genuine validation failure

[Leythos]

Can someone find John Eddy and ask him how to deal with these
newsgroups. He was a thorn to the people that abused the newsgroups, but he
was intelligent and fair and did not do blanket censors of viable posters
that often post negative opinion and links about Microsoft.

Like it or not, MS does not have to permit retention of negative
material on THEIR servers. If you don't like what's happening then read
them from a different server, as Kurt is always able to post to a non-MS
server and get the message out.

I've not seen any posts from Kurt in days what provided anything
constructive to people seeking help.

 

[bobxodhzh]

Kurt, neither myself or MS want ANYONE to be victimized ever, but it's
not my fault and not MS's fault that the OP bought a system with an
installed pirated copy of XP. Neither I or MS should have to pay for the
OP's mistake.

No, what is your fault is that you want people once victimized, to
victimized yet again.

MS has the resources to go after software pirates, the individual
human being does not.

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[bobxodhzh]

Like it or not, MS does not have to permit retention of negative
material on THEIR servers.

ROFL! But by paying special attention to me, they just add
credibility to my criticism of Microsoft.

But hey, they have that right!

If you don't like what's happening then read
them from a different server, as Kurt is always able to post to a non-MS
server and get the message out.

You are so insane. You think in such black and white ways.

There are many ways to react to something one doesn't like, and
Michael chose his.

I've not seen any posts from Kurt in days what provided anything
constructive to people seeking help.

As usual you see only what you want to see.

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[keyboarder]

I've not seen any posts from Kurt in days what provided anything

constructive to people seeking help.

But in some of your exchanges with PCButts1 you said that you never look for
posts by names, you just look for threads that interest you. How would you
know if Kurt never provides constructive help if you never look for names?

 

[Plato]

I purchased a laptop last week used off ebay came with XP Pro installed (no
CD) went to run genuine validation and says VLK blocked microsoft wants $35
for support which I feel is wrong I do not feel I should pay for support for
something I had nothing to do with,will this prevent me from any difficulties
down road am able to do windows update all including SP2. I have 2 volume
licenses for XP but do not want to use one on this laptop is not necessary.

Well. My opinion is that when you buy used, the first step is to wipe
the drive clean and then install the OS you want to use fresh. So, it
doesn't matter if the existing OS is legit or not. One should start
fresh regardless.

 

[Leythos]

I've not seen any posts from Kurt in days what provided anything
constructive to people seeking help.

But in some of your exchanges with PCButts1 you said that you never look for
posts by names, you just look for threads that interest you. How would you
know if Kurt never provides constructive help if you never look for names?[/QUOTE]

Because I read threads, where I read/scan many of them, and there are
days when I just "mark as read" an entire group, but most days I scroll
down through ones where people as for help, reading them....

In the ones where it's obviously Kurt making a reply, as it is in about
anything dealing with licensing, he's never a help. Since I skim through
most of the threads, and since I never see anything constructive from
Kurt, it's a good assumption that he's not doing anything except playing
the game.

I stand by not looking for posters name, I don't even have Gravity setup
to show From/To, just Subject and Date, threaded by Unread Subjects.

 

[Leythos]

No, what is your fault is that you want people once victimized, to
victimized yet again.

Wrong, the victimization is that they have a invalid license for the
software that came with the system - single problem. Purchasing a
licenses is not a second victimization, it's a corrective action.

MS has the resources to go after software pirates, the individual
human being does not.

Get over yourself, MS doesn't owe the victim anything.

 

[bobxodhzh]

Wrong, the victimization is that they have a invalid license for the
software that came with the system - single problem.

No, the victimization was done by the software pirate, yet you hold
the human victim accountable for the actions of the software pirate!

Purchasing a
licenses is not a second victimization, it's a corrective action.

ROFL! Call it what you want, the human victim is being made to make
restitution for the actions of the software pirate.

Get over yourself, MS doesn't owe the victim anything.

Yet the human victim of the software pirate owes MS's!

You cannot see the depths of your treachery! You are slime.

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[Leythos]

No, the victimization was done by the software pirate, yet you hold
the human victim accountable for the actions of the software pirate!

So, you want to victimize the software vendor for the ignorance of the
purchaser and the dishonesty of the pirate - even you aren't that
stupid.

 

[Uncle Grumpy]

As usual you see only what you want to see.

The same could be said of anyone that is so obsessed with hating
everything MS, that he/she appears to do nothing but rant here.

I'd guess that very few people here heed your advice, or care what you
think.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I purchased a laptop last week used off ebay came with XP Pro installed (no
CD) went to run genuine validation and says VLK blocked microsoft wants $35
for support which I feel is wrong I do not feel I should pay for support for
something I had nothing to do with,will this prevent me from any difficulties
down road am able to do windows update all including SP2. I have 2 volume
licenses for XP but do not want to use one on this laptop is not necessary.

