File-associations editor

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My Name

My Name <no@e/-\mail.com>:

Thanks! (Now I get to procrastinate something on my todo,
which is always welcome. <g> ) Also, even at my tortoise
net speed, made the trip there and back in under a moment.
I loves a 23k-size download.

Me Too! :D said:
http://members.aol.com/BGuzner/software/
http://members.aol.com/BGuzner/software/rm.setup.exe

Advance warn. It takes a while to adapt to its lack of an
address bar. You do get in the habit of the way takes an
address:

Menu > Go > To Key...
or CTRL-G

There, it will read the reg key you might have in the
clipboard; you don't have to paste it. Also, you'll notice
that there you have a drop-down list of recent registry
paths.

Ok, interesting.
Do check out its Find feature. It's very fast. And also,
notice that Regmagik will only show branched out those
paths in the registry you'd accessed while you had it open.
This provides a good navigational overview of the
particular keys you were viewing or editing. Instead of
them being buried in the thick cluster of thousands of
other keys, the type of view given by other registry
editors.

MmmKay
Reminds me of regeditx
http://www.dcsoft.com/products/regeditx/regeditx.htm
Ah, the other warn... It will crash, from time to time.
Since it is constantly updating its registry display to
match what's happening in real time, which can get too
intense for it. It recovers fine from that, no leaks or
anything. Yet to reduce the frequency of that, I usually
just open and close it a lot, as it takes only a second for
it to launch.

Uh Huh, I see, Thank you for the info! :)
Again, thank you again for the Regmon 1.53. Right after
you'd posted about its monitoring feature, I asked Google
for it. And Google said no. (In English at least, don't
know what it was saying in the other langs.)

YW.
Yeah, the author didn't post 'em by version numbers. So nothing
to differentiate one regshot.zip from another without taking a
look at the download, unfortunately.
 
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omega

My Name said:

Just executing, and doing nothing else, that's probably where it's
registering itself? These keys, and their subkeys:

[HKCU\Software\Local AppWizard-Generated Applications\Associate]
[HKCU\Software\WeyounSoft]
[HKCR\.asc]
[HKCR\Associate.Document]

If you want to witness the damage, and since you've not run it before,
it would be by doing the "Get Settings" followed by the "Apply Changes."
TUN will undo that stuff easily, although I used separate monitors at
the same time in order to get a readable report. I'm sure that the more
filetypes you have, the bigger the numbers will be. And then the more
orphans and stuff, normally harmless, that's where it really goes
whirling...

The big mess is if you run this, not knowing, and have to try to clean
up all of that debris and the invalid keys months later. Not even the
best reg cleaners are equipped for dealing with some of the weird stuff
it adds in.
 
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kalynuik1

J44xm said:
Can anyone recommend a program that can handle file associations in
Windows XP? (It's a plus if it can "lock" associations, making them
unchangeable to applications.) Thanks much.
If you want to restore file associations in Win XP to the default you
can refer here:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/file_assoc.htm

or

To make be able to run ".???" by double-clicking them, try associating
from the cmd line (example given is for .nfo files):

Start Button-->Run
Type cmd

assoc .nfo=view
ftype view=c:\Program Files\NoteTab Std\NoteTab.exe %1 %*

I never knew about the 'assoc' and 'ftype' commands at the cmd.exe
prompt before. Is it not Cool!

Kalynuik1
 
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kalynuik1

kalynuik1 said:
If you want to restore file associations in Win XP to the default you
can refer here:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/file_assoc.htm

or

To make be able to run ".???" by double-clicking them, try associating
from the cmd line (example given is for .nfo files):

Start Button-->Run
Type cmd

assoc .nfo=view
ftype view=c:\Program Files\NoteTab Std\NoteTab.exe %1 %*

I never knew about the 'assoc' and 'ftype' commands at the cmd.exe
prompt before. Is it not Cool!

Kalynuik1
Further to the above can be found here:
http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/ftype.1.asp

Kalynuik1
 
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omega

My Name said:
I kinda thought you must've done something further than I had.
Normally, I just take a regshot. Run & Close the program without
changing anything. Then take my second regshot & compare the
changes reported by RegShot to see if I then want to run
UnDoReg.

