genuine validation failure

[Guest]

I purchased a laptop last week used off ebay came with XP Pro installed (no
CD) went to run genuine validation and says VLK blocked microsoft wants $35
for support which I feel is wrong I do not feel I should pay for support for
something I had nothing to do with,will this prevent me from any difficulties
down road am able to do windows update all including SP2. I have 2 volume
licenses for XP but do not want to use one on this laptop is not necessary.

 

[Guest]

Buyer beware! Many eBay sellers are selling PCs with a bogus
version of Windows XP Professional!

If you are getting the following error message when attempting to update:

Error Message: The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326904&Product=winxp

You'll have to purchase a new "Full Version" of Windows XP Professional
and perform a "Repair Install" using the new Windows XP Pro CD and Product Key
that comes with it. (You cannot simply change the Product Key)

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

 

[kurttrail]

I purchased a laptop last week used off ebay came with XP Pro
installed (no CD) went to run genuine validation and says VLK blocked
microsoft wants $35 for support which I feel is wrong I do not feel I
should pay for support for something I had nothing to do with,will
this prevent me from any difficulties down road am able to do windows
update all including SP2. I have 2 volume licenses for XP but do not
want to use one on this laptop is not necessary.

So you are comfortable using a pirated install, and don't want to turn
in the business (person) that sold you the laptop with the pirated OS?

Then don't worry about it.

If you need security updates, then you can get them by turning on Auto
Updates, but that is counter-intuitive to Common Sense Computing.

http://comsense.microscum.com

So if you want to update using Common Sense, then you can get any
Security Update you need for MS from the following page:

http://microscum.kurttrail.com/postsp2

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[Leythos]

I purchased a laptop last week used off ebay came with XP Pro installed (no
CD) went to run genuine validation and says VLK blocked microsoft wants $35
for support which I feel is wrong I do not feel I should pay for support for
something I had nothing to do with,will this prevent me from any difficulties
down road am able to do windows update all including SP2. I have 2 volume
licenses for XP but do not want to use one on this laptop is not necessary.

Since you don't have a valid license, as they didn't sell you the Volume
License Key, you don't have any recourse.

Your installed copy of XP is invalid and not properly licenses - you are
sadly out of luck.

 

[kurttrail]

Buyer beware! Many eBay sellers are selling PCs with a bogus
version of Windows XP Professional!

If you are getting the following error message when attempting to
update:

Error Message: The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326904&Product=winxp

You'll have to purchase a new "Full Version" of Windows XP
Professional
and perform a "Repair Install" using the new Windows XP Pro CD and
Product Key that comes with it. (You cannot simply change the
Product Key)

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

OK Carey, I'm going to try to correct you a little bit, in a nice way
for a change, and see if that works.

There is no need to buy a full retail copy of XP, if you been ripped off
by a pirate.

See the WGO "Genuine Windows Offer":

http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx?displaylang=en#GWinO

Q:What are the details of the genuine Windows offer?

A:To help customers who unknowingly purchased a counterfeit version of
Windows XP, Microsoft has created two genuine Windows offers for those
who qualify:

Complimentary offer: Microsoft will make a complimentary copy of Windows
XP available to customers who have been sold counterfeit Windows.
Customers will be required to submit a proof of purchase, the
counterfeit CD, and a counterfeit report with details of their purchase.
Only high-quality counterfeit Windows will qualify for the complimentary
offer.

Electronic License Key Offer: Microsoft will offer an alternative for
customers who find out via the WGA validation process that they are not
running genuine Windows, but do not qualify for, or choose not to take
advantage of, the complimentary offer. These customers will be able to
license a Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP online for a
price of $99 for Windows XP Home edition or $149 for Windows XP
Professional. The Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP will
include a new 25-character Product Key and a Windows Product Key Update
tool that will allow customers to convert their counterfeit copy to
genuine Windows XP electronically. To qualify, customers will be
required to submit an online counterfeit report.


Carey, if you are gonna suggest buying legit Windows, then at least give
the cheapest Microsoft option, that doesn't always require a repair
install.

I even give you permission to cut and paste anything you'd like from
this post, without giving me any credit, if it gets you to recommend
something different to someone already ripped off by a software pirate
having to buy the full retail version of XP.

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And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[kurttrail]

Since you don't have a valid license, as they didn't sell you the
Volume License Key, you don't have any recourse.

