Acf Wiki - ideas please

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Susan Bugher

Mark Carter's Acf Wiki is located here:

http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki

IMO people might use the wiki more if it was hosted at the PWH site.
Would a wiki be a useful addition to the Pricelessware Home site?

Mark would like input from acf participants. My suggestions (copied from
another thread):

"IMO the WIKI could be useful for info that is reposted often in a
relatively short period of time - for instance, fairly recently there
were quite a few reposts listing some additional servers for AVG's
automatic updater.

Perhaps also useful for threads listing programs in a category (WYSIWYG
editors, dual pane file managers etc.). The WIKI might be a good place
to assemble a summary - the summary could then be posted in ACF.

Please post your suggestions and comments. . .

TIA :)

Susan
 
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Susan Bugher

I would be more likely to use it if there was more _to_ use. Yes, I
know I could add something now; but I'm less likely to if there's
nothing much already on the wiki.
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the chicken and the egg. . . :)

Question for Mark - could the wiki be used as a guest book? If so, how?

Susan
 
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Dan Goodman

the chicken and the egg. . . :)
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I think all that would be needed to get things going is a sentence or two
explaining that Microsoft programs are flawless....
 
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Aaron

I would be more likely to use it if there was more _to_ use. Yes, I
know I could add something now; but I'm less likely to if there's
nothing much already on the wiki.
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I would agree. I'm not that comfort with Wkiki myself, but if they were
already a proper layout with pages etc created, I might be more inclined
to help fill it up with material.
 
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Susan Bugher

Aaron said:
I would agree. I'm not that comfort with Wkiki myself, but if they were
already a proper layout with pages etc created, I might be more inclined
to help fill it up with material.
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What *kind* of material would you be interested in having there? ISTM
that will determine the layout.

Susan
 
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Susan Bugher

Mark said:
Like so:
http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GuestBook
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Yes. :) :) :)
Have you used a wiki before?
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A very few times - IOW I'm pretty clueless. . .

Am I right in thinking that you create the pages and visitors edit them?
How does navigation work? Do you create links to the various pages?

Perhaps there could be pages for programs (BUSINESS-HOME, DESKTOP etc.)
where people could comment on apps they have tested?

Susan
 
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burnr

I would agree. I'm not that comfort with Wkiki myself, but if they were
already a proper layout with pages etc created, I might be more inclined
to help fill it up with material.
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Me too. I've seen them but never really *followed one* and have never
posted to one either. It looks easy enough of course.

It's an interesting idea though and I can see where it could be a very
useful resource.
 
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burnr

A very few times - IOW I'm pretty clueless. . .

Am I right in thinking that you create the pages and visitors edit them?
How does navigation work? Do you create links to the various pages?

Perhaps there could be pages for programs (BUSINESS-HOME, DESKTOP etc.)
where people could comment on apps they have tested?
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lol me too. I'm thinking this thing looks like it could be really useful
though. A way of organizing reviews/user comments of freeware could be a
nice resource.
 
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Mark Carter

Have you used a wiki before?
A very few times - IOW I'm pretty clueless. . .

Am I right in thinking that you create the pages and visitors edit them?
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Anyone can create pages, and anyone can edit them.

I created GuestBook as a normal wiki user. No special administrator
privileges were required on my part.
How does navigation work? Do you create links to the various pages?
Read
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiGettingStartedFaq

Perhaps there could be pages for programs (BUSINESS-HOME, DESKTOP etc.)
where people could comment on apps they have tested?
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Yes. There's nothing to stop visitors arranging stuff exactly how they want.
 
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Susan Bugher

Mark said:
Anyone can create pages, and anyone can edit them.

I created GuestBook as a normal wiki user. No special administrator
privileges were required on my part.


Read
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiGettingStartedFaq
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I will, I will. It's looks like that will require some time.

ATM I'm mainly interested in ideas about *content* for the wiki.
Yes. There's nothing to stop visitors arranging stuff exactly how they
want.
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*Very* good. Some great posts are made to ACF - it's often difficult to
find them later. The wiki sounds like a good place for copies of those
posts. We could start off with a few pages and people could reorganize
them as more posts are added - delete outdated info etc.

