Freeware Logo Contest: Vote (please...)

[Vegard Krog Petersen]

I'll try to restrain myself but. . . you've set rather a long time for
the vote. Everybody may be asleep when it's over.

Susan

Yes, silly of me, to long voting time...
I'll stop trying to squash any discussion!

 

[Paul Blarmy]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:49:59 GMT, Rudy Versele wrote...

The 1. Freeware Dollar Globe is very nice too. (only the dollar sign,
not the other sign as euro and pound)

The dollar is NOT international currency. Freeware IS international and
as such shouldn't be represented by a specific currency symbol.

IMHO of course

 

[Anne Carle]

15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee

#4 as its meaning should be universally understood...

Anne/OH

 

[Vic Dura]

"Absolute free software"

Sounds like free software made by a vodka company.

 

[Dewey Edwards]

ACF should not be dependant on any one person. Newsgroup participants
come and go - the newsgroup lives on. I author the ACF and Pricelessware
web pages and copyright them to ACF to help ensure continuity.

More correctly, you assign YOUR copyright to ACF.

 

[granpaw]

No question about it.

 

[Susan Bugher]

I am not going to dispute definitions of authorship or copyright, but
merely state that he is the author and copyright holder, and that I think
it best if it remains that way for reasons to be detailed later.

Why not now?

What is the problem with a "for personal use only" license?

Just for openers - the Pricelessware sites would not be able to use the
image.

So I would take it that you have no real objection to the term "Absolutely
free software" as it basically says the same thing in fewer words.

I can't think of any use for an image with such a slogan. The
Pricelessware List has programs that are not "Absolutely free software".
ACF discusses more than "Absolutely free software". Freeware sites
generally offer programs that are not "Absolutely free software". . .

Susan

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

I can't think of any use for an image with such a slogan. The
Pricelessware List has programs that are not "Absolutely free
software". ACF discusses more than "Absolutely free software".
Freeware sites generally offer programs that are not "Absolutely
free software". . .

IMO, the phrase 'free software' should not be used. The FSF
have done a pretty good job of promoting that phrase as a label for
open source software which can be mofified and redistributed.

 

[Le Loup]

Vegard Krog Petersen a couché sur son écran :

15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee

Cordialement,
Hervé LOTH

 

[Jimw]

I also like the Dollar Globe not the uro or lb

 

[Aussie Bomber]

["Jsp"; Sat, 04 Dec 2004 10:26:35 GMT]

With a compliment to all contestants I would like to vote for nr. 15. I
vote for the whole set, so if this one wins, people can choose which one
to use.

I agree. Anything by Ronald Sandee
..... snip .....

You're not his mother, are you?? ;-)

 

[jo]

Vegard...... my thanks for all the work you and others have put into
this logo, but I won't be voting as I don't think any of them express
'freeware'.
Almost all seem to focus on 'free' and some are too American for an
internaltional symbol.

The current favourite puts me in mind of a Harley...

None actually focus on software other than to display the medium that it
may to transported on.

Yep.

 

[Aussie Bomber]

The current favourite puts me in mind of a Harley...
..... snip .....

Of course!! - I wondered why it looked familar!

 

[jo]

This is my preferred one out of the available candidates:

 

[fireryone]

Please take some time to study the contestants, make up your mind and
vote - they are are all listed here:

http://home.no/buffy2/

Voting process is the standard pricelessware one:
Respond to this thread and let only the line/entry for the image you
vote for be left:

< "Number - image name - artist"

1. Freeware Dollar Globe - by Mike Carson
2. The Diskette Gift - by Clive Savage
3. The CD Gift - by CHarneyCHRIS
4. The No Coin Sign - by Crispy Sea
5. Animated freeware image 1 - by SOS
6. The No Dollar Sign - by Clive Savage
7. Wrapped Gift 1 - by CHarneyCHRIS
8. The Freeware Faerie - <artist unknown>
9. 234x60 freeware banner - by Ronald Sandee
10. Animated freeware image 2 - by SOS
11. Wrapped Gift 2 - by CHarneyCHRIS
12. Butterfly Freeware Coll. - by Charles Angelich
13. The acf F.A.Q. logo 00/03 - by La Bete (?)
14. Earth in hands - <artist unknown>
15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee
16. No Currency Freeware - by Mark Carson
17. Globe on disks - <artist unknown>

12. Butterfly Freeware Coll - by Charles Angelich (pins through the MSN
Butterfly)
&
15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee

--
---------------
fireryone

SCI-FI Quote:
"I will love the light for it shows me the way, Yet I will endure the
darkness for it shows me the stars." -Og Mandino

(Drunk Duck- Free Online Comics)
http://www.drunkduck.com/?r=5353

(Warhead's Freeware Game Collection)
http://earth.prohosting.com/fware

 

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

I think an ACF logo is a great idea.

