Bootable CDROM for BIOS update?

[JBM]

A mobo doesn't "break" from an older version of bios. It might give
problems with newer hardware if you install it.

A mobo might however occasionaly "break" from a BIOS flash operation.

That shouldn't withhold you from flashing to the latetst BIOS though,
but the saying about not being "broken" and being not in need of
repairing still holds.

No it doesn't

 

[CeeBee]

No it doesn't

Those are convincing arguments.


--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[JBM]

Those are convincing arguments.

I'm not trying to convince you.
It would be a waste of my time.

 

[Ron Reaugh]

Ron, Paul et al:
Greetings and hallucinations from just north of Fantasy Land (Washington,
DC)!
Only flash a BIOS to correct a problem. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is
an old proverb.

Totally bad advice from 1995.

 

[Ron Reaugh]

message news:[email protected]...
<snipped>

I always keep my board flashed with the latest BIOS.
To me it's more a matter of maintaining your system so it doesn't
break.

Precisely. It's just like the latest device drivers and program updates.

 

[Ron Reaugh]

A mobo doesn't "break" from an older version of bios. It might give
problems with newer hardware if you install it.

NONSENSE. The odds are exactly the reverse of that.

A mobo might however occasionaly "break" from a BIOS flash operation.

A gaint meteroid might get you too.

That shouldn't withhold you from flashing to the latetst BIOS though,
but the saying about not being "broken" and being not in need of
repairing still holds.

It most certainly does NOT hold.

 

[Ron Reaugh]

I'm not trying to convince you.
It would be a waste of my time.

We've noticed that<g>. Logic and good practice evades a few.

 

[CeeBee]

I'm not trying to convince you.
It would be a waste of my time.

I have never ever considered the fact that flashing BIOS is actually a
religion, elevated above discussion and real life facts, and leading to
seizures and frothing by its believers if they encounter heathens.

I thought it was just friggin' flashing some chip with a few zeroes and
ones.


--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[Ron Reaugh]

I have never ever considered the fact that flashing BIOS is actually a
religion, elevated above discussion and real life facts, and leading to
seizures and frothing by its believers if they encounter heathens.

I thought it was just friggin' flashing some chip with a few zeroes and
ones.

The only philistine chant from the Ozarks in this thread has been:
"don't fix it if it ain't busted."

 

[Triffid]

We've noticed that<g>. Logic and good practice evades a few.

This thread now seems to be about the merits of "Stay Current" vs. "If
it ain't broke, don't fix it".

I won't join that debate, other than to say I advocate preventive
maintenance, but it seems to me there's a third, highly relevant, adage
which has not been mentioned - "Don't make changes without a backout plan".

Without pointing fingers, it appears the current state of BIOS update
technology is such that an inordinate number of users manage to disable
their hardware and are unable to recover short of spending time and
money on a replacement BIOS chip.

If all motherboards implemented a reliable dual-BIOS, I suspect your
views would represent the majority.

I recommend factoring in the price of a spare BIOS chip when making
motherboard purchase decisions.

Triffid

 

[CeeBee]

NONSENSE. The odds are exactly the reverse of that.

Now I lose you completely.

First you claim -up to a point where you lose control of your senses-
that one _always_ should flash BIOS to the newest version to prevent
problems, and here you claim that putting in newer hardware gives _less_
chance on problems than with newer BIOS.

You even call the statement that older versions of BIOS might give
possible problems when you install new hardware "nonsense".

Well, religious fanatics always make up the rules, and are seldomly
interested in continuity, facts or logic. It's clearly no different with
you.

I have stumbled upon a religion. I'm sorry I hurted your god. I just
thought we were discussing some software code for a chip soldered to a
plastic plate in a computer. How mistaken could I be.


--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[CeeBee]

alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:

The only philistine chant from the Ozarks in this thread has been:
"don't fix it if it ain't busted."

What kind of a weirdo is this guy? Is he a known usenet kook?