Your installed copy of XP is invalid and not properly licenses - you
are sadly out of luck.

Only if someone believe Liarthos!

There are many different options one may follow in reality. Read both
of my posts in this thread prior to this one, to see how "luck" doesn't
even play into the equation of the OP's options.

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[Jone Doe]

OK Carey, I'm going to try to correct you a little bit, in a nice way for
a change, and see if that works.

There is no need to buy a full retail copy of XP, if you been ripped off
by a pirate.

See the WGO "Genuine Windows Offer":

http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx?displaylang=en#GWinO

Q:What are the details of the genuine Windows offer?

A:To help customers who unknowingly purchased a counterfeit version of
Windows XP, Microsoft has created two genuine Windows offers for those who
qualify:

Complimentary offer: Microsoft will make a complimentary copy of Windows
XP available to customers who have been sold counterfeit Windows.
Customers will be required to submit a proof of purchase, the counterfeit
CD, and a counterfeit report with details of their purchase. Only
high-quality counterfeit Windows will qualify for the complimentary offer.

Electronic License Key Offer: Microsoft will offer an alternative for
customers who find out via the WGA validation process that they are not
running genuine Windows, but do not qualify for, or choose not to take
advantage of, the complimentary offer. These customers will be able to
license a Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP online for a price
of $99 for Windows XP Home edition or $149 for Windows XP Professional.
The Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP will include a new
25-character Product Key and a Windows Product Key Update tool that will
allow customers to convert their counterfeit copy to genuine Windows XP
electronically. To qualify, customers will be required to submit an online
counterfeit report.


Carey, if you are gonna suggest buying legit Windows, then at least give
the cheapest Microsoft option, that doesn't always require a repair
install.

I even give you permission to cut and paste anything you'd like from this
post, without giving me any credit, if it gets you to recommend something
different to someone already ripped off by a software pirate having to buy
the full retail version of XP.

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Self-anointed Moderator
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

did you miss this? "came with XP Pro installed (no
CD)"?

 

[Leythos]

Only if someone believe Liarthos!

There are many different options one may follow in reality. Read both
of my posts in this thread prior to this one, to see how "luck" doesn't
even play into the equation of the OP's options.

Either way, the OP is out of luck, one requires the CD to get a free
copy, other requires spending $150 - both require filling out a report
(which should not be an issue).

At the same time, OEM XP Prof + SP2 is goes for $149 most places, so you
could get it quicker.

 

[kurttrail]

OK Carey, I'm going to try to correct you a little bit, in a nice way
for a change, and see if that works.

There is no need to buy a full retail copy of XP, if you been ripped
off by a pirate.

See the WGO "Genuine Windows Offer":

http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx?displaylang=en#GWinO

Q:What are the details of the genuine Windows offer?

A:To help customers who unknowingly purchased a counterfeit version of
Windows XP, Microsoft has created two genuine Windows offers for those
who qualify:

Complimentary offer: Microsoft will make a complimentary copy of
Windows XP available to customers who have been sold counterfeit
Windows. Customers will be required to submit a proof of purchase, the
counterfeit CD, and a counterfeit report with details of their
purchase. Only high-quality counterfeit Windows will qualify for the
complimentary offer.

Electronic License Key Offer: Microsoft will offer an alternative for
customers who find out via the WGA validation process that they are
not running genuine Windows, but do not qualify for, or choose not to
take advantage of, the complimentary offer. These customers will be
able to license a Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP online
for a price of $99 for Windows XP Home edition or $149 for Windows XP
Professional. The Windows Genuine Advantage Kit for Windows XP will
include a new 25-character Product Key and a Windows Product Key
Update tool that will allow customers to convert their counterfeit
copy to genuine Windows XP electronically. To qualify, customers will
be required to submit an online counterfeit report.


Carey, if you are gonna suggest buying legit Windows, then at least
give the cheapest Microsoft option, that doesn't always require a
repair install.

I even give you permission to cut and paste anything you'd like from
this post, without giving me any credit, if it gets you to recommend
something different to someone already ripped off by a software pirate
having to buy the full retail version of XP.

Oh, if anyone is wonderin' why I'm trying being nice, it has nothing to
do with being recently censored en masse. I've had 3 Sierra Nevada
Porters and am now on my second Guinness. I've always been a
good-natured, overly-friendly, life-of-the-party kinda drunk, except
when someone is f*%king around with my women-folk! Then watch out!

