD or
SVCD. If so, just use cdrdao (or even cdrecord) to burn the CD-R from
the TOC file (or CUE file.) HTH,
 
F

Fuckknuckle

noi said:
Sorry stupid question. I guess I wasn't paying attention and I have lots
of 700mb CDs. But I have a few 700mb+.bin files I want to burn to these
700mb CDs.

Do they make 800mb CDs I should buy or is there another way to
burn these .bin to these CDs?

zip it or use a file splitter and go with 2 cd's.
i've always preferred winrar, but the other day i discovered that
winzip will compress a divx dvdrip a LOT faster than winrar
 
W

wooducoodu

74min 650mb and 80min 700mb discs actually hold about 740 and 800mb, about
100mb is held in reserve for error correction. if you're burning some type
of video CD error correction isn't used and you can burn the full capacity
of the disc. otherwise you can buy 90 or 99min discs but not everyone has
them and theyre reliablility is questionable or burn to DVD.
 
I

Imitheos

wooducoodu said:
74min 650mb and 80min 700mb discs actually hold about 740 and 800mb, about
100mb is held in reserve for error correction. if you're burning some type
of video CD error correction isn't used and you can burn the full capacity
of the disc. otherwise you can buy 90 or 99min discs but not everyone has
them and theyre reliablility is questionable or burn to DVD.

Excuse me if i am wrong, but 777mb .bin/.cue image is not big for a
normal 80min cd.

A cd sector is 2352 bytes (+subchannel which doesn't concern us)
2048 bytes are used for data and the other are used for error
correction.

80min * 60 sec/min * 75 sectors /sec = 360,000 Sectors for a 80min cd
360,000 Sectors * 2048 bytes/sec = 737,280,000 bytes aka 700MB
360,000 Sectors * 2352 bytes/sec = 846,720,000 bytes

That is why when you rip a VCD/SVCD you get a mpeg file that is larger
than 700mb as Dances with crows mentioned.

If i don't have them all wrong in my mind you can simply write this in
the cd.

..bin is a raw sectors image (for example like an iso file)
you cannot zip/rar it and the burn it. it will be unusable.

you can burn it either with cdrecord or cdrdao.
I think the commands are:
cdrecord -dev=DEVICE -v -dao cuefile=image.cue
cdrdao write --device DEVICE image.cue

most of the .bin/.cue images are MODE1/2 2352 ones
you can verify that by "cat"ing the .cue file (it is a text file)

I am sorry for my long post.
 
N

noi

Excuse me if i am wrong, but 777mb .bin/.cue image is not big for a normal
80min cd.

A cd sector is 2352 bytes (+subchannel which doesn't concern us) 2048
bytes are used for data and the other are used for error correction.

80min * 60 sec/min * 75 sectors /sec = 360,000 Sectors for a 80min cd
360,000 Sectors * 2048 bytes/sec = 737,280,000 bytes aka 700MB 360,000
Sectors * 2352 bytes/sec = 846,720,000 bytes

That is why when you rip a VCD/SVCD you get a mpeg file that is larger
than 700mb as Dances with crows mentioned.

If i don't have them all wrong in my mind you can simply write this in the
cd.

.bin is a raw sectors image (for example like an iso file) you cannot
zip/rar it and the burn it. it will be unusable.

you can burn it either with cdrecord or cdrdao. I think the commands are:
cdrecord -dev=DEVICE -v -dao cuefile=image.cue cdrdao write --device
DEVICE image.cue

most of the .bin/.cue images are MODE1/2 2352 ones you can verify that by
"cat"ing the .cue file (it is a text file)

I am sorry for my long post.


Many thanks to all who replied and a most excellent explanation on CD
sectors.

You and wooducoodu are 100% correct that 777mb fits on a 700mb.
I mentioned in another reply to this thread, I was suddenly having
problems reading new CDs I burned which was working before. I thought
it might be an oversized .bin files.

My CD read errors were caused by a second DVD Rom I had installed in
my system. This 1st generation DVD-R had never read CDs but did play
DVDs. When I removed this second DVD-R my read problems with the
primary DVD-RW device stopped.

My 777mb .bin burned to 700mb are okay and are read without problems.
I add these were data CDs not multimedia and 777mb .bin fit on the 700mb
CD.

Many thanks.
 

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