Regshot+UndoReg will take care of most program installs, with their
removal of new keys. But, the nested doings from running the commands
of this program, it includes changed values and added values, so you'd
need something else, such as TUN, to undo that type of change.

I did find Regshot useful during my monitoring of this, because while
trying to learn at which point it wrote all that stuff, I took a number
of consecutive snapshots. Regshot has that feature. For example: load
snapshot #2, compare it against snapshot #5.
Well thank you all for the warnings.
Think I'll dump it!

I'd sure advise that! <g> (The reasona I keep it installed is so that
I don't forget and go download it and reinstall at some later point. It's
in a folder with similar utilities, but with a big !!DANGERDANGER file
next to it. And I did find, not long back, a new zip of it over in that
area...fuzz-duh memory syndrome. But its notes stays there, so I don't
get fooled by it anew.)
 
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omega

My Name said:
Just for the record: I run an older version of Regshot 1.53
because it has the "Monitor" the registry function which for
some reason the author removed in later versions. Point being my
version doesn't have the multiple shot thing, however one could
easily run multiple versions of Regshot.

I didn't know about that, the earlier version. Does its monitor have
filters?

Speculation on why he removed it: might be complaints about crashing.
There are some programs that I cannot run at the same time. Inctrl
processing the registry, and Sysinternal's Regmon, and also, my
registry editor, because it updates in real time.... I find that
I can only reliably run one of those at a time. Else they have a
big shoot-out in the OK corral, with sometimes no one left standing.
 
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omega

My Name said:
Yeppers!
Would ya like me to zip ya copy and post it in abf?

Yes, please. I'd like to look at it. Plus there might be a few others
who'd want to pick it up there, too. Those who already like Regmon,
as I do, might be curious to try something similar.

And this will finally get me going on what's been on my todo: Finding
a newsserver for abf. I'd done step 1, sub'd to alt.free.newsservers.
Now time to read up...

[...]
Hmm, "my registry editor" ...

Oh, I had no reason to omit its name. RegMagik. Very fond of it.
Esp after long time endurance of the messy & bloated Registrar Lite.
And before that, the riskily buggy $Reghance.
Are you Karen of Karenware fame, or do you refer to regedit.exe?

Noohp, no relation; I cannot even program. And if I could program...
within that alternate universe...there I'd be doing Delphi. :)
 
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omega

My Name said:
True enough.
I prefer it to the last edition of Regmon that I'd tried.


Ok, done, or doing it at least. :)
Binaries don't hang around long usually especially on free
newservers, so you can also download it here:
http://webpages.charter.net/pipe9178/NewDir/RegShot1.53.zip

Thanks! (Now I get to procrastinate something on my todo, which is always
welcome. <g> ) Also, even at my tortoise net speed, made the trip there
and back in under a moment. I loves a 23k-size download.

OK, I'll Google for RegMagik.
Probably had looked at it in the past.
Don't recall it now, however.

http://members.aol.com/BGuzner/software/
http://members.aol.com/BGuzner/software/rm.setup.exe

Advance warn. It takes a while to adapt to its lack of an address bar.
You do get in the habit of the way takes an address:

Menu > Go > To Key...
or CTRL-G

There, it will read the reg key you might have in the clipboard; you don't
have to paste it. Also, you'll notice that there you have a drop-down list
of recent registry paths.

Do check out its Find feature. It's very fast. And also, notice that
Regmagik will only show branched out those paths in the registry you'd
accessed while you had it open. This provides a good navigational overview
of the particular keys you were viewing or editing. Instead of them being
buried in the thick cluster of thousands of other keys, the type of view
given by other registry editors.

Ah, the other warn... It will crash, from time to time. Since it is
constantly updating its registry display to match what's happening in
real time, which can get too intense for it. It recovers fine from that,
no leaks or anything. Yet to reduce the frequency of that, I usually just
open and close it a lot, as it takes only a second for it to launch.

.. . .

