Family Pack license in the works - Update

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Dale

Or we could all buy TechNet licenses; surely our wives, our children and our
grandchildren can be "evaluators" - oh wait; the Technet license
specifically states that only the single named subscriber can use the
operating systems.

Ah, what the heck. Why buy Vista Ultimate for $400 and two Home Premiums
for another $100 at a total of $500 when for less than that we can obtain a
TechNet subscription that includes 10 copies of Vista and 10 copies of
Office 2007 as well.

Oh wait. You already did that. Nevermind.

Dale
 
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Dale

If there were a signed version for full retail Ultimate, I'd gladly pay $10
more for it. Unopened, in 20 years, it would be worth the extra 10 dollars
you paid, LOL. But seriously, I'd pay the 10 dollars if it were in Ultimate
retail.

Dale
 
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Dale

I wonder if there's a time limit for installing the other copies. My wife
refuses to have Vista on her PC so I really don't have any other PCs on
which to install Vista right now. I'd like to buy the licenses right away
and save them for when I need them.

Dale
 
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Richard Urban

The loophole doesn't exist.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



Taking advantage of a possible loophole in Microsoft's policies is no more stealing than it is to take advantage of tax loopholes to save money on taxes.


WOW!

I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm sure
he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal because
they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any difference.

Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.

Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
operating system if you could.

What has happened to right and wrong?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Dale

Whether or not the hardware purchase is required for purchase, it is
required by the license that OEM XP be installed on new hardware.

Dale
 
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Dale

Knowingly searching for the loophole and using it in violation of the intent
or spirit of the contract is stealing. While it may not get you in jail, it
is still stealing. Humans don't need courts or laws to define right or
wrong. We know it instinctively.

Dale

Taking advantage of a possible loophole in Microsoft's policies is no more
stealing than it is to take advantage of tax loopholes to save money on
taxes.


WOW!

I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm sure
he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal because
they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any difference.

Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.

Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
operating system if you could.

What has happened to right and wrong?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
D

Dale

Isn't it amazing that people openly discuss stealing and the "community"
doesn't take a stand? Where's Matt Dillon when we need him?

Dale

The loophole doesn't exist.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



Taking advantage of a possible loophole in Microsoft's policies is no more
stealing than it is to take advantage of tax loopholes to save money on
taxes.


WOW!

I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm sure
he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal because
they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any difference.

Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.

Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
operating system if you could.

What has happened to right and wrong?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

I noticed that also. I don't know why there is only the upgrade edition
unless MS has decided to really drive promotion of XP users to upgrade.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Microsoft calls it "out-of-compliance." :)

I agree. If you know you've found a loophole, you already know right from
wrong in the matter.
 
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caver1

Colin said:
Microsoft calls it "out-of-compliance." :)

I agree. If you know you've found a loophole, you already know right
from wrong in the matter.


Loopholes do not always mean wrong. Sometimes loophole means a right way
to get around something that you can't by the way the rules state.
 
M

MICHAEL

<yawn>

Colin Barnhorst said:
Microsoft calls it "out-of-compliance." :)

I agree. If you know you've found a loophole, you already know right from wrong in the
matter.
 
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William

Perhaps that is why when the liberal Left cries 'Soak the rich!' it is the middle class that get screwed.
Knowingly searching for the loophole and using it in violation of the intent
or spirit of the contract is stealing. While it may not get you in jail, it
is still stealing. Humans don't need courts or laws to define right or
wrong. We know it instinctively.

Dale

Taking advantage of a possible loophole in Microsoft's policies is no more
stealing than it is to take advantage of tax loopholes to save money on
taxes.


WOW!

I can't believe some of the comments here. I told a certain fella (I'm sure
he remembers the thread) a couple of months ago that people steal because
they want to steal. Lowering the price wouldn't make any difference.

Well, unfortunately, from some of the comments it looks like I am right.

Some of you still aren't happy and it looks like you would still steal the
operating system if you could.

What has happened to right and wrong?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Richard Urban

This is a non-existent loophole.

Do you think for a moment that Microsoft will not look for a legal and
validated install of Vista Ultimate, before they allow you to order the 2
licenses for Vista Home Premium ***from that computer***?

I sure do!

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Lang Murphy

Like I said b4... don't think it's a rip off or a bad deal... doesn't appeal
to me as much as it apparently does to you. Whatever floats yer boat.

Lang
 
C

CJM

Dale said:
Whether or not the hardware purchase is required for purchase, it is
required by the license that OEM XP be installed on new hardware.

The issue about OEM software is not about the hardware - it's about the
licence. You have differing rights for OEM, which in this context means you
can't transfer it as freely as you can with a retail copy.
 
C

CJM

Colin Barnhorst said:
Microsoft calls it "out-of-compliance." :)

I agree. If you know you've found a loophole, you already know right from
wrong in the matter.

What a crock.

If microsoft were to accept the returns or if you sold the retail Ultimate
version to somebody else, this is neither legally or morally wrong.

In fact I would go further that you have a moral duty to make the most use
of your earnings, and if you can legitimately save money (which you could
always donate to charity) you have a dty to do so. Anything else is
wasteful, which although it might be symptomatic of the American Way, it
morally reprehensible.
 

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