With respect, Susan, I think you may have hold of the wrong end of the
stick here.
I believe Mr Petersen was intending to elicit a consensus on a FREEWARE
logo, not an ACF logo (i.e., a logo that could be used at the
copyrightholder's discretion to denote "genuine" Freeware in the
commonly-accepted sense [i.e., as would reasonably be understood by a
reasonable person {i.e., fanatics notwithstanding}]) without having
necessarily to gain the "approval" of ACF for its use (and who would be
the approving authority, and why? - it would be idle - nay, stupid - to
suggest that every use should be voted on and its use in that way would be
impossible to police.)

I have a few qualms about the *wording* on the current front-runner:
Wings of Freeware. The image is copyrighted to R.Sandee. It seems to me
an ACF logo should be copyrighted to ACF.

N/A - see above

 

[Bill Day]

15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee

 

[Susan Bugher]

Vegard Krog Petersen wrote:


I think an ACF logo is a great idea.

With respect, Susan, I think you may have hold of the wrong end of the
stick here.
I believe Mr Petersen was intending to elicit a consensus on a FREEWARE
logo, not an ACF logo (i.e., a logo that could be used at the
copyrightholder's discretion to denote "genuine" Freeware in the
commonly-accepted sense [i.e., as would reasonably be understood by a
reasonable person {i.e., fanatics notwithstanding}]) without having
necessarily to gain the "approval" of ACF for its use (and who would be
the approving authority, and why? - it would be idle - nay, stupid - to
suggest that every use should be voted on and its use in that way would be
impossible to police.)

http://home.no/buffy2/ displays 17 freeware images. 16 of them are
FREEWARE logos (they are images without words).

Number 15 (wings of freeware) says alt.comp.freeware - the addition of
those words changes that image from a FREEWARE logo to an ACF logo.

N/A - see above

I disagree.

I like the "wings of freeware" *image* - I think the *words* about ACF
that have been superimposed upon it should be revised or removed.

Susan

 

[Jaxxim]

["Aussie Bomber"; Mon, 06 Dec 2004 00:37:51 GMT]

You're not his mother, are you?? ;-)

WHO TOLD Y--! I mean ... no. No, not at all.

 

[Vegard Krog Petersen]

With respect, Susan, I think you may have hold of the wrong end of the
stick here. I believe Mr Petersen was intending to elicit a consensus
on a FREEWARE
logo, not an ACF logo (i.e., a logo that could be used at the
copyrightholder's discretion to denote "genuine" Freeware in the
commonly-accepted sense [i.e., as would reasonably be understood by a
reasonable person {i.e., fanatics notwithstanding}]) without having
necessarily to gain the "approval" of ACF for its use (and who would be
the approving authority, and why? - it would be idle - nay, stupid - to
suggest that every use should be voted on and its use in that way
would be impossible to police.)

http://home.no/buffy2/ displays 17 freeware images. 16 of them are
FREEWARE logos (they are images without words).

Number 15 (wings of freeware) says alt.comp.freeware - the addition of
those words changes that image from a FREEWARE logo to an ACF logo.

Very interesting chain of thought! It is the ACF who votes / select the
"freeware logo". Is it then the ACF logo also? And since it is selected
by ACF, can it then use the words alt.comp.freeware?

And to complicate matter (or make it easier) - I'm gonna suggest that we
don't invent the wheel again and as the criteria for use re-use what the
group earlier has decided is acceptable "freeware" - ie programs
electable for the pricelessware and it's wares glossary...

Acceptable: Freeware, and the non-intrusive versions of Liteware,
Giftware, Charityware, Registerware, Requestware. Ain't this what we
usually accepts ???

Websites must clearly distinguish between freeware and shareware if they
are gonna use the logo. Freeware on a specific page for instance.

Example: Snapfiles top 100 freeware could use the logo...
http://www.snapfiles.com/topdownloads/fw_top100-1.html

And I still believe R. Sandee must keep the copyright to the image.
We can ask for people to link to a freeware logo site (or page at
pricelessware). That way we can use counters/trackers to see which sites
use it. But we have no chance whatsoever to fully control who uses the
image. If we find inproper use of it, we can ask them to remove it.
With a copyright for the image to an individual (not to a concept as
"loose" as the acf group) perhaps we can have some muscle behind our demand.

I'm hoping both pricelessware sites will use the image and help spread
"the word".

Regards from vegard