You're the one who purchased a laptop without bothering the ensure that
it came with a valid WinXP license. Why do you feel you're entitled to
free Microsoft support for a product that you have not purchased? Why
should Microsoft bail you out for your poor shopping skills? Microsoft
is a business, not a charity.

If the purchase of the laptop was supposed to be include a valid OS
license, file a complaint with eBay and your whichever of your local law
enforcement agencies that has jurisdiction over mail and/or Internet fraud.

In the meantime, buy yourself a legitimate copy of WinXP to replace the
pirated software you now have.



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chains and slavery? .... I know not what course others may take, but as
for me, give me liberty, or give me death! -Patrick Henry

 

[bobxodhzh]

So, you want to victimize the software vendor for the ignorance of the
purchaser and the dishonesty of the pirate - even you aren't that
stupid.

No, the software pirate victimized the copyright owner, stupid, by
distributing their copyrighted material without permission. It is
call criminal infringement, and MS should go after the CRIMINAL, NOT
THE EFFIN' VICTIM!

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[bobxodhzh]

The same could be said of anyone that is so obsessed with hating
everything MS, that he/she appears to do nothing but rant here.

LOL! Anyone that reads me regularly, and isn't a MicroSycophant, can
see that I try to be fair.

And I do love your exaggeration.

I'd guess that very few people here heed your advice, or care what you
think.

Too bad your guess is an uneducated one.

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[Michael Stevens]

In

The same could be said of anyone that is so obsessed with hating
everything MS, that he/she appears to do nothing but rant here.

I'd guess that very few people here heed your advice, or care what you
think.

You are I think referring to kuttrail and he is not obsessed; and only hates
along with probably everyone else; the intrusive way MS has implemented
their flawed and confusing activation process. The activation process model
MS uses was and is still very flawed and generates the source of probably
50% of the posts from users in these newsgroups. If it was well implemented,
their would not be the volume of posts generated by the mandatory
activation.
MS should implement a user friendly pricing policy that allows at least the
retail version for use on two computers and a reasonable license for
additional computers. Compelling users to purchase expensive full and
upgrade versions of Windows, when the options are becoming much more user
friendly and can be installed on almost all current hardware and equlievent
software can use current documents and files for nothing more than a
download. Even if you buy into a Linux distro's support option, you can
install on as many systems as you want and receive the same support.

It is a shame that Microsoft cannot see past their blinders and must feel
the need to censor obviously concerned people giving very real advice.
I don't agree with all of kurt's agenda, but he should not be given a
blanket censor like the current owner of the Microsoft newsgroups newsgroup
police Capitan has deemed prudent. I find it showing how uninformed, quick
to judgment, and total cloudlessness the current MS NG police captain has
vividly shown to anyone monitoring the current MS newsgroups. If anyone
knows the naive and clueless person now responsible of monitoring the
newsgroups, please tell them to get a second opinion
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[Leythos]

No, the software pirate victimized the copyright owner, stupid, by
distributing their copyrighted material without permission. It is
call criminal infringement, and MS should go after the CRIMINAL, NOT
THE EFFIN' VICTIM!

Any rational person can see that MS IS NOT GOING AFTER THE VICTIM, in
fact, MS didn't do anything to the victim, and an ethical victim would
not try to use the pirated software or to victimize MS by asking them to
make good on something they bought without checking on.

You've lost it Kurt.

 

[bobxodhzh]

Any rational person can see that MS IS NOT GOING AFTER THE VICTIM, in
fact, MS didn't do anything to the victim, and an ethical victim would
not try to use the pirated software or to victimize MS by asking them to
make good on something they bought without checking on.

You've lost it Kurt.

I've lost nothing. I'm not the one choosing the human victim to be
victimized twice by a software pirate for the sake of the almighty MS.
That is you, a known traitor to the Human Race.

You've lost your humanity, Lamething! Congratulations!

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[nubian]

bobxodhzh wrote:

No, the victimization was done by the software pirate, yet you hold
the human victim accountable for the actions of the software pirate!


ROFL! Call it what you want, the human victim is being made to make
restitution for the actions of the software pirate.


Yet the human victim of the software pirate owes MS's!

This is a perfect example where M$ is treating it's customers like
criminals!

 

[Leythos]

bobxodhzh wrote:


This is a perfect example where M$ is treating it's customers like
criminals!

MS doesn't have any part in the fact that a person bought a pirated copy
and has to deal with it. MS doesn't enter into the responsible party
area at all.

 

[nubian]

MS doesn't have any part in the fact that a person bought a pirated copy
and has to deal with it. MS doesn't enter into the responsible party
area at all.

MS is treating this customer like a crook, just like they do every
single other customer who uses any MS product with PA in it. PA treats
customers as criminals!

 

[Leythos]

MS is treating this customer like a crook, just like they do every
single other customer who uses any MS product with PA in it. PA treats
customers as criminals!

Wrong on both accounts - it's not MS's fault that the OP bought a
pirated copy and can't use it.