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Shenan Stanley
Maxwell said:
Will any of your applications benefit from it?
In other words - how much "written for 64bit" software are you currently
running?
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Will any of your applications benefit from it?
In other words - how much "written for 64bit" software are you currently
running?
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Shenan Stanley
Maxwell said:Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for
editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS
versus using XP Pro?
It's a little old - but makes its points still..
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/08/23/windows_xp_x64/index.html
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philo
Maxwell said:Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for editing
HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus using XP Pro?
Unless you have 64bit software...I'd just go with the 32bit version of XP.
I recently built a 64bit machine and it's dual-booting XP_32 and XP_64.
Since all my apps are 32bit...I can't really tell any difference in
performance between the 2 versions of XP.
Although I was able to get drivers for all devices within the machine (such
as motherboard & video card, etc)...
I have no support on the 64bit version for periphery devices such as printer
and scanner.
K
Kerry Brown
Maxwell said:Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for
editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus
using XP Pro?
Thanks!
Max.
You won't see much difference right now. You will probably struggle with
finding drivers. Some programs may be incompatible. All that said your
application, video editing, is one application that will benefit from 64 bit
processing once the dust has settled. 64 bit CPUs and OS' support more than
4 GB of RAM which will speed up video editing. Check out the if the program
you are using for video editing has a 64 bit version. If it does XP64 is
probably the way to go. If you go this way make sure all your hardware
particulary the video card and video capture card have 64 bit drivers
available.
Kerry
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ByTor
Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for editing
HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus using XP Pro?
Thanks!
Max.
Wait a bit before doing anything with a 64bit OS.....First "majorily"
used prog I went to install would not......I could imagine what would
happen if I went furthur with other applications......Had to wait
serveral months for ATI to put out the proper driver for my video card,
one that installed without errors......It's presumably working correct
but who knows..........
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Brian A.
First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit compatible,
there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However if you have
purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't know and can't say
since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with it the
one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
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there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However if you have
purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't know and can't say
since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with it the
one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
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Kerry Brown
Brian said:First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However
if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't
know and can't say since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with
it the one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
Kerry
J
Jared Foster
Considering almost every new processor out there has some form of 64-bit
support it's kind of hard to not buy one, even if it isn't a good time as
you say.
support it's kind of hard to not buy one, even if it isn't a good time as
you say.
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Phil Weldon
The Intel website would clear up your misunderstanding.
| Brian A. wrote:
| > First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
| > compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However
| > if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't
| > know and can't say since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
| > Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
| > processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with
| > it the one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
| >
| >
| > | >> Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for
| >> editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus
| >> using XP Pro?
| >>
| >> Thanks!
| >> Max.
|
| I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
|
| Kerry
|
|
| Brian A. wrote:
| > First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
| > compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However
| > if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't
| > know and can't say since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
| > Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
| > processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with
| > it the one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
| >
| >
| > | >> Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for
| >> editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus
| >> using XP Pro?
| >>
| >> Thanks!
| >> Max.
|
| I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
|
| Kerry
|
|
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Kerry Brown
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Brian A.
That's true that most now support 64bit, yet there are still plenty of
32bits to go around. It's a catch 22, purchase a 32bit which you know is
aging or purchase a 64bit compatible that you know is aging. I'd wait
awhile unless or until it became necessary.
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32bits to go around. It's a catch 22, purchase a 32bit which you know is
aging or purchase a 64bit compatible that you know is aging. I'd wait
awhile unless or until it became necessary.
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Brian A.
You're correct. I've looked at so many cpu's and mobo's in the past
couple of days to rebuild a machine in a micro-atx box, the head is
spinning.
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couple of days to rebuild a machine in a micro-atx box, the head is
spinning.
--
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Jared Foster
We are talking computers...everything is aging. I'm not saying go buy the
most expensive chip on the market, but also not to shortchange himself by
going with something that doesn't have 64-bit support (which at this point
means Celeron or Sempron). I see no catch 22 at all...at least not one
that's been around since day one...buy the best you can afford but know that
it's going to be obsolete someday.
most expensive chip on the market, but also not to shortchange himself by
going with something that doesn't have 64-bit support (which at this point
means Celeron or Sempron). I see no catch 22 at all...at least not one
that's been around since day one...buy the best you can afford but know that
it's going to be obsolete someday.
M
Maxwell
Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for editing
HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus using XP Pro?
Thanks!
Max.
HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS versus using XP Pro?
Thanks!
Max.
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Phil Weldon
Yes, misunderstanding, A Pentium D has two 32-bit CPUs on the same core,
with 64-bit address extended support. They are NOT 64 bit CPUs.
An Intel Itanium is a 64-bit CPU.
Phil Weldon
| No misunderstanding
|
| http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_D/
|
| Kerry
|
| Phil Weldon wrote:
| > The Intel website would clear up your misunderstanding.
| >
| > | >> Brian A. wrote:
| >>> First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
| >>> compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However
| >>> if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't
| >>> know and can't say since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
| >>> Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
| >>> processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with
| >>> it the one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for
| >>>> editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS
| >>>> versus using XP Pro?
| >>>>
| >>>> Thanks!
| >>>> Max.
| >>
| >> I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
| >>
| >> Kerry
|
|
|
with 64-bit address extended support. They are NOT 64 bit CPUs.
An Intel Itanium is a 64-bit CPU.