Gettin' old sucks. I can remember a time when 5 beers is what I had
before driving to the bar, to really get hammered with shots & brews.
Ah, the good ole days!

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[kurttrail]

did you miss this? "came with XP Pro installed (no
CD)"?

Did you miss that the second part offered a cheaper option to buying a
legit license without needing the CD?

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[kurttrail]

Either way, the OP is out of luck, one requires the CD to get a free
copy, other requires spending $150 - both require filling out a report
(which should not be an issue).

At the same time, OEM XP Prof + SP2 is goes for $149 most places, so
you could get it quicker.

And then you musta missed my first post where if the OP has no qualms
running a pirated OS, then no updates really depend on luck. Auto
Updates still will protect your PC if you are willing to let MS
middleman technology update your computer. OR the OP can take control of
the security update process himself and download & install all of the
security updates for himself.

Again, I did warn/tell you to read BOTH of my first two messages in this
thread, Liarthos.

The OP would onlyt be sh*t-out-of-luck if he only had you as a source of
info. Thank me, the Anti-MSChrist, for giving the whole story. You
MicroSycophants only tell people that are victums of software pirates
that they are SOL!

As far as I'm concerned, since MS is a victim of the software pirate
too, that given the choice, MS can well afford being the victim, much
more than the individual. So in my opinion, it is MS that is out of
luck!

But I'm sure, you'd rather the individual human being be victimized a
second time, rather then MS being victimized once, since you are a
Microsoft Partner, and are totally biased in favor of your almighty
Microsoft, and you really despise your fellow human beings!

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[Leythos]

And then you musta missed my first post where if the OP has no qualms
running a pirated OS, then no updates really depend on luck. Auto
Updates still will protect your PC if you are willing to let MS
middleman technology update your computer. OR the OP can take control of
the security update process himself and download & install all of the
security updates for himself.

Again, I did warn/tell you to read BOTH of my first two messages in this
thread, Liarthos.

The OP would onlyt be sh*t-out-of-luck if he only had you as a source of
info. Thank me, the Anti-MSChrist, for giving the whole story. You
MicroSycophants only tell people that are victums of software pirates
that they are SOL!

As far as I'm concerned, since MS is a victim of the software pirate
too, that given the choice, MS can well afford being the victim, much
more than the individual. So in my opinion, it is MS that is out of
luck!

But I'm sure, you'd rather the individual human being be victimized a
second time, rather then MS being victimized once, since you are a
Microsoft Partner, and are totally biased in favor of your almighty
Microsoft, and you really despise your fellow human beings!

So you agree with what I said in my reply - thanks.

 

[kurttrail]

So you agree with what I said in my reply - thanks.

No, I agree that you are only telling half the story, and that the OP is
not SOL.

And I also agree that you want the OP to be victimized twice for this
one act of piracy by another, and MS, who can afford it, not to be
victimized at all.

Again, another example of you loving things more than real people.


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Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[Leythos]

No, I agree that you are only telling half the story, and that the OP is
not SOL.

And I also agree that you want the OP to be victimized twice for this
one act of piracy by another, and MS, who can afford it, not to be
victimized at all.

Again, another example of you loving things more than real people.

Wrong, it was quite clear as to why I said he's SOL, it has nothing to
do with updates or if he got screwed, he's just plain out of luck. I
didn't tell any part of the story, didn't suggest that he run out and
purchase anything, didn't suggest that he leap off a building, only that
he purchased a Volume License installed XP and was out of luck since the
seller didn't include the license....

So, since it's going to cost him to become legit, as he doesn't appear
to have a CD, it means he's going to have to pay one way or the other,
or he's not going to be able to reinstall, not going to get optional
updates, etc...

 

[xheggenvy]

So you agree with what I said in my reply - thanks.

No, I agree that you are only telling half the story, and that the OP
is
not SOL.

And I also agree that you want the OP to be victimized twice for this
one act of piracy by another, and MS, who can afford it, not to be
victimized at all.

Again, another example of you loving things more than real people.


