0x800ccc0e & 0x800ccc0d

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mac

You will be much better off, if you intend to use only your live.co.uk
address, stick to WLM,
The newsgroup that supports it is
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

You can set up your wife's account in that.
 
A

andy t

No I have not gone to the news groups address yet, but I will be very shortly
and will have a look at it.

Okay, I'll get the fact that Window's mail will not work with Windows live
mail, but I got a little confused, what did you mean when I asked you in my
third question further down in this post. I assumed that you meant that
copies of my e-mail in the live account would also be stored like an archive
in my mail account?

If you scroll further down, I will show you where you posted it.

HERE below is the question of I asked you?: -AND THIS was your reply below?: -
 
M

mac

andy t said:
No I have not gone to the news groups address yet, but I will be very
shortly
and will have a look at it.

Okay, I'll get the fact that Window's mail will not work with Windows live
mail, but I got a little confused, what did you mean when I asked you in
my
third question further down in this post. I assumed that you meant that
copies of my e-mail in the live account would also be stored like an
archive
in my mail account?

If you scroll further down, I will show you where you posted it.

HERE below is the question of I asked you?: -
AND THIS was your reply below?: -

Hi Andy, I can see how I might have confused you initially, sorry about
that.

">> > that Copies of the "live Mail" account can also go into the "Mail"
account"

I ASSumed that you where talking about the "Mail Programs", "live Mail" &
"Mail", since you where not explicit at that stage that it was in fact a
live.co.uk account, it was an easy mistake to make?

I use both programs in the way that I described for you to do it, but with
all my POP accounts in both programs, and my many live.co.uk and Hotmail
accounts are only in WLM.
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

mac said:
[big snip]
Configuration:

Account: NNTP
Server: microsoft.communities.com
User name: my "(e-mail address removed)
Protocol: NNTP
Port: 119
Secure(SSL): 0
Code: 800ccc0e

I believe that this is all the information you need. Perhaps now you can
tell me where I am going wrong ?


Regarding your news account, go to tools>accounts>news section>select
it>properties>server tab>and change microsoft.communities.com to
msnews.microsoft.com>apply>OK.

In addition to changing the name of the news server, leave the username
and password fields for that account blank.
 
F

Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

andy t said:
I have put my comment in line Frank.
--
andy t


Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE said:
andy,
In addition to what mac said, you have used invalid names for your
servers.
So with the information I gave, can you not tell me what the valid names
for my
servers are? Or what and where I type in to the panes I mention in each
case?

From

You get the server names from your mail provider. Enter them from the
Properties of the account under Tools | Accounts
 
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andy t

I must thank you guy's for persevering with this problem that I have: -

Regarding the newsgroups Gary, I have put all the information you posted
into the correct pane's, and now I get an information bar saying, " you are
not subscribed to any newsgroups in this account. Would you like to view a
list of available news groups now?". So I pressed the yes option,
and it brought up Hundreds !

I tried typing in msnews.microsoft.com, but nothing came up, so my question
is, do I have to subscribe to all of them? I didn't try this, I wanted to
check with you guy's first.

Preceding all this, when I first clicked On "Window's mail", the original
error messages that I have been telling you about, came up again. However !,
I have only just realised that in my inbox, there sits a welcome letter from
the "Microsoft mail team" telling me that Window's mail is the successor to
Window's Outlook Express. It then describes in great detail how to set it
all up. So I should have a good read of this first before I bother you guys
again.

"To be Continued, at a Cinema near you" LOL!


--
andy t


Gary VanderMolen said:
mac said:
[big snip]
Configuration:

Account: NNTP
Server: microsoft.communities.com
User name: my "(e-mail address removed)
Protocol: NNTP
Port: 119
Secure(SSL): 0
Code: 800ccc0e

I believe that this is all the information you need. Perhaps now you can
tell me where I am going wrong ?


Regarding your news account, go to tools>accounts>news section>select
it>properties>server tab>and change microsoft.communities.com to
msnews.microsoft.com>apply>OK.

In addition to changing the name of the news server, leave the username
and password fields for that account blank.
 
