Better.... much better.

D

Dave

Live Mail does both email and newsgroups. Install the email program.


Bob Newman said:
Now I'm really lost. I downloaded it (I thought it was email &
newsreader) turns out to be a browser + but where are my newsgroups? I
told it not to install email, was that a mistake? Are there instructions
anyplace?

Bob

Gary VanderMolen said:
Careful with that "Windows Live" terminology because it includes a
whole suite of programs. Yes, Windows Live Mail includes the news reader.
--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Bob Newman said:
In going to that link and clicking Get Windows Live it takes me to a
page that asks what features to install and says nothing about
newsgroups. At first I thought that maybe that was just part of the
basic package but mail is something you are asked to check if you want
it. Does Live Mail still do newsgroups?

Bob

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


I've just been surfing Microsoft's web site and couldn't find it.
Could someone please give me specific directions to the WLM download?

Thanks... Bob

Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue
doing so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of
it. Are there any complications involved in downloading and
installing WLM that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance,
automatically take over as the default e-mail client or newsreader,
does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
W

...winston

I don't recall that it automatically overtook Office 2003 or 2007 as the
default email client

...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail

: WLM does take over as default email client and news reader, but
: that is easily fixed.
:
: --
: Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
:
:
: > Hi, Michael:
: >
: > Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
: > Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue doing
: > so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
: > nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of it.
: > Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing WLM
: > that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically take
: > over as the default e-mail client or newsreader, does it?
: >
: > Daze
: >
: > MICHAEL wrote:
: >> I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
: >> with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
: >> WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.
: >>
: >> Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
: >> for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
: >> improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
: >> Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.
: >>
: >> Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
: >> way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
: >> a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
: >> to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
: >> make it smaller?
: >>
: >>
: >> -Michael
 
K

Kevin D.Cramton

...winston said:
I don't recall that it automatically overtook Office 2003 or 2007 as the
default email client

...winston
ms-mvp windows live mail
I agree with ...winston. Outlook 2k3 or any version of Outlook won't just go
quietly into the night. It will fight to retain control of your e-mail
functions. I have actually just installed WLM a few days ago in an attempt
to determine if it is the adequate successor of Outlook Express that it is
supposed to be. Having used OE for years, I am not to happy to have to give
it up due to lack of updates & support. The only good things I can say about
WLM is the Newsgroup functionality and support, Quickviews, and the fact
that it sure is pretty to look at compared to OE which I believe is still in
the old Royal typewriter Courier font! (No, not really.... I have to
apologize for employing hyperbole)

Actually, I like the old way of doing things. But (heavy sigh) it seems that
Microsoft keeps playing the product support game to the hilt and virus
purveyors continue to target their e-mail client software thus making it
necessary to keep abreast of security updates. Thus, I feel the need to keep
up with their changes in e-mail client platform.

KDC
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

Sounds like you selected the Windows Live Hotmail program.
I don't remember how WLM is labeled on that selection screen,
possibly "Mail" or "E-mail".

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Bob Newman said:
Now I'm really lost. I downloaded it (I thought it was email & newsreader)
turns out to be a browser + but where are my newsgroups? I told it not to
install email, was that a mistake? Are there instructions anyplace?

Bob

Gary VanderMolen said:
Careful with that "Windows Live" terminology because it includes a
whole suite of programs. Yes, Windows Live Mail includes the news reader.
--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Bob Newman said:
In going to that link and clicking Get Windows Live it takes me to a page
that asks what features to install and says nothing about newsgroups. At
first I thought that maybe that was just part of the basic package but
mail is something you are asked to check if you want it. Does Live Mail
still do newsgroups?

Bob

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


I've just been surfing Microsoft's web site and couldn't find it.
Could someone please give me specific directions to the WLM download?

Thanks... Bob

Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue
doing so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of
it. Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing
WLM that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically
take over as the default e-mail client or newsreader, does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
B

Buford T. Justice

Assuming you have turned on SHOW ALL MENUS, you simply click VIEW > CURRENT
VIEW to do this.

BT

MICHAEL said:
I agree with "Show All Messages"/"Hide Read Messages."
Maybe, the development team will come around to add
this. I can't believe there's not some heavy newsgroup readers
on the development team that agree with us.

I do like like the "Quick Views". I have "Unread watched news"
there and find that feature to be useful.