Phil Weldon
| No misunderstanding
|
| http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_D/
|
| Kerry
|
| Phil Weldon wrote:
| > The Intel website would clear up your misunderstanding.
| >
| > | >> Brian A. wrote:
| >>> First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
| >>> compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out. However
| >>> if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be 64bit, don't
| >>> know and can't say since you never mentioned Manufacturer/Name.
| >>> Secondly, now isn't really a good time to spend money on a 64bit
| >>> processor. By the time enough hardware/software is compatible with
| >>> it the one purchased today is tomorrows old news.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip for
| >>>> editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS
| >>>> versus using XP Pro?
| >>>>
| >>>> Thanks!
| >>>> Max.
| >>
| >> I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
| >>
| >> Kerry
|
|
|
M
Maxwell
Thanks for the reply, Shenan! OK, let me re-phrase the question. Is the
Pentium D a 64-bit processor that can take advantage of the XP64 64-bit
throughput? Or, is the Pentium D simply two 32-bit processors that do not
add up to a combined 64-bit? The software end is not totally applicable,
because even if I do not have a 64-bit capable program today, does not mean
I won't have one tomorrow. The high-end video editing programs for High
Definition TV use an enormous amount of computing power.
Thanks again, Shenan!
Max.
Pentium D a 64-bit processor that can take advantage of the XP64 64-bit
throughput? Or, is the Pentium D simply two 32-bit processors that do not
add up to a combined 64-bit? The software end is not totally applicable,
because even if I do not have a 64-bit capable program today, does not mean
I won't have one tomorrow. The high-end video editing programs for High
Definition TV use an enormous amount of computing power.
Thanks again, Shenan!
Max.
K
Kerry Brown
Technically you are right. In the real world the OS treats them as a 64 bit
CPU. My original post about video editing being one application that can use
the extra memory support still stands.
Kerry
CPU. My original post about video editing being one application that can use
the extra memory support still stands.
Kerry
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NoNoBadDog!
*ALL* Semprons released on desktops since July 2005 *ARE 64 BIT*
There continue to be 32 bit Semprons in laptops.
ALL Desktop Semprons *ARE 64 BIT*.
Bobby
There continue to be 32 bit Semprons in laptops.
ALL Desktop Semprons *ARE 64 BIT*.
Bobby
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Phil Weldon
Only if you use your own special definitions. Also you should carefully
examine video editing for the actual benefit of more than 8 GBytes of flat
address space. Instructions using 64-bit address space slows execution for
several reasons. While a transaction processing system might show benefits
(large data base, multiple simultaneous requests, little processing), video
editing is a different kind of animal.
Phil Weldon
| Technically you are right. In the real world the OS treats them as a 64
bit
| CPU. My original post about video editing being one application that can
use
| the extra memory support still stands.
|
| Kerry
|
| Phil Weldon wrote:
| > Yes, misunderstanding, A Pentium D has two 32-bit CPUs on the same
| > core, with 64-bit address extended support. They are NOT 64 bit CPUs.
| >
| > An Intel Itanium is a 64-bit CPU.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > | >> No misunderstanding
| >>
| >> http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_D/
| >>
| >> Kerry
| >>
| >> Phil Weldon wrote:
| >>> The Intel website would clear up your misunderstanding.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Brian A. wrote:
| >>>>> First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
| >>>>> compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out.
| >>>>> However if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be
| >>>>> 64bit, don't know and can't say since you never mentioned
| >>>>> Manufacturer/Name. Secondly, now isn't really a good time to
| >>>>> spend money on a 64bit processor. By the time enough
| >>>>> hardware/software is compatible with it the one purchased today
| >>>>> is tomorrows old news.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> | >>>>>> Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip
| >>>>>> for editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS
| >>>>>> versus using XP Pro?
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Thanks!
| >>>>>> Max.
| >>>>
| >>>> I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
| >>>>
| >>>> Kerry
|
|
|
examine video editing for the actual benefit of more than 8 GBytes of flat
address space. Instructions using 64-bit address space slows execution for
several reasons. While a transaction processing system might show benefits
(large data base, multiple simultaneous requests, little processing), video
editing is a different kind of animal.
Phil Weldon
| Technically you are right. In the real world the OS treats them as a 64
bit
| CPU. My original post about video editing being one application that can
use
| the extra memory support still stands.
|
| Kerry
|
| Phil Weldon wrote:
| > Yes, misunderstanding, A Pentium D has two 32-bit CPUs on the same
| > core, with 64-bit address extended support. They are NOT 64 bit CPUs.
| >
| > An Intel Itanium is a 64-bit CPU.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > | >> No misunderstanding
| >>
| >> http://www.intel.com/products/processor/pentium_D/
| >>
| >> Kerry
| >>
| >> Phil Weldon wrote:
| >>> The Intel website would clear up your misunderstanding.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Brian A. wrote:
| >>>>> First things first, a dual core processor does not mean 64bit
| >>>>> compatible, there are many 32bit dual core processors out.
| >>>>> However if you have purchased a newer one it may very well be
| >>>>> 64bit, don't know and can't say since you never mentioned
| >>>>> Manufacturer/Name. Secondly, now isn't really a good time to
| >>>>> spend money on a 64bit processor. By the time enough
| >>>>> hardware/software is compatible with it the one purchased today
| >>>>> is tomorrows old news.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> | >>>>>> Putting together a machine based on a Pentium D dual core chip
| >>>>>> for editing HDV video. Is there benefit to going with an XP64 OS
| >>>>>> versus using XP Pro?
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> Thanks!
| >>>>>> Max.
| >>>>
| >>>> I believe the Pentium D is 64 bit.
| >>>>
| >>>> Kerry
|
|
|
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Jared Foster
Thanks for the clarification...just goes to show that it's hard to find
something that isn't 64-bit these days...
something that isn't 64-bit these days...
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