M

mac

andy t said:
I must thank you guy's for persevering with this problem that I have: - ..

"To be Continued, at a Cinema near you" LOL!

Well Andy I will not be there, I can assure you.

I really was hoping that you had moved over to the live.desktop newsgroup.
:))

Just go back to tools>newsgroups, and type in - mail.d - click subscribe.
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

msnews.microsoft.com is not a newsgroup name, it is a news server name.
When you see the list of newsgroups, just scroll down the list until you see
one you like, then subscribe to it, or if you know the name of one you want
just start typing a part of the newsgroup name, and it will show you all the
ones that match what you have typed.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


andy t said:
I must thank you guy's for persevering with this problem that I have: -

Regarding the newsgroups Gary, I have put all the information you posted
into the correct pane's, and now I get an information bar saying, " you are
not subscribed to any newsgroups in this account. Would you like to view a
list of available news groups now?". So I pressed the yes option,
and it brought up Hundreds !

I tried typing in msnews.microsoft.com, but nothing came up, so my question
is, do I have to subscribe to all of them? I didn't try this, I wanted to
check with you guy's first.

Preceding all this, when I first clicked On "Window's mail", the original
error messages that I have been telling you about, came up again. However !,
I have only just realised that in my inbox, there sits a welcome letter from
the "Microsoft mail team" telling me that Window's mail is the successor to
Window's Outlook Express. It then describes in great detail how to set it
all up. So I should have a good read of this first before I bother you guys
again.

"To be Continued, at a Cinema near you" LOL!


--
andy t


Gary VanderMolen said:
mac said:
[big snip]
Configuration:

Account: NNTP
Server: microsoft.communities.com
User name: my "(e-mail address removed)
Protocol: NNTP
Port: 119
Secure(SSL): 0
Code: 800ccc0e

I believe that this is all the information you need. Perhaps now you can
tell me where I am going wrong ?


Regarding your news account, go to tools>accounts>news section>select
it>properties>server tab>and change microsoft.communities.com to
msnews.microsoft.com>apply>OK.

In addition to changing the name of the news server, leave the username
and password fields for that account blank.
 
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andy t

Mac, why have you been insisting that I move over to the
live.desktop.newsgroup?
Have you got shares with them or something.

Ok, regarding the newsgroups:- I tried both routes, Yours Gary and Yours Mac.

They both worked but, one of them was bringing up not just the English
language posts, but other foreign language posts as well. Very strange?

Any way, that worked and I think I can figure out what one's to pick.

I then tried to exit "Windows mail" I get A yellow error sign! This one.
tells me: - "one or more messages in your outbox do not have a valid account
specified, would you like to use your default account to send these
messages?" So I clicked "yes"

and it brought up "You have unsent messages in your outbox, would you like
to send them now?" I then clicked "yes" and low and behold!, it showed the
icon of a tray sending messages, and after that it brought up the original
error messages that I posted in my earlier posts regarding the "pop3"etc.
It's Like a vicious circle.

I read all the welcoming letter from Microsoft, but I'm still none the
wiser. What would happen if I left certain Panes blank instead of having
"pop3" typed in?
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

Sounds like you have some corrupted messages sitting in the Outbox.
Open the Outbox folder. Inspect the messages in that folder. If you want to
save any of them, move them to the Drafts folder. Delete the rest.
 
A

andy t

Gary, that worked!, I deleted my messages in my out box, and it stopped those
little annoying information bars coming up.

I now have only one error message. It's when I first open "Windows mail".
When it first opens, it opens in my inbox showing the welcoming message from
Microsoft, I don't know if this is significant or normal. Anyway, within
seconds of "Mail" opening up, an error message pops up saying:-

The host 'POP3' could not be found. Please verify that you have entered the
server name correctly.
Account: 'POP3', Server: 'POP3', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No,
Socket Error: 11001, Error Number: 0x800CCC0D

Could you point me in the right direction as to rectifying this problem? If
you can, then I believe that all the problems with my "Mail", will be sorted.

Thanks
 
M

mac

andy t said:
Gary, that worked!, I deleted my messages in my out box, and it stopped
those
little annoying information bars coming up.