I just couldn't stand the horribly slow performance
of Windows Mail, and it wasn't just on one machine.

Hopefully, WLM will continue to improve even more.


-Michael

Gary VanderMolen said:
I use WM for newsgroups, WLM for mail. I make extensive use of
WM's feature that enables rapid switching between "Show All Messages"
and "Hide Read Messages." It is a shame that WLM didn't adopt that
handy feature.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


MICHAEL said:
IMO, compared to what it was and most definitely
when compared to WM, WLM has improved greatly.

Since I only use WLM for newsgroups, I may not be seeing
the same bugs you are experiencing. -Michael

I have found several bugs in this program...

it was not ready to go out of beta...

and the interface is still bad


Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?

Okay, I found how to get rid of the header.

The setting is under "Layout". I still wish it was
collapseable/expandable. Oh well, I am still pleased
with how well WLM seems to be working.


-Michael
 
B

Buford T. Justice

Why should it stay red? It should only do that if there is a new message in
a thread you have marked to watch.

BT
 
B

Buford T. Justice

Except for having a Windows Live ID. Usually by having an @msn.com or
@hotmail.com or @live.com e-mail address.

BT

Gary VanderMolen said:
Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Daze N. Knights said:
I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the
following opinion of WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy
into it. If you do, you're only furthering their goal of getting
everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees for online programs instead
of having them installed on your computer."
 
B

Buford T. Justice

My Outlook 2003 and WLM get along with each other fine. I might eventually
get rid of Outlook 2003 once WLM give us the option of storing POP3 e-mails
all in one place instead of mandatorily giving each account its own folder
tree.

BT
 
R

Ron Sommer

If you use WLM with Messenger, then what you say may be true.
I don't use Messenger, so I don't know.
I agree with Gary.

Did you have the hotmail address when you installed WLM?
--
Ronald Sommer

Buford T. Justice said:
Except for having a Windows Live ID. Usually by having an @msn.com or
@hotmail.com or @live.com e-mail address.

BT

Gary VanderMolen said:
Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Daze N. Knights said:
I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the
following opinion of WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy
into it. If you do, you're only furthering their goal of getting
everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees for online programs
instead of having them installed on your computer."



Daze N. Knights wrote:
Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue
doing so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of it.
Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing WLM
that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically take
over as the default e-mail client or newsreader, does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
M

MICHAEL

Right. But, that's not what Gary or I are talking about.


-Michael

Buford T. Justice said:
Assuming you have turned on SHOW ALL MENUS, you simply click VIEW > CURRENT VIEW to do this.

BT

MICHAEL said:
I agree with "Show All Messages"/"Hide Read Messages."
Maybe, the development team will come around to add
this. I can't believe there's not some heavy newsgroup readers
on the development team that agree with us.

I do like like the "Quick Views". I have "Unread watched news"
there and find that feature to be useful.

I just couldn't stand the horribly slow performance
of Windows Mail, and it wasn't just on one machine.

Hopefully, WLM will continue to improve even more.


-Michael

Gary VanderMolen said:
I use WM for newsgroups, WLM for mail. I make extensive use of
WM's feature that enables rapid switching between "Show All Messages"
and "Hide Read Messages." It is a shame that WLM didn't adopt that
handy feature.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


IMO, compared to what it was and most definitely
when compared to WM, WLM has improved greatly.

Since I only use WLM for newsgroups, I may not be seeing
the same bugs you are experiencing. -Michael

I have found several bugs in this program...

it was not ready to go out of beta...

and the interface is still bad


Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?

Okay, I found how to get rid of the header.

The setting is under "Layout". I still wish it was
collapseable/expandable. Oh well, I am still pleased
with how well WLM seems to be working.


-Michael
 
M

MICHAEL

Easily disabled.

Tools>Options>Connection>Connecting to Windows Live Services
"Stop signing in"


-Michael

Ron Sommer said:
If you use WLM with Messenger, then what you say may be true.
I don't use Messenger, so I don't know.
I agree with Gary.

Did you have the hotmail address when you installed WLM?
--
Ronald Sommer

Buford T. Justice said:
Except for having a Windows Live ID. Usually by having an @msn.com or @hotmail.com or
@live.com e-mail address.

