genuine validation failure

[obokbqumu]

Wrong on both accounts - it's not MS's fault that the OP bought a
pirated copy and can't use it.

Now one said it is. But its not the OPs fault that they were
victimized by a criminal. Yet MS goes after the victim not the
criminal, so it is MS's fault for doing that. Blaming the victim,
instead of going after the criminal!

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[Leythos]

Now one said it is. But its not the OPs fault that they were
victimized by a criminal. Yet MS goes after the victim not the
criminal, so it is MS's fault for doing that. Blaming the victim,
instead of going after the criminal!

Wrong again, MS does not GO AFTER the victim, they just don't activate a
pirated copy of their software, which is very reasonable. MS doesn't
care who or why when it comes to a pirated copy, and neither should you,
pirated is pirated and MS should not be expected to make a pirated copy
a valid copy - it's the purchasers ENTIRE responsibility to ensure that
the purchase is valid and to resolve it on their own.

The victim is not blamed, only limited from validation on a Pirated copy
of the software, which would be the same action for anyone else, so it
really isn't MS doing anything except protecting their own license and
letting the owner know that their copy is pirated - again, it's up to
the purchaser to resolve the problem, not the product vendors.

 

[kurttrail]

Wrong again, MS does not GO AFTER the victim, they just don't activate a
pirated copy of their software, which is very reasonable.

ROFL! It is reasonable to use PA to blame the victim, and to get
restitution from the victim, instead of going after the real pirate.

You just can't hear yourself! It's amazing!

MS doesn't
care who or why when it comes to a pirated copy, and neither should you,

I care because I believe in justice. And MS's cares, because of
their greed. And its the little guy that cares because he is the one
paying for the crime of another TWICE!

You care since its a human being getting screwed by piracy and
technology, and I bet that just gets you hard, when you think about
it.

pirated is pirated and MS should not be expected to make a pirated copy
a valid copy - it's the purchasers ENTIRE responsibility to ensure that
the purchase is valid and to resolve it on their own.

No, MS expects to prey on the victim, instead of getting its
retribution from the REAL criminal! In my book that makes MS the
accomplice after the fact of the pirate!

The victim is not blamed,

Paying for the crime of another is being blamed for it in my book, but
I'm not a Microsoft Partner, and my BIAS is definitely in the favor of
the little guy victim of the software pirates, the ones that sold him
XP. The Pirate, and MS is pirating the little guying too!

only limited from validation on a Pirated copy
of the software, which would be the same action for anyone else, so it
really isn't MS doing anything except protecting their own license and
letting the owner know that their copy is pirated - again, it's up to
the purchaser to resolve the problem, not the product vendors.

Again, IT IS UP TO THE VICTIM TO RESOLVE THE PIRACY OF ANOTHER!

You are totally depraved, and beyond redemption!

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[nubian]

Wrong again, MS does not GO AFTER the victim,

Sure they do...

they just don't activate a
pirated copy of their software,

This is how they go after the customer.

which is very reasonable.
YOU just stated that you think it is reasonable for M$ to go after the
customer for a stolen copy. (Note to Leythos, please remove head from
arse!)

MS doesn't
care who or why when it comes to a pirated copy, and neither should you,

As the customer, I should not care about good customer service?!?

pirated is pirated and MS should not be expected to make a pirated copy
a valid copy - it's the purchasers ENTIRE responsibility to ensure that
the purchase is valid and to resolve it on their own.

Yes, not only abandon the customer in their time of need with an M$
product, but treat them as treating a criminal in the process.

The victim is not blamed,

PA blames the victim.

only limited from validation on a Pirated copy

 

[kurttrail]

Sure they do...

This is how they go after the customer.

which is very reasonable.
YOU just stated that you think it is reasonable for M$ to go after the
customer for a stolen copy. (Note to Leythos, please remove head from
arse!)

As the customer, I should not care about good customer service?!?

Yes, not only abandon the customer in their time of need with an M$
product, but treat them as treating a criminal in the process.

PA blames the victim.

only limited from validation on a Pirated copy

Did you know that your posts in this thread are being pulled from MS's
newsgroup server, but the Pro-MS victimizing the victim post stay on
their server?

What is MS afraid for people to see? THE TRUTH!

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[Leythos]

ROFL! It is reasonable to use PA to blame the victim, and to get
restitution from the victim, instead of going after the real pirate.

You just can't hear yourself! It's amazing!

The victim has no expectation that MS should permit them to continue to
use a pirated copy. The victim would be victimizing MS if they used a
pirated version while knowing it was pirated.

You just can't hear yourself hating MS, amazing.

 

[Leythos]

YOU just stated that you think it is reasonable for M$ to go after the
customer for a stolen copy.

Wrong, you just read it that was since you have to have a reason to
reply and to hate.

MS didn't go after the victim.

MS doesn't owe the victim anything.

 

[Leythos]

THE TRUTH!

The truth is that MS doesn't owe anyone with a pirated copy of the
software anything, nada, not one thing is OWED by MS to the pirate or
anyone sold/given a pirated copy.