I now have only one error message. It's when I first open "Windows mail".
When it first opens, it opens in my inbox showing the welcoming message
from
Microsoft, I don't know if this is significant or normal. Anyway, within
seconds of "Mail" opening up, an error message pops up saying:-

The host 'POP3' could not be found. Please verify that you have entered
the
server name correctly.
Account: 'POP3', Server: 'POP3', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL):
No,
Socket Error: 11001, Error Number: 0x800CCC0D

Could you point me in the right direction as to rectifying this problem?
If
you can, then I believe that all the problems with my "Mail", will be
sorted.

Thanks

Andy, I really hope that you deleted the live.co.uk account from WM, go to
tools>accounts>select the account>remove.

Do you have any other accounts that are set up in WM mail section?
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

The error message below occurs because there is not a valid
mail server name specified.

Go to Tools, Accounts, inspect that "POP3" account. Is it a rogue
account? If so, delete it. If not, get the correct mail server name for
that account.
 
A

andy t

Mac, I owe you a great apology, I told you I was a dumb beginner, that was
it, that's all it was, and the penny didn't drop till now. You and Gary are
Gods!! Where I am a mere mortal Englishman.

I now understand what you guys were trying to tell me.

Mac, in answer to your question, I have no other accounts in WM mail
section. So when you said to move over to the "live.desktop newsgroup. Were
you trying to tell me to acquire that newsgroup from the newsgroup list? If
you were, then now I understand.

So guy's, if I were to go to any of the other Microsoft forums that were of
interest to me, say for example: "Window's Vista Speech Recognition" in
"Windows Vista General Discussion", if the group exists, I only have to type
in a few words relating to it, and it will show up in the window select pane,
I can then add it to my other newsgroup listings ? I think this is it isn't
it ? So window's "Mail" Is in effect, specifically aimed at Microsoft
newsgroups ?



Is that all WM Is created for? Or has it other uses besides the newsgroup
Favourites we pick for it? Just explain this last bit of confusion I have. I
saw somewhere by clicking tools, accounts, there was an option to check a
small box which would of enabled the "leave a copy on server". Which I
assumed Meant That a copy Of my messages On my window's live Account, would
automatically leave a copy of the e-mail in my WM account. Am I getting
confused here ? Or am I thinking of a completely different application and
barking up the wrong tree?

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks once more for all your help. - - anby t
 
M

mac

andy t said:
Mac, I owe you a great apology, I told you I was a dumb beginner, that was
it, that's all it was, and the penny didn't drop till now. You and Gary
are
Gods!! Where I am a mere mortal Englishman.

Andy, you are really having a tough time with all of this, aren't you?

I am now at the stage where I will offer you some help, via private email,
that is, if you have an email address?

Ahh! you have the ******@live.co.uk address on the web?

Send me a message to mack at live dot co dot uk, from that address.

I will then do my best to get you set up and working.

"I am a mere mortal Englishman", me like you too Andy, and I hate to see
anyone struggle!!

Hopefully you can figure out my email address?

When you simply write to me I will respond.
 
L

lypolintan74

andy t said:
Ok, I know you experts have answered this loads of times and are probably
getting fed up with this same question.

In windows mail, I have "pop3" and "smtp" for incoming & out going e-mail.
I know by scrolling through some of the answers here, that you are probably
going to ask me to post the whole error message in full which I will do in
due course. I would however, like to know how to stop these error messages
appearing, 0x800ccc0e and 0x800ccc0d, any ideas?

I come at this question from a different angle though. I have an account
with "Windows live Mail" and this works great, I can send and receive e-mails
with no problem. So my first question is, "Do I really need windows mail as
well"? Secondly, "Is it any use to keep it, as it shows up In my "start
menu" ? Thirdly, Can it be used In conjunction with "Windows live Mail" so
that Copies of the "live Mail" account can also go into the "Mail" account
So rendering the "Mail" account like an archive, so if I accidentally delete
an e-mail in my "live mail" account, there still will be a copy on the
"Windows Mail" account ?

