Boycott Sony cd's

[Angry Andrew]

Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Angry Andrew wrote:

Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
A.A.

Why don?t you take the Record? With that you would not have problems
playing it back.

Put the needle on the record. Don?t forget to take the right speed




All, boycot Angry!!!!!




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: What is this a problem?

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Why don?t you take the Record? With that you would not have problems
playing it back.

I forgot to mention, that the quality for home-user would be more
appreciable, digitizing a Record than making worse digital copies from
a far worse (IMHO only for playback - IMO digitally uncopyable, I tried
many copies and not one satisfies. Real CD-Recorder are better, but
also not 100%) medium called Compact Disc.
So anyone could decide him/herself which audio-quality is needed. MP3,
WAV, 16Bit, 20Bit, 24bit... etc...
The Record delivers up to 70000Hz Frequence, well enough for
24bit/192!khz (96Khz Sampleclock is too less for full bandwidth)
digitizing. Why angering with CD´s?

 

[man-wai chang]

Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

Use a honest OS like linux.

 

[John Corliss]

Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

I totally agree, even if this is off topic in alt.comp.freeware. More on
the ROOTKIT DRM that Sony installs on your system without you knowing it
is here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2053

and here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2057

I won't be knowingly buying another Sony product again, ever.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.

 

[Vic Dura]

I totally agree, even if this is off topic in alt.comp.freeware. More on
the ROOTKIT DRM that Sony installs on your system without you knowing it
is here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2053

and here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2057

Thanks John. Very informative.

I won't be knowingly buying another Sony product again, ever.

Ditto on that.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> man-wai chang

Use a honest OS like linux.

What difference would that make? If Linux was popular enough for Sony
to care, they could just as easily write this crap to run under Linux.

 

[Dan G]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12631

 

[Ghostrider]

Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.

Why bother boycotting? It's going to be self-destructing in
any event. The time is now to liquidate any common stock in
SONY.

 

[Paul_B]

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.

Mark's article was like being taken on a tour of the Matrix.
Amazing.

One takeaway is that I have lost *all* reservations about using
his excellent disk utilities to defrag my computer (and they are
indeed *superb*!! - goodbye to commercial rivals). This man has a
rare knowledge of the deep levels of how the computer functions,
and writes software that reflects that knowledge.

p.

f'up set.

 

[Rob Kelk]

In message <[email protected]> man-wai chang


What difference would that make? If Linux was popular enough for Sony
to care, they could just as easily write this crap to run under Linux.

Not "as easily" - the kernel architecture is substantially different.
But it could be done, yes. I'm not sure how much room would be left on
the CD for music, though...

 

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

FWIW:

"We wrote on Tuesday about the DRM software from Sony that used rootkit
technologies. The company behind the technology, First 4 Internet, has now
released an update for the software. After visiting the web site,
downloading and installing the update, it now seems that the DRM software no
longer attempts to hide anything on the computer. The rootkit driver
(aries.sys) is removed from the system during the update.

The update from Sony is available here

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

We sincerely hope that the updated version will make it to the CD's in
stores as soon as possible. Many people that buy copy-protected music will
not be aware of the programs that get installed on their computers, let
alone worry about updating them.

Automatic uninstallation of the software is still not possible without
additional tools, and removing it manually is difficult. If you want to
remove the software from your computer, we still recommend that you contact
Sony BMG
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form8.html
using their web form and ask for permission to uninstall it."

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/

Maris

Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

 

[Arne Anka]

I alt.comp.freeware, sa Maris V. Lidaka Sr. utan att tänka först:

Automatic uninstallation of the software is still not possible
without additional tools, and removing it manually is difficult. If
you want to remove the software from your computer, we still
recommend that you contact Sony BMG
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form8.html
using their web form and ask for permission to uninstall it.

Their FAQ <http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/faq.html#uninstall> says:

How do I uninstall the software?

If at some point you wish to remove the software from your machine
simply contact customer service [through this link]. The only safe and
proper way to uninstall the components is to follow these instructions
exactly. You will, though, be unable to use the disc on your computer
once you uninstall the components.