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

In

You are I think referring to kuttrail and he is not obsessed; and only hates
along with probably everyone else; the intrusive way MS has implemented
their flawed and confusing activation process.

MS should implement a user friendly pricing policy that allows at least the
retail version for use on two computers and a reasonable license for
additional computers.

Bullshit.

MS has a product that is in demand, and it's priced appropriately.

That's life in a capitalistic society, m'man.

Love it or leave it.

 

[jaydeflix]

If anyone knows the naive and clueless person now

responsible of monitoring the newsgroups, please
tell them to get a second opinion

I thought MVPs were supposed to have some internal road to Microsoft to
deal with stuff like this, rather than just throwing it out into a
newsgroup in hopes that someone will see it......

 

[obokbqumu]

The victim has no expectation that MS should permit them to continue to
use a pirated copy. The victim would be victimizing MS if they used a
pirated version while knowing it was pirated.

No. The pirate victimized MS by selling a copy without MS's
permission. But instead of seeking retribution on the pirate, MS goes
after the other victim of the pirate.

You just can't hear yourself hating MS, amazing.

LOL! I don't hate MS. I just love individuals more than some
soul-less proven predatory monopoly.

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[obokbqumu]

The truth is that MS doesn't owe anyone with a pirated copy of the
software anything, nada, not one thing is OWED by MS to the pirate or
anyone sold/given a pirated copy.

The truth is MS rather use PA to seek retribution from the victim of
the real pirate, than go after that pirate.

And you get your rocks off on that.

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[kurttrail]

Bullshit.

MS has a product that is in demand, and it's priced appropriately.

Please continue to use IE! Never mind the zero-day worms and virus!
IE is in demand of all the malware writers out there!

That's life in a capitalistic society, m'man.

Yep, corporations feed of the misery of its customers.

Love it or leave it.

Or give'em hell over it! That is life in a free speech society!

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[obokbqumu]

I thought MVPs were supposed to have some internal road to Microsoft to
deal with stuff like this, rather than just throwing it out into a
newsgroup in hopes that someone will see it......

Not much more, than the rest of us. MS is in the midst of an internal
investigation over this at the moment. Wasting more of their time and
effort over me. It's really silly.

But MS is a professional censor for its masters, the Chinese gov't.
They censor pro-democracy speech on MSN for the Chinese. MS is
anti-Democracy.

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[kurttrail]

Wrong, you just read it that was since you have to have a reason to
reply and to hate.

MS didn't go after the victim.

MS doesn't owe the victim anything.

And neither does the victim of the pirate owe MS anything. The
criminal is the pirate who sold the pirated copy, not his/her victim!

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[Leythos]

No. The pirate victimized MS by selling a copy without MS's
permission. But instead of seeking retribution on the pirate, MS goes
after the other victim of the pirate.

You really are twisted, and you need to look at the real actions:

1) Lamer sells ignorant purchaser a pirated copy of Windows XP
2) Ignorant purchaser tries to validate it - it fails

Microsoft DIDN'T GO AFTER THE Ignorant purchaser, the ignorant purchaser
tried to use a pirated copy and found that they could not, which is the
way it should be, pirated copies should not validate.

Microsoft didn't care about the Ignorant purchaser until they tried to
pirate a license and were refused a license for the pirated copy.

Like it or not, since MS didn't sell the ignorant user the OS, they are
not responsible for it being valid or not and have no obligation to make
it valid.

Your position would not stand up in any court or trial of any type.

Why don't you blame the real thief, the seller.

 

[kurttrail]

You really are twisted, and you need to look at the real actions:

1) Lamer sells ignorant purchaser a pirated copy of Windows XP

WRONG! The PIRATE sells stolen Copyrighted Material to an
unsuspecting individual. That crime has 2 victims, the individual,
and Microsoft.

The crime is software piracy, or IOW, criminal copyright infringement.

2) Ignorant purchaser tries to validate it - it fails

And then MS goes after the other VICTIM of the CRIMINAL, instead of
going after the actual CRIMINAL!

Microsoft DIDN'T GO AFTER THE Ignorant purchaser, the ignorant purchaser
tried to use a pirated copy and found that they could not, which is the
way it should be, pirated copies should not validate.

Sure MS goes after the other victim. That's what copy-protection
really is all about. Seeking retribution from the innocent because MS
is too greedy to spend money going after the REAL CRIMINAL1

Microsoft didn't care about the Ignorant purchaser until they tried to
pirate a license and were refused a license for the pirated copy.

Microsoft is going after the easy mark, the guy or gal that was the
unwitting victim of the CRIMINAL!

Like it or not, since MS didn't sell the ignorant user the OS, they are
not responsible for it being valid or not and have no obligation to make
it valid.

That's only because MS is a bunch of greedy bastards. Anyone with any
real morals would not be so cold-hearted as to blame the victim,
instead of the TRUE CRIMINAL!

Your position would not stand up in any court or trial of any type.

Who is arguing legally. Morally, MS is an accomplice after the fact
of the software pirate by blaming the victim.

Why don't you blame the real thief, the seller.

I do blame the thief, unlike you and the MS that blames the victim.

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