Apart from this, I have had a hell of a time trying to get into these
discussion groups, I got in through an error message
instead of the usual way I use to, which was to go to "Windows help and
support" and then click on"microsoft communities". In this case, I think I
might of clicked on something that I shouldn't have. If I have filled in the
newsgroup information wrongly or I have accidentally Clicked on the newsgroup
in the "accounts" section of "Windows Mail" properties and Inadvertently
clicked on something, either way, I am asking, how do I Put this right, What
information should I put in, to put this right? Are the news groups uniquely
linked To the "Windows Mail" program and should I keep it for this reason?
Or should I simply delete it altogether as I do not need it at all ? I know
you will be reading this and thinking "What a dummy and another nutter", but
I am sure that one of the knowledgeable MVP's In these forums will know
exactly what i am on about? Having said that, any and all helpful replies
are welcome. Thanks in advance
 
R

R. C. White

Hi, Andy.

Congratulations on getting here! You sure did it the hard way! ;^}

Click here:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail

That one click should:
1. Fire up your default newsreader (Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail -
whichever you've set in Default Programs).
2. Create a News Account for this Microsoft public news server, which is
free and does not require you to log on.
3. Connect you to THIS newsgroup, microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail -
which is the NG for peer-to-peer support for the Windows Mail application.
(For Windows Live Mail, visit microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop )
4. Download the 300 latest posts in this NG.
5. Display the newest message in the Reading Pane for you.

After you get to this point, read through a few messages here, then play
around with the settings, especially in View and Tools | Options. Customize
WM or WLM to fit the way YOU use newsgroups.

Note that WM and WLM are newsreaders, NOT browsers, so the appearance will
be different, but you will be looking at exactly the same messages as in the
Microsoft Communities or discussion groups. These actually are Usenet
newsgroups, but the browser's web-based interface puts a different
appearance on them. I like the newsreader better; you can make up you own
mind about that. But, whether you use WM or WLM or IE or a third-party
application, you are looking at the same messages.

Windows Mail (WM) and Windows Live Mail (WLM) are different applications,
despite the confusingly-similar name and appearance. WM is an integral part
of Vista and can't be deleted (although it can be ignored). WLM is a part
of Windows Live Essentials; it is not a part of any version of Windows, but
it can be downloaded (www.download.live.com) and installed in any recent
version. WLM and WM can run side by side, and many users (including myself)
have run them both for a while until we settled on one. They maintain
completely separate databases and Registry keys, so they do not conflict
with each other. (For future reference, Windows 7 will have NO newsreader
or email program built in, but it can download and run WLM - or a
third-party application. Some users have managed to install and use WM in
Win7, but this is not supported by Microsoft - at least, not yet.)

All that doesn’t get to your error messages, Andy. Maybe a real guru will
be along to handle that soon. But your best approach will probably be to
post your question again in a new thread when you get WM or WLM working.

Welcome to the Newsgroups! ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
 
T

t-4-2

Can't answer your error message question without the message.
I'll try to answer the rest :
" Do I really need windows mail as well"? Secondly, "Is it any use to keep
it, as it shows up In my "start menu" ?
Answer : You may not NEED it, but you HAVE to keep it. Windows Mail is part
of the system, cannot be removed. If for ant reason you do not want to see
it on your Start menu, open Start menu, right click on Windows Mail, click "
Remove from this list ".
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
" Thirdly, Can it be used In conjunction with "Windows live Mail" so that
Copies of the "live Mail" account can also go into the "Mail" account So
rendering the "Mail" account like an archive, so if I accidentally delete an
e-mail in my "live mail" account, there still will be a copy on the
"Windows Mail" account ?
Answer : Yes. You can leave a copy at the server. Here is how :
Tools > Accounts > highlight your account > Properties > Advanced. Look to
the bottom, put a checkmark on " Leave a copy of messages on server. "> OK
Make sure you do the same procedures on BOTH accounts, Windows Mail and
Windows Live mail.
t-4-2
 
M

mac

Hi RC, this post is not from Andy t, someone quoted it without doing a
reply.
See your mailbox for an explanation.

mac
 

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