--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[Ron Reaugh]

alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:




What kind of a weirdo is this guy? Is he a known usenet kook?

When you can't cut it technically then attack the poster...they always
ultimately expose themselves.

 

[CeeBee]

When you can't cut it technically then attack the poster...they always
ultimately expose themselves.

No, it's slightly different with you and me. When _you_ can't cut it
technically, _you_ twist my words and bend the original meaning to cater
your own agenda.

Don't you lecture me. A bit more critical about your _own_ behaviour,
please.

One doesn't cut religion technically, nor its fanatics and their
dogma's. And as I already stated - you're free to your beliefs.
I only wonder (and it might amaze you that I'm sincere) why people like
you make such a fuss about an advice to think twice before performing a
BIOS upgrade that might not be necessary.

After all it is you who blowed your top and turned red before the eyes
when your arguments and ideas where disputed.
It makes my inquiry quite understandable: the way you react and behave
_is_ typical of Usenet kooks, there's no doubt about that.

So you're _not_ a Usenet kook. Good.

But I still think the way you react to a simple message is plain weird.
It's not reacting, it's overreacting. It's preposterous behaviour.

--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[Ron Reaugh]

Wacko.

No, it's slightly different with you and me. When _you_ can't cut it
technically, _you_ twist my words and bend the original meaning to cater
your own agenda.

Don't you lecture me. A bit more critical about your _own_ behaviour,
please.

One doesn't cut religion technically, nor its fanatics and their
dogma's. And as I already stated - you're free to your beliefs.
I only wonder (and it might amaze you that I'm sincere) why people like
you make such a fuss about an advice to think twice before performing a
BIOS upgrade that might not be necessary.

After all it is you who blowed your top and turned red before the eyes
when your arguments and ideas where disputed.
It makes my inquiry quite understandable: the way you react and behave
_is_ typical of Usenet kooks, there's no doubt about that.

So you're _not_ a Usenet kook. Good.

But I still think the way you react to a simple message is plain weird.
It's not reacting, it's overreacting. It's preposterous behaviour.

--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[Don Burnette]

<snipped>

I always keep my board flashed with the latest BIOS.
To me it's more a matter of maintaining your system so it doesn't
break.

Jim M

I do as well, always have since I have been building my own pc's - a few
years now.

So far < knocking on wood> , never had a problem flashing the bios.

 

[Ron Reaugh]

I do as well, always have since I have been building my own pc's - a few
years now.

So far < knocking on wood> , never had a problem flashing the bios.

Most everyone I talk to who actually does work on PCs has been flashing
regularly for years now. With modest competence and a little care it is
quite safe.

Only a few zealots are trying to create somekind of dogma for the masses and
are purveying this nonsense about "don't fix it if it ain't busted".

 

[CeeBee]

Wacko.

When you can't cut it technically then attack the poster...they always
ultimately expose themselves.

I retract my words about you not being self-critical.

--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[CeeBee]

alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus:

Only a few zealots are trying to create somekind of dogma for the
masses and are purveying this nonsense about "don't fix it if it ain't
busted".

Good. Let all your frustrations out. I hope you feel better now.

--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

 

[John Crawford]

Well, keep this in mind:

In general, the CD will only run MS-DOS, not Windows.

More to the point, because of the above, if the hard drive is NTFS,
the bootable CD-ROM won't even be able see/access the hard drive -- AT
ALL.

There's nothing wrong with having the CD, and it's a fine way to
reflash a BIOS, as far as that goes. But understand the limitations
(one of which is you won't be able to save the old BIOS on the CD).

Microsoft's "recovery console" is essentially a 7 megabyte version of
MS-DOS that has NTFS support (read and write, providing that no
permissions are restricted and no encryption is set). However, I
don't know how to get that onto a bootable CD, although I'm sure that
it is possible.

It is possible to have a Boot CD which will boot into NTFS file system.
I have one and it works fine