Coming to terms with Win XP after using Win 98

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David Maynard

John said:
Microsoft Office is one application, in your opinion?

Hacking a sentence to pieces and then misrepresenting the remaining sliver
so you can falsely construct a pile of nonsense is about as dishonest as
one can get.

Cutting every other paragraph out is just cowardly.

Why do you frequently quote ordinary words in ordinary contexts
(even words you are using)?

I've explained it to you before, more than once, but since everything goes
in one of your ears, rattles around a bit to no effect, and then falls out
the other I'm not inclined to waste my time repeating it.
There is nothing strange about the word
"motivation" in the context it was used.




The part about George Bush Jr. squeaking into office with his might
makes right attorney general being the only thing that saved
Microsoft from being broken up or other serious remedies. Microsoft
was sweating blood. Microsoft was very much wary of public opinion
and was trying hard to influence public opinion at the time. But you
might not remember that. Judging by your prior writings about the
subject, your recollection appears to be corrupt just made up by
your own fantasies and political opinions.

For you to accuse anyone of "fantasies and political opinions" is a gut
busting knee slapper of a joke.
 
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John Doe

People have come here saying that Microsoft accused them of being a
pirate for reactivating Windows.

David Maynard can take his Microsoft Speak and put it where the sun
don't shine.
And it takes a heck of a lot more than an 'occasional upgrade' to
kick in activation.

The usual Microsoft Speak.

In fact, all it takes is formatting your hard drive. Some of us
enjoy reinstalling Windows for the fun of it, without asking
Microsoft for permission.
 
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David Maynard

ToolPackinMama said:
I can't understand why Bill Gates isn't a big enough man to admit that
he already has enough money. What's he afraid of: that he'll be forced
to eat McCheeseburgers, at any point?

You'd have to ask the thousands upon thousands of stockholders how much
money they'd like to lose.

A good follow up question might be how come they didn't just flush it down
a toilet.
 
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David Maynard

ToolPackinMama said:
Really? That's not the impression I got when it was implemented.

Which half of the sentence are you asking about? The 'price' or how much it
takes to kick in activation?
 
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John Doe

ToolPackinMama said:
I can't understand why Bill Gates isn't a big enough man to admit
that he already has enough money. What's he afraid of: that he'll
be forced to eat McCheeseburgers, at any point?

Well yeah. You have to figure it's also the power over the
personal computer market.
 
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John Doe

David Maynard said:
You'd have to ask the thousands upon thousands of stockholders how
much money they'd like to lose.

In this thread, David Maynard is the first to pull out the "it's the
stockholders fault" argument.

In fact, Bill Gates owns about 10% of Microsoft stock.
 
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David Maynard

John said:
People have come here saying that Microsoft accused them of being a
pirate for reactivating Windows.

Maybe they were a pirate.
David Maynard can take his Microsoft Speak and put it where the sun
don't shine.

Maybe if you ever did some research to find out you wouldn't have to live
in a fantasy world all the time.
The usual Microsoft Speak.

In fact, all it takes is formatting your hard drive. Some of us
enjoy reinstalling Windows for the fun of it, without asking
Microsoft for permission.

Formatting your hard drive for no reason isn't an 'upgrade' and I don't
know of anyone but you loony enough to claim they wipe it clean and
reinstall Windows "for the fun of it."
 
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John Doe

David Maynard said:

I did no such thing.

Mxsmanic claims that Microsoft Office is a single application. You
appear to be defending him. So I ask... is Microsoft Office a single
application in your opinion?

I will have to start calling you "Mr Dodge" since for some strange
reason you cannot answer a straightforward question. I guess that
has some relation to your frequent practice of quoting ordinary
words in ordinary contexts, even your own words.
Cutting every other paragraph out is just cowardly.

And you are still trying to win the "First Bully on the Internet"
award.
I've explained

No you haven't.
 
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David Maynard

John said:
In this thread, David Maynard is the first to pull out the "it's the
stockholders fault" argument.

I said nothing about any kind of "fault." It's simply a matter of fact that
*normal* people invest in a company to earn a profit, not toss their money
down a toilet.
In fact, Bill Gates owns about 10% of Microsoft stock.

A 'fact' that is irrelevant to the 90%.
 
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John Doe

David said:
Maybe they were a pirate.

Maybe David Maynard is a tough guy on the Internet.
Maybe if you ever did some research to find out you wouldn't have
to live in a fantasy world all the time.

I am always happy to debate David Maynard about Microsoft, whether
he likes it or not. My citations versus his mangled opinions.
Formatting your hard drive for no reason isn't an 'upgrade' and I
don't know of anyone but you loony enough to claim they wipe it
clean and reinstall Windows "for the fun of it."

Come out of the closet and find another contact besides your penis.
 
