Coming to terms with Win XP after using Win 98

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David Maynard

John said:
The usual Microsoft Speak nonsense from the same Microsoft defender
who plainly/unashamedly states "Microsoft Office is one
application".

He has a better argument than your cavalier and unsupported assertion a
browser dispute had anything to do with it.

Misleading, obscure, and pointless.

Except it's perfectly accurate.
A Microsoft defender suggesting that the many years of work on XP
before its release were an allusion, that Microsoft employees were
sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

He's 'suggesting' no such thing.
So it magically appeared at the wave of his idle Steve Ballmer's
hand.




Which doesn't include most consumers.

Right. Because NT was the 'professional' O.S. and still is in the Windows
2000, XP Pro, and 2003 Server versions.

XP Home is the consumer version of it with DX, gaming, multimedia, and
various bells and whistles added to suit the different market and replacing
the now defunct Win9x DOS based line. You know, the part he said up above
about it being the consumer version of Windows NT that's perfectly accurate.

Which doesn't mean that Windows XP would be offered to consumers at
the same price as prior consumer versions of Windows.

Apparently the troll doesn't understand what proper motivation can
do for an entity.

And just what aspect of the suit was 'motivation' for making a better O.S.?
The part about hacking pieces out of it?
 
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David Maynard

ToolPackinMama said:
That's the one thing that I hate, that pissed off many of us homebuilders.

I change my hardware frequently, and for MS to demand that I re-activate
at full price after "one-too-many" upgrades felt like punishment. I
have been a faithful and honest customer. I resent being treated like a
thief, simply because I upgrade frequently.

The "full price" of re-activation is 0 and only the most severe of upgrades
requires even that.
 
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John Doe

David Maynard said:
The "full price" of re-activation is 0

That doesn't say much about the value of your time and effort.
and only the most severe of upgrades requires even that.

Playing dumb again, I guess. Expert users, I would assume many in
this group, do more than just an occasional upgrade.
 
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John Doe

David Maynard said:
He has a better argument

Microsoft Office is one application, in your opinion?
And just what aspect of the suit was 'motivation' for making a
better O.S.?

Why do you frequently quote ordinary words in ordinary contexts
(even words you are using)? There is nothing strange about the word
"motivation" in the context it was used.
The part about hacking pieces out of it?

The part about George Bush Jr. squeaking into office with his might
makes right attorney general being the only thing that saved
Microsoft from being broken up or other serious remedies. Microsoft
was sweating blood. Microsoft was very much wary of public opinion
and was trying hard to influence public opinion at the time. But you
might not remember that. Judging by your prior writings about the
subject, your recollection appears to be corrupt just made up by
your own fantasies and political opinions.
 
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nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:29:26
-0600, in alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of "Coby
Smith" <[email protected]> spewed the following:

|TROLL. Please go away.

BOO!


||> ToolPackinMama <laura lauragoodwin.org> wrote:
|>
|
--

-nos1eep

Scaling up the heights of folly.
non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate
 
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nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:29:46
-0600, in alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of "Coby
Smith" <[email protected]> spewed the following:

|TROLL. PLEASE GO AWAY.

I love the way your voice gets all screechy when you try to shout.

|
||
--

-nos1eep

Scaling up the heights of folly.
non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate
 
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nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:35:48 GMT,
in alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of John Doe
<[email protected]> spewed the following:

|David Maynard <nospam private.net> wrote:
|
|> ToolPackinMama wrote:
|>
|>> John Doe wrote:
|>>
|>>> Windows Product Activation
|>>> sucks too.
|>>
|>>
|>> That's the one thing that I hate, that pissed off many of us
|>> homebuilders.
|>>
|>> I change my hardware frequently, and for MS to demand that I
|>> re-activate at full price after "one-too-many" upgrades felt like
|>> punishment. I have been a faithful and honest customer. I
|>> resent being treated like a thief, simply because I upgrade
|>> frequently.
|>
|> The "full price" of re-activation is 0
|
|That doesn't say much about the value of your time and effort.
|
|> and only the most severe of upgrades requires even that.
|
|Playing dumb again, I guess. Expert users, I would assume many in
|this group, do more than just an occasional upgrade.

PMSL
Expert users never have to activate.
--

-nos1eep

Scaling up the heights of folly.
non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate
 
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nos1eep

It is further alleged that on or about Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:10:26 GMT,
in alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt, the queezy keyboard of John Doe
<[email protected]> spewed the following:

|
|...
|> Expert users never have to activate.
|
|I was kind of wondering why it apparently inconveniences
|ToolPackinMama.

<VBFG>
Might be 'cause Mama don't pack no tool.
--

-nos1eep

Scaling up the heights of folly.
non est ponenda pluritas sine necessitate
 
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JAD

ToolPackinMama said:
That's the one thing that I hate, that pissed off many of us homebuilders.

Yeah..I lost all that hacked OS work.............

I change my hardware frequently, and for MS to demand that I re-activate
at full price after "one-too-many" upgrades felt like punishment. I
have been a faithful and honest customer. I resent being treated like a
thief, simply because I upgrade frequently.

Me too .... However I hate the jackasses that spend every waking hour
hacking the OS, to force MS into activation, AND I hate MS for not just
charging enough to absorb the pirating... ;^i
 
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David Maynard

John said:
That doesn't say much about the value of your time and effort.

Everyone in this newsgroup could have reactivated XP a hundred times over
in just the time you spend typing "troll." And that seems to come free enough.

Playing dumb again, I guess. Expert users, I would assume many in
this group, do more than just an occasional upgrade.

And it takes a heck of a lot more than an 'occasional upgrade' to kick in
activation.
 
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ToolPackinMama

David said:
The "full price" of re-activation is 0 and only the most severe of
upgrades requires even that.

Really? That's not the impression I got when it was implemented.
 
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ToolPackinMama

JAD said:
Me too .... However I hate the jackasses that spend every waking hour
hacking the OS, to force MS into activation, AND I hate MS for not just
charging enough to absorb the pirating... ;^i

I can't understand why Bill Gates isn't a big enough man to admit that
he already has enough money. What's he afraid of: that he'll be forced
to eat McCheeseburgers, at any point?
 
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John Doe

JAD said:
Yeah..I lost all that hacked OS work.............

Apparently that's supposed to be some sort of sarcasm.
Me too .... However I hate the jackasses that spend every waking
hour hacking the OS, to force MS into activation,

Nothing forced Microsoft into Windows Product Activation WPA, except
corruption caused by the power of its stranglehold over the desktop
software publishing market, monopoly power.
AND I hate MS for not just
charging enough to absorb the pirating... ;^i

Apparently JAD has never heard of Windows corporate versions.
Windows Product Activation isn't doing anything to stop pirates.
Microsoft's clamping down only stops some naïve home users and
business users who are subject to Microsoft audits.

Microsoft's profit margins are 80%.

Americans are the only people supporting Microsoft's empire. The
rest of the world gets Windows and Office for free because either
their government simply refuses to enforce intellectual property law
or their government has no intellectual property law to begin with.
Microsoft's empire is supported almost entirely by Americans,
Microsoft outsources its jobs to India, and yet our government touts
Microsoft as a flagship business. It's sad IMO.
 

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