BT

Gary VanderMolen said:
Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the following opinion of
WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy into it. If you do,
you're only furthering their goal of getting everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees
for online programs instead of having them installed on your computer."



Daze N. Knights wrote:
Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use Thunderbird for both
e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue doing so since I'm perfectly happy with my
own current setup, I would nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I
think of it. Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing WLM that
I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically take over as the default
e-mail client or newsreader, does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

Of course, but that requires mousing and three clicks to change state
each time. In WM it is only one click. As a very frequent responder in
some newsgroups, I find that using WLM tires my mouse hand, while
WM does not.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Buford T. Justice said:
Assuming you have turned on SHOW ALL MENUS, you simply click VIEW > CURRENT
VIEW to do this.

BT

MICHAEL said:
I agree with "Show All Messages"/"Hide Read Messages."
Maybe, the development team will come around to add
this. I can't believe there's not some heavy newsgroup readers
on the development team that agree with us.

I do like like the "Quick Views". I have "Unread watched news"
there and find that feature to be useful.

I just couldn't stand the horribly slow performance
of Windows Mail, and it wasn't just on one machine.

Hopefully, WLM will continue to improve even more.


-Michael

Gary VanderMolen said:
I use WM for newsgroups, WLM for mail. I make extensive use of
WM's feature that enables rapid switching between "Show All Messages"
and "Hide Read Messages." It is a shame that WLM didn't adopt that
handy feature.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


IMO, compared to what it was and most definitely
when compared to WM, WLM has improved greatly.

Since I only use WLM for newsgroups, I may not be seeing
the same bugs you are experiencing. -Michael

I have found several bugs in this program...

it was not ready to go out of beta...

and the interface is still bad


Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?

Okay, I found how to get rid of the header.

The setting is under "Layout". I still wish it was
collapseable/expandable. Oh well, I am still pleased
with how well WLM seems to be working.


-Michael
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

How so? I'm not aware of that requirement.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Buford T. Justice said:
Except for having a Windows Live ID. Usually by having an @msn.com or
@hotmail.com or @live.com e-mail address.

BT

Gary VanderMolen said:
Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Daze N. Knights said:
I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the
following opinion of WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy
into it. If you do, you're only furthering their goal of getting
everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees for online programs instead
of having them installed on your computer."



Daze N. Knights wrote:
Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue doing
so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of it.
Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing WLM
that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically take
over as the default e-mail client or newsreader, does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
W

...winston

My guess(fwiw) is that feature/option would not be priority especially since
a pop3 account's email can be filtered rather easily to a user created
folder.

---
...winston
ms-mp wlm

: My Outlook 2003 and WLM get along with each other fine. I might
eventually
: get rid of Outlook 2003 once WLM give us the option of storing POP3
e-mails
: all in one place instead of mandatorily giving each account its own folder
: tree.
:
: BT
:
: : >
: >
: > : >> I don't recall that it automatically overtook Office 2003 or 2007 as
the
: >> default email client
: >>
: >> ...winston
: >> ms-mvp windows live mail
: >>
: >>
: > I agree with ...winston. Outlook 2k3 or any version of Outlook won't
just
: > go quietly into the night. It will fight to retain control of your
e-mail
: > functions. I have actually just installed WLM a few days ago in an
attempt
: > to determine if it is the adequate successor of Outlook Express that it
is
: > supposed to be. Having used OE for years, I am not to happy to have to
: > give it up due to lack of updates & support. The only good things I can
: > say about WLM is the Newsgroup functionality and support, Quickviews,
and
: > the fact that it sure is pretty to look at compared to OE which I
believe
: > is still in the old Royal typewriter Courier font! (No, not really.... I
: > have to apologize for employing hyperbole)
: >
: > Actually, I like the old way of doing things. But (heavy sigh) it seems
: > that Microsoft keeps playing the product support game to the hilt and
: > virus purveyors continue to target their e-mail client software thus
: > making it necessary to keep abreast of security updates. Thus, I feel
the
: > need to keep up with their changes in e-mail client platform.
: >
: > KDC
: >
: >
: >
 
B

Buford T. Justice

Sounded like it to me, lol.

MICHAEL said:
Right. But, that's not what Gary or I are talking about.


-Michael

Buford T. Justice said:
Assuming you have turned on SHOW ALL MENUS, you simply click VIEW >
CURRENT VIEW to do this.

