Better.... much better.

[MICHAEL]

I've been a rather vocal critic of WLM and more so
with Vista's Windows Mail. I still would not recommend
WM, but WLM has made some definite improvements.

Since I typically use Outlook for email, my biggest use
for WLM is newsgroups. The overall performance has
improved dramatically. Thank you. I've been using
Thunderbird, but I may switch back to WLM.

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?


-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

Just one thing, for now, I sure do wish there was an easy
way to collapse the header bar like in Thunderbird... that's
a big chunk of screen space taken up that could be devoted
to the message I'm reading. Is there a way to get rid of it or
make it smaller?

Okay, I found how to get rid of the header.

The setting is under "Layout". I still wish it was
collapseable/expandable. Oh well, I am still pleased
with how well WLM seems to be working.


-Michael

 

[badvista]

I have found several bugs in this program...

it was not ready to go out of beta...

and the interface is still bad

 

[MICHAEL]

IMO, compared to what it was and most definitely
when compared to WM, WLM has improved greatly.

Since I only use WLM for newsgroups, I may not be seeing
the same bugs you are experiencing.

-Michael

 

[dennis@home]

I have found several bugs in this program...

it was not ready to go out of beta...

It isn't out of beta.
The latest version is WLM *beta*

and the interface is still bad

Personal choice.

 

[MICHAEL]

It isn't out of beta.
The latest version is WLM *beta*

It is out of beta... current version is 12.0.1606

http://www.windowslive.com/overview.html

Personal choice.

-Michael

 

[Ron Sommer]

Add "Folder pane to the toolbar.
This will allow collapsing and expanding the folder list.
I don't know how many newsgroups you use. You may be able to leave the
Folder list collapsed.

 

[Bob Newman]

Michael, perhaps you could reply as I also would only use WLM for
newsgroups. What are the significant advantages you see over Windows Mail?
One thing that particularly irritates me is that the newsgroup name in the
folder list on the left will not stay consistently red if you are "watching"
a thread. A MSoft MVP has confirmed this and says there is no workaround.
I tried WLM a little while back and it did the same thing. What are your
"likes" vs. WM?

Thanks in advance... Bob

 

[Daze N. Knights]

Hi, Michael:

Thanks for your latest impressions regarding WLM. Although I use
Thunderbird for both e-mail and newsgroups, and expect to continue doing
so since I'm perfectly happy with my own current setup, I would
nevertheless be interested in trying out WLM to see what I think of it.
Are there any complications involved in downloading and installing WLM
that I should be aware of? It doesn't, for instance, automatically take
over as the default e-mail client or newsreader, does it?

Daze

 

[Daze N. Knights]

I have a second question regarding WLM. What do you think about the
following opinion of WLM quoted from another newsgroup?

"It's a trick to get you to use Microsoft's online services. Don't buy
into it. If you do, you're only furthering their goal of getting
everybody to use thin clients and to pay fees for online programs
instead of having them installed on your computer."

 

[Bob Newman]

I've just been surfing Microsoft's web site and couldn't find it. Could
someone please give me specific directions to the WLM download?

Thanks... Bob

 

[badvista]

Bob.... WLM is CRAP and so is Windows Mail, the abominative distortion of
Outlook express.....

and I thought OE could not get worse!


You will see why WLM is crap when you have many email accounts and use
newsgroups too....

Its just not user friendly.. oh and its 10 times slower than outlook
express....

 

[Bob Newman]

Play nice nice. I'm really just looking for a newsreader I like. Oddly
enough I don't like Windows Mail; (Live or not) or Thunderbird. OE6 was the
best for me so far. Any suggestions?

Bob

 

[LarryE]

Don't listen to all those naysayers. Try it out for yourself. Here's the
link: http://get.live.com/wl/all

Good luck.

I've just been surfing Microsoft's web site and couldn't find it. Could
someone please give me specific directions to the WLM download?

Thanks... Bob

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

I use WM for newsgroups, WLM for mail. I make extensive use of
WM's feature that enables rapid switching between "Show All Messages"
and "Hide Read Messages." It is a shame that WLM didn't adopt that
handy feature.

 

[badvista]

yes, you should use XP and OE6

Vista is bad for other far more serious reasons that make windows mail
crappyness a joke...

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

WLM does take over as default email client and news reader, but
that is easily fixed.

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

Whoever wrote that obviously hasn't tried WLM.
There is no requirement to try or use any of Microsoft's
online services.

 

[Daze N. Knights]

Thanks for answering that question for me. So, it does automatically
take over as default without asking you if that's what you want?