[through this link] == Uninstall Request == <http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form14.html>

X-Posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.periphs.cdr

--
Arne Anka

Men det värsta är inte själva baksmällan,
den verkliga pärsen börjar när gårdagens
oundvikliga sanningar börjar rullas upp för en...

<http://starcruiser.dk/arne/>

 

[SLLD]

Use a honest OS like linux.

Why do you find it necessary to attack windows??
You are not forced to use it.
What if I tell you , you must drive a 61 chevy truck??
go to your linsux site and leave us alone...
Signed XXX

 

[Gordon Abbot]

I totally agree, even if this is off topic in alt.comp.freeware. More on
the ROOTKIT DRM that Sony installs on your system without you knowing it
is here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2053

and here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2057

I won't be knowingly buying another Sony product again, ever.

Sony is installing a dangerous program to your computer without your
permission. This is supposedly illegal in some states, so they may have
opened themselves up to fines and lawsuits. Their action will make your
computer vulnerable to root viruses.

Add that some root file virus removers will trash your hard drive and
make you lose everything trying to remove something put on there without
your permission makes it even worse for a supposedly legitimate
business. Sony has really blundered on this one.

Add that to the fact that their quality has gone down and they are
behind the power curve on flat screens, sell your stock.

GA

 

[default]

Why do you find it necessary to attack windows??
You are not forced to use it.
What if I tell you , you must drive a 61 chevy truck??
go to your linsux site and leave us alone...
Signed XXX

That wasn't an attack on an inferior operating system.

Given the problems getting Linux drivers for peripherals - you might
say one is forced to use Windows.

Your analogy suffers. Linux is continually evolving and improving
unlike the Windows Chevy truck.

Linux site? Microsoft owns Usenet now? Maybe you should stick to
your AOL groups.

 

[The Seabat]

Let me see iffn I have this all straight. If I buy a SONY cd at an
exorbitant price they claimed would be reduced, since it is soo much
cheaper to make cd's than vinyl records, but isn't. Then play this
said cd on my 'puter it will install adware, spyware (and who knows
what other crap) onto my machine along with some hokey player just to
listen to said cd. Also I can only rip 3 copies of the cd. Then if I
want to remove (gasp!) their junk from my machine, I have to contact
SONY and beg them for their permission and instructions on how to do
this? And if I do that, my machine will be fine, but damn, I can't
play that cd on it ever again??

I've got one thing to say about that, FU*K YOU, SONY!!
Pardon my French!

 

[Mike Bourke]

No, there's more to it than that. The technology used leaves your system
open to exploits by other malware; while the software is installed it
reports back to sony on the CDs that you play on the affected system; and if
you employ their patch and just try to delete the now-visible files and
registry entries, your CD drive stops working.

What's more, since the music player is bundled free with any music CD that
you buy from them, and reportedly on some DVDs as well, it could technically
be considered freeware. "In theory" you aren't paying for the software,
you're paying for the data that the software is intended to access.

Reportedly, this can be beaten by disabline autoplay on your CD drive,
enabling you to open the cd's tracks using your preferred CD player
software - but that means that you have to go without the convenience of
your system automatically recognising music CDs when you insert them.

There have been complaints made to the Ausrtralian Government at various
levels and it has been reported that a UK-based class action suit has
gathered over 1500 supporters. It would not surprise me to learn that there
are other moves being made in response to this.

Mike

 

[Al Klein]

That wasn't an attack on an inferior operating system.

You're right. It was a comment on an inferior operating system.

 

[Al Klein]

Sony is installing a dangerous program to your computer without your
permission. This is supposedly illegal in some states

Unauthorized access to a computer is a violation of FEDERAL law, so
it's illegal in ALL states.

so they may have opened themselves up to fines and lawsuits.

"May have"? They have. But the courts are loathe to find against
major multinationals in cases in which those multinationals may suffer
losses in the billions. Especially if the plaintiff is John Q.
Nobody. Now if Multinational, Inc., presses suit against Sony for
invading their thousands of computers, we may see a major class-action
suit.