BT

MICHAEL said:
I agree with "Show All Messages"/"Hide Read Messages."
Maybe, the development team will come around to add
this. I can't believe there's not some heavy newsgroup readers
on the development team that agree with us.

I do like like the "Quick Views". I have "Unread watched news"
there and find that feature to be useful.

I just couldn't stand the horribly slow performance
of Windows Mail, and it wasn't just on one machine.

Hopefully, WLM will continue to improve even more.


-Michael

I use WM for newsgroups, WLM for mail. I make extensive use of
WM's feature that enables rapid switching between "Show All Messages"
and "Hide Read Messages." It is a shame that WLM didn't adopt that
handy feature.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


IMO, compared to what it was and most definitely
when compared to WM, WLM has improved greatly.

Since I only use WLM for newsgroups, I may not be seeing
the same bugs you are experiencing. -Michael

I have found several bugs in this program...

it was not ready to go out of beta...

and the interface is still bad


Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?

Okay, I found how to get rid of the header.

The setting is under "Layout". I still wish it was
collapseable/expandable. Oh well, I am still pleased
with how well WLM seems to be working.


-Michael
 
B

Buford T. Justice

I was replying to Gary's quote...

"There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's online services."

In which case yes you need a Windows Live ID assuming online means
Messenger, Hotmail, Calendar, etc.

MICHAEL said:
Easily disabled.

Tools>Options>Connection>Connecting to Windows Live Services
"Stop signing in"


-Michael

Ron Sommer said:
If you use WLM with Messenger, then what you say may be true.
I don't use Messenger, so I don't know.
I agree with Gary.

Did you have the hotmail address when you installed WLM?
--
Ronald Sommer

Buford T. Justice said:
Except for having a Windows Live ID. Usually by having an @msn.com or
@hotmail.com or @live.com e-mail address.

BT

Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the
following opinion of WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy
into it. If you do, you're only furthering their goal of getting
everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees for online programs
instead of having them installed on your computer."



Daze N. Knights wrote:
Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue
doing so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of
it. Are there any complications involved in downloading and
installing WLM that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance,
automatically take over as the default e-mail client or newsreader,
does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
B

Buford T. Justice

Hotmail, Messenger, Calendar, etc. Those are Microsoft online services.

Gary VanderMolen said:
How so? I'm not aware of that requirement.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


Buford T. Justice said:
Except for having a Windows Live ID. Usually by having an @msn.com or
@hotmail.com or @live.com e-mail address.

BT

Gary VanderMolen said:
Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the
following opinion of WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy
into it. If you do, you're only furthering their goal of getting
everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees for online programs
instead of having them installed on your computer."



Daze N. Knights wrote:
Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue
doing so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of
it. Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing
WLM that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically
take over as the default e-mail client or newsreader, does it?

Daze

MICHAEL wrote:
I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael
 
B

Buford T. Justice

It should be, if you have like more than 6 POP3 e-mail accounts all those
damn folders look awful, lol.
 
M

MICHAEL

Agreed. I use Outlook for email, and like OE and WM,
it automatically puts all pop email in one folder. I use
Outlook Connector to get my Hotmail in Outlook and
I don't mind that being a separate folder. But, things can
sure get cluttered quickly when you start adding multiple
pop emails in WLM. A lot of people have at least 3 email
addresses. Gmail, Hotmail, and their ISP (many have multiples
from there)... I don't know why the development team insists on
changing things from the way it has always been done. It should
at least be an option to have one Inbox or separate folders.
They've already given many OE users a conniption by removing
"Identities" from WM and WLM.


-Michael
 
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MICHAEL

MICHAEL said:
Agreed. I use Outlook for email, and like OE and WM,
it automatically puts all pop email in one folder. I use
Outlook Connector to get my Hotmail in Outlook and
I don't mind that being a separate folder. But, things can
sure get cluttered quickly when you start adding multiple
pop emails in WLM. A lot of people have at least 3 email
addresses. Gmail, Hotmail, and their ISP (many have multiples
from there)... I don't know why the development team insists on
changing things from the way it has always been done. It should
at least be an option to have one Inbox or separate folders.
They've already given many OE users a conniption by *removing*
"Identities" in WM and WLM.

"removing" in the sentence above should be "not including".


-Michael
 

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