End to piracy

G

Guest

Hi, I am a person from a nation known for its rampant piracy of windows
software. As far as i understand piracy occurs when the software is priced
beyond the reach of most people. A solution to this is for Microsoft to go
in differential pricing. They know the per capita income of the country, and
they should price it accordingly. This would surely exterminate piracy.
Moreover I would request Microsoft to reword its EULA to allow atleast 5
upgrades to your hardware with a single licence of Vista.

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S

SESSION_EVENT

Or how about drop the claus altogether and just let retail copy buyers move
it from computer to computerso longs it runs on one computer at a time ?? I
don't see why they would bother restricting loyal customers ?? I hope they
drop it by RTM.
 
R

robw

That would be unfair to the poorer people in the richer countries. Rather,
Microsoft should 'tax' each user a percentage of their own personal income.
I think 65% per year is fair.

-Rob
:)
 
R

robw

Or people should stop complaining and on the same machines that run Windows,
if they can't afford the upgrade, switch to Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, or Suse
(other suggestions welcome, these are four different free operating systems
off the top of my head).

-Rob
 
G

Guest

I really agree with forgot that even richer countries have their own share of
lesser fortunate people. More over to the comment raised by SESSION_EVENT, I
am a person who likes to build every thing by my own hand and taking it to
retailer every time would take out the fun and thrill of it.
 
W

Will

There already is diferential pricing to a certain extent.
and even if windows was made even cheaper it wouldn't stop piracy
people will always steal software nothing will stop that
not all hackers are thieves most do it as a challenge the more sofisticated
the anti pircay measures the harder hackers will try to crack it
Back when MSFT introduced WPA into windows XP , it was cracked within days.
it is unfortunate that the anti piracy measures are impacting on the fair
use rights of honest users.
 
G

Guest

I believe they just want more money from us fair honest buyers of their
product. But this went to far in vista. No way will I purchase it more than
once if that. Sure will not consider a purchase to they change their
licensing restricitons and until Vista Service pack 1 or two comes out to
know that it will work great. As I did for Windows Xp. Microsoft should
treat us honest buyers of their products with respect as we deserve if they
want our business.
 
G

Guest

Agree but these OSes are not people friendly. really got scared when you
learned that so many things you have to do to start up Linux.
 
G

GEEPEE

Well its a nice socialist thought but those people who steal will always
continue b steal regardless
 
J

Jack

Piracy will never stops.
Do you think Vista won't be cracked?
It is just a piece of code and even it is not scrambled.
It will be cracked as soon as RTM hits the market.
Jack
 
R

robw

That's an untruth. I may have pirated quite a bit as a kid because I had a
small allowance and could only afford so much (I used to think it a great
thing when I could afford to go out and BUY a game or even a utility program
like GEOS, a predecessor to Windows, which I remember buying at SEARS of all
places back in middle school (mid-80s)). As an adult with an income
(thanks, in part, to skills gained as a kid pirating) I no longer even think
of pirating and am turned off by the whole idea. Still, in some sense
piracy is like the 'underground railroad' for the slaves in the civil war
era -- it's delivering knowledge, information, and tools to people who can
better themselves in the long term as a result.

-Rob
 
G

Guest

The solution to me is simple, Don't pirate the software. Microsoft is
actually doing something progressive, which, if it works, will blaze a path
for other software developers.
Lets be honest, it isn't really about the cost, it is about getting
something for nothing. It is stealing. Software piracy is no better than
going to a store and stuffing the CD down your pants. No better than shop
lifting, no better than any other form of theft.
A thief is a thief, whether he or she steals in person at a store, or at
home over the internet. There is no difference. Software pirates to be should
be happy that Microsoft is only shutting down the program and not tracking IP
addresses and forwarding them to the authorities.
Honesty is the best policy, if you don't want to deal with the issues of
pirated software, or the possibility of getting cought or losing the
functionality of your system, there is a simple solution. Don't use pirated
software.
Choices as follows:
1. If you can affort to buy it, buy it, install it and use it.
2. If you can not afford to buy it, save up till you can, then follow step #1
3. If you can't afford to buy it, and you can't afford to save for it. Don't
get Vista.
Now I know that sounds cold and mean spirited, bit this isn't a victimless
crime. Just liek with shoplifting, the more others steal, the more we, who
pay for it, have to pay, because someone has to make up for the lost revenue.
If you work for a living, you expect to get payed to do so. The same goes
for the programmers and such. Some folks put a lot of time and effort into
the creation and design of this program. I think they deserve their pay as
well..

Just a thought
 
R

robw

It's making it difficult for those 'software developers' microsoft is
'helping' to test their 'windows products' on other hardware configurations,
thereby requiring them to suggest to their users that they switch to another
more reasonable system.

-Rob
 
W

Will

Wether we like it or not unfortunately piracy is here to stay people have
been stealing since the dawn of time.
And unfortunatly this is reflected in the price we pay for our goods.
However heavy handed measures in the form of SPP and WGA will never work,
that is just a fact.
I am an honest user and always have been but all these anti piracy measures
seem to be only hurting the honest users and not the thieves.

A good example is when you buy a DVD movie of which you are then the
rightfull owner, you have to resort to cracks and other types of illegal
programs to copy the movie to another disk for backup purposes, and this is
something you are legally entitles to do if you own the original
 
R

RoadRunner

I bet the ones that don't have a problem with Microsoft Vista EULA are the
ones that probably don't even have to buy it , Either they get it from their
company ( work wise ) or they work for Microsoft , Either case they aren't
paying for it but there is still some if the eula stick are just to stupid
to realize
 
R

robw

Well, as far as the price of windows and people's desire to steal it...

You know, on a whim earlier this aftenroon I wanted to install a copy of
linux (ubuntu) on this computer, and to make room, my first inclination
without giving it a second thought was to overwrite my Windows Vista
installation which I did. I figure my customers are currently all running
XP anyway, and there's nothing about Vista that makes me want to boot into
it, so, ... why not?

I suppose that makes me a non-beta tester now (at least temporarily), save
for the fact that Windows Vista left it's boot manager on my old windows
partition..

-Rob
 
R

RoadRunner

I don't blame you , I believe my next comp will be an Apple . Hey if you are
just trying out Ubuntu latest version for the first time ? I think you going
to like it , I know I have , If you like ? I can post all the forum site for
Linux , I have a very long list
 
R

robw

I would, but they'd probably kill my post ;-) ..

Yes, I'm trying ubuntu sort of for the first time -- I tried it about a year
ago, but it seemed to lack many things that other distros had. However, I
understand the 'beryl' window manager is available on the latest ubuntu and
I wanted to give it a go. Ran into some problems switching to the
pre-release version of it, though. (Fortunately, unlike Vista, my problem
wasn't a mis-typed 30-digit product key!!!.)

My real e-mail address is on the message if you want to private send the
list.

-Rob
 

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