Better.... much better.

[Buford T. Justice]

If it was quite easy, then why are you the only one having the
interpretation problem?

Because it is flawed. Saying that there are no requirements to use
Microsoft online services is not correct. Saying that there are no
requirements to use Microsoft online services within WLM is correct. I
guess I am the only person here who takes this to mean two entirely
different things. Let me try to explain...

In regards to "no requirements to use Microsoft online services is not
correct", that is not correct. If you want to use Hotmail for your e-mail,
you would obviously have the requirement of needing a Hotmail account. If
you used MSN as your ISP, you would obviously need an MSN account to log in.
If you used OneCare, you would need a license. If you wanted to use Windows
Live Messenger, you would need a Windows Live ID. Etc. These are all
Microsoft online services that have requirements to use them.

In regards to "no requirements to use Microsoft online services within WLM",
that is correct. You don't need to sign into Windows Live with a Hotmail,
Live, or MSN account if you have POP3 or IMAP e-mail accounts from other
providers.

Your suggested revision is worse than the original statement.

No, the revision showed that he would have meant there are no requirements
to use Microsoft online services in WLM. If you want to get real picky,
there may be people who have to use MSN since that is their ISP in order to
check their e-mail with WLM. In that case, MSN (a Microsoft online service)
would be required to use WLM.

This is the way that I have read and understood Gary's statement:
Using WLM does not require trying or using Microsoft's online services.

The original question meant that the discussion was to be about WLM.
"What do you think about the following opinion of WLM quoted from another
newsgroup?"

Agreed

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

That's OK. I'm done in this thread. We can agree to disagree about
the meaning of what I said.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]

Look at my reply a few posts below this one.

Regarding those two sentences of mine you quoted.
Notice that one sentence immediately follows the other.
Those are not stand-alone sentences or stand-alone concepts.
Anyone who understands the meaning of 'context' will know
that the sentence "There is no requirement to try or use any
of Microsoft's online services" was in reference to trying or
using WLM.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


This is what you said earlier...

Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]

You have to have a Windows Live ID to use Microsoft online services. Got
to have it for Hotmail. Got to have for Windows Live Messenger. Got to
have it for the Calendar Beta. Got to have it for MSN. Yada yada yada...

 

[Buford T. Justice]

Agreed.

That's OK. I'm done in this thread. We can agree to disagree about
the meaning of what I said.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]

Look at my reply a few posts below this one.

Regarding those two sentences of mine you quoted.
Notice that one sentence immediately follows the other.
Those are not stand-alone sentences or stand-alone concepts.
Anyone who understands the meaning of 'context' will know
that the sentence "There is no requirement to try or use any
of Microsoft's online services" was in reference to trying or
using WLM.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


This is what you said earlier...

Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]

You have to have a Windows Live ID to use Microsoft online services.
Got to have it for Hotmail. Got to have for Windows Live Messenger.
Got to have it for the Calendar Beta. Got to have it for MSN. Yada
yada yada...