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John Doe

I just want to tell everyone I am sorry for acting like a little child. I
will try to be more mature and responsible in the future when I am
expressing my opinions. Please understand that I am on ridalin and my
parents send me to counseling three times per week. However, this does not
always work, especially when I am out of school and have a long break. I
have alot of free time on my hands, so picking on people is often the only
source of entertainment I have.

Again, I am sorry for my poor attitude. Thank you for bearing with me as I
try desperately to behave myself.
 
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David Maynard

John said:
I did no such thing.

The sentence I typed is not complete in your reply. You hacked it.
Mxsmanic claims that Microsoft Office is a single application. You
appear to be defending him. So I ask... is Microsoft Office a single
application in your opinion?

Mxsmanic made no such claim in this thread nor was that the topic nor in
any way even remotely related to the topic. It was one of your typical
irrational attempts at ridicule by pulling a sliver of a previous
conversation out of context and injecting it into a different unrelated one.

I gave it the attention it deserved: none.

I will have to start calling you "Mr Dodge" since for some strange
reason you cannot answer a straightforward question. I guess that
has some relation to your frequent practice of quoting ordinary
words in ordinary contexts, even your own words.

Got news for you pal. I'm not obligated to 'answer' a dern thing, much less
your contrived nonsense.

And you are still trying to win the "First Bully on the Internet"
award.

Another knee slapper coming from Mr. SPAM Cop Paste Their Headers Troll Master.
No you haven't.

Yes I have. Look on the floor where it apparently fell out after rattling
around inside to no effect.
 
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David Maynard

John said:
Maybe David Maynard is a tough guy on the Internet.

Translation. John Doe hasn't a clue so he whips out whatever insult comes
to mind.

I am always happy to debate David Maynard about Microsoft, whether
he likes it or not. My citations versus his mangled opinions.

ROTFLOL

Go ahead. 'Cite' me what XP looks at to determine when activation is required.
Come out of the closet and find another contact besides your penis.

Congratulations. You've finally made it down to about the maturity level of
a 14 year old.
 
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Mxsmanic

John said:
If you are suggesting that all of the code for Windows XP was
contained in Windows NT, that sounds very silly.

"Code base" means what it says, and thus does _not_ mean "all of the
code."
Are you saying that Microsoft just sat around for however many years
it was supposed to have been writing Windows XP before its release?

I said what I wrote. It's best to start with that.
 
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Mxsmanic

ToolPackinMama said:
::sigh:: True. Most of the best games are windows-only.

I have only two or three games, but I suppose that may be true. The
problem is that important applications for business and personal use
tend to be Windows-only, too. Even former Mac applications like
Photoshop are now written for Windows (with a subsequent port to the
Mac).
 
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Mxsmanic

Jim said:
Depends. If you count strictly the numbers of applications then by no
doubt MS wins hands down. But how many do you actually use?

A hundred or so, of which only five or six exist for platforms other
than Windows.
I have two desktops and one laptop. One desktop is dual boot Linux/XP
as is the laptop. The other desktop is strictly Linux.

Unfortunately, I use my machines for production, so I cannot afford to
have multiple boot configurations. The machines stay up all the time.
My use of Windows tends to be Quicken, TurboTax, and Streets & Trips.
Quicken I access about once a month. TurboTax in a couple weeks. And
Streets & Trips a couple times in the summer. Always offline.

That's it??
Linux handles everything else.

How much is "everything else"?
Nice being able to access the Internet and such without dealing
with the bug if the week.

Watch Bugtraq, and you may be surprised.
 
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Mxsmanic

John said:
And if you walk into a software store, you might be able to find
something other than Windows software, and you certainly won't find
Linux software.

All the computer stores near me carry at least Windows, Mac OS X, and
several of the ten million distributions of Linux.
It is only the software you use, it's the software you might use or
the software you might want to use.

Not necessarily. As a general rule, once your initial configuration is
in place, it tends to remain stable, if you use your computer as a
tool.
 
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Mxsmanic

John said:
Playing dumb again, I guess. Expert users, I would assume many in
this group, do more than just an occasional upgrade.

No, they don't. Hobbyists upgrade all the time, but many expert users
are not hobbyists, and use their machines for production. Production
machines are almost never upgraded.
 
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Mxsmanic

John said:
In fact, all it takes is formatting your hard drive. Some of us
enjoy reinstalling Windows for the fun of it, without asking
Microsoft for permission.

Some of us use our computers to do productive things, and formatting a
hard drive just for fun is in direct conflict with that goal.
 
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Mxsmanic

ToolPackinMama said:
I can't understand why Bill Gates isn't a big enough man to admit that
he already has enough money.

He already has. And over his lifetime, he's given about half of it
away to charity ($27 billion at last count, IIRC).
 

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