Again, thank you again for the Regmon 1.53. Right after you'd posted
about its monitoring feature, I asked Google for it. And Google said no.
(In English at least, don't know what it was saying in the other langs.)
 
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fitwell

["Uri Rymland"; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:53:23 GMT]

Works like a charm for me so far. Thanks.

Ah, this is a "context editor", not a file types editor, per se.

This brings up something I've been wondering about for a long, long
time, I can only change the icons of a file type through Win98SE's own
interface. Is there a freeware where we can do this? In Win2K at
office, I found that finding a file type is much easier as it will
sort. Not so with Win98SE and one has to hunt through the listed
items one by one. But none of the context editors or file types
editors I've ever tried have showed the icons themselves. I'm
guessing there is one somewhere, it's just to find it.

Thanks!
 
F

fitwell

You are correct! Damn! My apologies to anyone who may have tried this
software with Windows XP.

There's still ContextEdit which is darned good. Anyone tried it in XP
yet and, if so, does it work okay?
 
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fitwell

If you find a free version, please post the URL. Thanks!!!

Nope, the zip file not specific enough and searches then don't always
go well. I can certainly post over in alt.binaries.freeware if you
like. This is one of the first 3 absolute apps I must have no matter
where I go. It's one of the first things that gets installed.

Now if I could only figure out how to back up the files. I did a
wipe/reinstall 10 days ago but then had a crash 2 days ago and had to
do an overlay install. Each of those wipes out the ContextEdit
entries, naturally. Would be nice if there was an ini or dat file
somewhere, eh? I doubt it, though.

Let me know if you'd like me to post.

:blush:D
 
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J44xm

["fitwell"; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:10:05 GMT]
Ah, this is a "context editor", not a file types editor, per se.

I see that now. Can anyone recommend a file-association editor?
 
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fitwell

["fitwell"; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:10:05 GMT]
Ah, this is a "context editor", not a file types editor, per se.

I see that now. Can anyone recommend a file-association editor?

Yes, it's a little confusing. Let's see if I can clarify, too, just to
be straight. A context editor, that's easy, you edit the file type,
yes, but so that when you right-click on a file of a certain type you
can perform actions based on that file type.

A file association editor allows you to edit _all_ file types at once
and there may not be context menu entries involved at all. I remember
there was one that I used way back when before I began to use the
context menu almost exclusively.

I think I remember this one from before but am not sure. Anyway, it's
FileAsoc File Association Editor found here:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/rhaminisys/fileasoc.html
Small dl but does require VB5 runtimes files which you can pick up at
that site if you don't already have. It seems to be freeware from all
I can see.

But this one doesn't edit the icons either. I'm on the hunt for one
that will take over Win98SE because there is no sorting in SE as far
as I've been able to make out. So if I need to edit the displayed
icon for a certian file type, I literally have to go through Win98SE's
entries one by one unless I know the display name it'll be under
(i.e., if I wanted to edit the icon for the AVI file player because
they get knocked out or whatever and need to re-direct the path to
right icon, I can't find AVI, I have to look for "Video Clip". So not
in "A" at the beginning but all the way over at "V".)

****************************
WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE ....


Here's the one I used to use. Recognized the icon right away and sure
enough, that's the interface, too.

Association Manager v1.3a
http://sac-ftp.externet.hu/utilfile2.html

Small, no install and easy to use. Just unzip to folder and run. On
first running it, click on SETTINGS > GET CURRENT SETTINGS and the
program brings up the pertinent information. What's nice is that it
sorts by column headings. I used to use this to find the extension
and then see the name that extension was under so I could then find in
my OS. Trouble is that this one doesn't change info re icons either
but the rest it does great. Once you've made the changes you needed
to do, click on SETTINGS > APPLY CHANGES and it'll interface with your
OS to make the modifications you need. Very simple to use.

(If you don't like this one there are other association managers on
that page. The first one, however,
"63 asc13.zip Associate v1.3 - File utility to set up file
associations in Win95"
had a text file in zip that said it was shareware so I didn't go any
further.

Good luck!

p.s., if anyone finds a file association editor that _does_ allow us
to edit the icon as well, pls advise. Tx!
 

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