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[xheggenvy]

Leythos wrote:

Wrong, it was quite clear as to why I said he's SOL, it has nothing to
do with updates or if he got screwed, he's just plain out of luck. I
didn't tell any part of the story, didn't suggest that he run out and
purchase anything, didn't suggest that he leap off a building, only that
he purchased a Volume License installed XP and was out of luck since the
seller didn't include the license....

So, since it's going to cost him to become legit, as he doesn't appear
to have a CD, it means he's going to have to pay one way or the other,
or he's not going to be able to reinstall, not going to get optional
updates, etc...

LOL! So in a situation where the OP & MS are victims of a software
pirate, you want the thing that can well afford being the victim, to
get retribution from the PERSON who doesn't have billions in his/her
bank account.

Yep, you are a traitor to the human race. You are the MicroBorg, and
you are so far gone that you can't even see that you have been
assimilated!

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[Leythos]

Leythos wrote:



LOL! So in a situation where the OP & MS are victims of a software
pirate, you want the thing that can well afford being the victim, to
get retribution from the PERSON who doesn't have billions in his/her
bank account.

Yep, you are a traitor to the human race. You are the MicroBorg, and
you are so far gone that you can't even see that you have been
assimilated!

You're funny Kurt - MS didn't make the purchase, MS didn't buy from a
unreliable source, MS is not responsible for obvious ignorance of the
purchaser.... Only a idiot would ask that MS be responsible for it.

The OP made a bad purchase, it happens to people all the time, with all
sorts of products, and it can be fixed - either return the
product/dispute it with ebay, or purchase what it takes to give a fully
working platform.

You really are trolling today Kurt.

 

[Michael Stevens]

In

Either way, the OP is out of luck, one requires the CD to get a free
copy, other requires spending $150 - both require filling out a report
(which should not be an issue).

At the same time, OEM XP Prof + SP2 is goes for $149 most places, so
you could get it quicker.

This thread would make much more sense if kurttrails posts weren't deleted.
I don't know who is administrating the newsgroups now, but they should be
ashamed of how they are censoring anyone with any critical opinion about
Microsoft.
These newsgroups should be a valuable source of user feedback, positive or
negative. Censoring the negative posts makes this less of a viable source
where people would want to trust the source of the posters that are not
censored. Can someone find John Eddy and ask him how to deal with these
newsgroups. He was a thorn to the people that abused the newsgroups, but he
was intelligent and fair and did not do blanket censors of viable posters
that often post negative opinion and links about Microsoft.
Please stop blanketing pulling posts from kurttrail who never posts anything
that results in data loss, while allowing any and all posts from Andrew E
who delights in posting information that most of the time will result in
complete loss of all data and never gives a warning to that effect. He also
gives erroneous advice on upgrading from Home to Pro and many other gems of
bad advice. Talahassee, is just a loon and on any given day will give
brilliant information and the next post the information is like a fairytale
of bogus and often potentially harmful advice.

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[bobxodhzh]

You're funny Kurt - MS didn't make the purchase, MS didn't buy from a
unreliable source, MS is not responsible for obvious ignorance of the
purchaser.... Only a idiot would ask that MS be responsible for it.

I'm not asking. I'm saying that MS & you want people to be
victimized twice over the same copy of software. Where before PA, MS
was a partial victim, now they use PA to screw the person a second
time over the crime. MS & you blame the victim, not the crook. MS
has the resources to go after the real pirate, but instead preys on
the victimized human being a second time!

The OP made a bad purchase, it happens to people all the time, with all
sorts of products, and it can be fixed - either return the
product/dispute it with ebay, or purchase what it takes to give a fully
working platform.

You really are trolling today Kurt.

And you are an insufferable waste of oxygen. You are a traitor to the
human race. You are a sycophant to a soul-less corporate criminal.

Coming for you, being called a troll is a compliment, and I'm in very
good company, as they are many people that have they own minds that
you haven't at one time or another called a troll.

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[Leythos]

I'm not asking. I'm saying that MS & you want people to be
victimized twice over the same copy of software. Where before PA, MS
was a partial victim, now they use PA to screw the person a second
time over the crime. MS & you blame the victim, not the crook. MS
has the resources to go after the real pirate, but instead preys on
the victimized human being a second time!

Kurt, neither myself or MS want ANYONE to be victimized ever, but it's
not my fault and not MS's fault that the OP bought a system with an
installed pirated copy of XP. Neither I or MS should have to pay for the
OP's mistake.