How soon can you start? :)

Susan
 
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Henk de Jong

Susan Bugher wrote on 20-8-2004 :
Mark Carter's Acf Wiki is located here:

http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki
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Please correct me when I am wrong, but do we (ACF) really need this?
Don't we already have a discussion group (ACFD)?

I must say that I'm happy with all kind of initiatives concerning ACF,
but aren't we going a little too far when we discuss all kind of issues
in other places instead of ACF?

When somebody likes to "lauch" something, why don't we make some kind
of a 'charter' that could be helpfull for 'new' visitors to ACF. Just a
message, repeated on a weekly basis, about the FAQ (and the anti-FAQ),
about the Pricelesswaresites, about ACFD and ACFG, about the
unmoderated status of these groups, about <snipping>-rules, (maybe
about my great site) and so on.

With kind regards,

--
Henk de Jong
The Netherlands
(e-mail address removed) (Remove _NO_SPAM_)
'Links to Freeware'
http://www.linkstofreeware.nl/
http://www.linkstofreeware.vze.com/
http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/
 
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H.M.A. (Dick) Hazeleger

Henk said:
Susan Bugher wrote on 20-8-2004 :

Please correct me when I am wrong, but do we (ACF) really need this?
Don't we already have a discussion group (ACFD)?

I must say that I'm happy with all kind of initiatives concerning
ACF, but aren't we going a little too far when we discuss all kind of
issues in other places instead of ACF?

When somebody likes to "lauch" something, why don't we make some kind
of a 'charter' that could be helpfull for 'new' visitors to ACF. Just
a message, repeated on a weekly basis, about the FAQ (and the
anti-FAQ), about the Pricelesswaresites, about ACFD and ACFG, about
the unmoderated status of these groups, about <snipping>-rules,
(maybe about my great site) and so on.

With kind regards,
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Sounds like a very fine idea, Henk! I'm with ya!

Dick
 
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Martin DeMello

Susan Bugher said:
Mark Carter's Acf Wiki is located here:

http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki

IMO people might use the wiki more if it was hosted at the PWH site.
Would a wiki be a useful addition to the Pricelessware Home site?
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If the wiki is moved to the PWH site, I'd also suggest changing the
engine to something with a little more visual appeal (my personal
recommendations are MoinMoin [http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/] or TWiki
[http://twiki.org/]) - much as I love the c2 wiki itself, the engine's
minimalist look could be offputting, and there are some advanced
features in the newer wikis that are really nice to have.

martin
 
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Mark Carter

Henk said:
When somebody likes to "lauch" something, why don't we make some kind of
a 'charter' that could be helpfull for 'new' visitors to ACF. Just a
message, repeated on a weekly basis, about the FAQ (and the anti-FAQ),
about the Pricelesswaresites, about ACFD and ACFG, about the unmoderated
status of these groups, about <snipping>-rules,
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Did you have in mind a weekly posting under the control of one person,
or under collaborative control?

If you meant something written collaboratively, then my prior suggestion
of having a wiki page called WeeklyPosting might be to your liking. I
could automate it so that the contents of just that page are posted to
the newsgroup every week.

There are pros and cons of making a weekly posting under the control of
one person as opposed to a collaboratively edited posting -- I've leave
the merits and demerits as an exercise for the reader.
(maybe about my great
site) and so on.
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I link to you to from my Freeware page. To my mind, it's the single-most
logical place for me to point to, because it contains a list of other
freeware websites. I generally go the the "5 star" section.
 
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Martin DeMello

Mark Carter said:
If the wiki is moved to the PWH site, I'd also suggest changing the
engine to something with a little more visual appeal (my personal
recommendations are MoinMoin [http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/]
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MoinMoin is written python, a language not supported by the
Pricelessware hosts :(
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That's sad - it's a great wiki :( How about perl? TWiki is pure perl
and seems pretty good (I've just started evaluating it for use within
the company, and thus far I like what I've seen of it). Plus, in the
spirit of the ng, some of the plugins look like they'd be fun to play
with :)

martin
 

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