XP - Win98se networking problem with DSL

[WindowsXP-he]

Really exhausted troubleshooting this prob. I have combed the 98 netwoking
newsgroup posts, practrically networked webpages and Netgear webpages for a
fix, but find no fix, so far. Here is the scenario.....

I have three machines connected through a Netgear MR814 router, two are
wireless the other cabled .

Dell Inspiron 4150 with a truemobile wireless card running..... WinXPhe
Dell Optiplex Gx1 cabled running..... Win98SE
Gateway Profile with a Belkin USB wireless adapter running.... Win98SE

Internet access is via DSL service provider
All computers have current Windows OS service releases and patches applied
All machines have ZoneAlarm freeware edition configured to allow these
machines and router access

For weeks I have been trying to fix this prob...
When all machines are running, the Win98SE boxes can file share
The XP machine is a now-you-see-it-now-you-don't workgroup member.
Sometimes it appears in my net neighborhood, most often doesn't, until
recently. The XP can "see" other members in the workgroup but not access
them.

So today, I disconnected the DSL line and shut down Zonealarm firewall on
all machines. Everyone gets along with each other. All can see and all can
share. Okay, I suspect Zonealarm. I remove and re-add the XP via IP
address. Launch Zonealarm on all boxes. Everyone is still happy.... Hmmmm.
I reconnect the DSL line... XP starts acting up again.. can be seen... then
can't be seen.... can be seen again.. no access.. XP may or may not see the
Win98se boxes. The only change I make is to unplug on plug in the DSL line.

Can someone explain logically what is happening. Why does only XP drop from
the happy camp when the DSL line is connected. All machines have always
reliably connected to the web over the DSL connection. But for some reason
it throws a wrench in my file sharing and even recognition of the XP member.
Find computer or \\theXPmachine addressing never sees it out there ONLY WHEN
DSL is connected.

Thanks. I need a rest from this one. lol

 

[Vern]

-----Original Message-----
Really exhausted troubleshooting this prob. I have combed the 98 netwoking
newsgroup posts, practrically networked webpages and Netgear webpages for a
fix, but find no fix, so far. Here is the scenario.....

I have three machines connected through a Netgear MR814 router, two are
wireless the other cabled .

Dell Inspiron 4150 with a truemobile wireless card running..... WinXPhe
Dell Optiplex Gx1 cabled running..... Win98SE
Gateway Profile with a Belkin USB wireless adapter running.... Win98SE

Internet access is via DSL service provider
All computers have current Windows OS service releases and patches applied
All machines have ZoneAlarm freeware edition configured to allow these
machines and router access

For weeks I have been trying to fix this prob...
When all machines are running, the Win98SE boxes can file share
The XP machine is a now-you-see-it-now-you-don't workgroup member.
Sometimes it appears in my net neighborhood, most often doesn't, until
recently. The XP can "see" other members in the workgroup but not access
them.

So today, I disconnected the DSL line and shut down Zonealarm firewall on
all machines. Everyone gets along with each other. All can see and all can
share. Okay, I suspect Zonealarm. I remove and re-add the XP via IP
address. Launch Zonealarm on all boxes. Everyone is still happy.... Hmmmm.
I reconnect the DSL line... XP starts acting up again.. can be seen... then
can't be seen.... can be seen again.. no access.. XP may or may not see the
Win98se boxes. The only change I make is to unplug on plug in the DSL line.

Can someone explain logically what is happening. Why does only XP drop from
the happy camp when the DSL line is connected. All machines have always
reliably connected to the web over the DSL connection. But for some reason
it throws a wrench in my file sharing and even recognition of the XP member.
Find computer or \\theXPmachine addressing never sees it out there ONLY WHEN
DSL is connected.

Thanks. I need a rest from this one. lol






.
Not to insult your intelligence, but have you turned off

the firwewall in XP Networking? I had the same problem.
Turned it off and I was running fine.

 

[R. McCarty]

Make sure only TCP/IP protocol is bound to each PC's NIC.

Also, you can modify the Registry keys related to the election
of a Master Browser on your Network. You can assign the XP
box to be the Master and disable the election on the other 98 SE
PC's. Finally, make sure that Zone Alarm is configured for trusting
(IP Range) all members of the workgroup.

 

[WindowsXP-he]

Not to insult your intelligence, but have you turned off
the firwewall in XP Networking? I had the same problem.
Turned it off and I was running fine.

Did that. Not insulted in the least. In fact I am expecting to feel like a
dummy when I finaly crack this. lol

Now the latest suggestion is that I don't need Zonealarm at all with a
router, but I don't see the logic in why it would be fine UNTIL I connect
the DSL cable.

 

[WindowsXP-he]

Make sure only TCP/IP protocol is bound to each PC's NIC.

Also, you can modify the Registry keys related to the election
of a Master Browser on your Network. You can assign the XP
box to be the Master and disable the election on the other 98 SE
PC's. Finally, make sure that Zone Alarm is configured for trusting
(IP Range) all members of the workgroup.

Thanks... been there. done that.

 

[WindowsXP-he]

Once again...

I can get everyone to co-exist and file-share UNTIL I physically plug the
DSL cable into the router. At that point the only element that gets screwy
is the XP member. I can still see it in My Network, but I can't access it
for anything. Not even properties.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Really exhausted troubleshooting this prob. I have combed the 98 netwoking
newsgroup posts, practrically networked webpages and Netgear webpages for a
fix, but find no fix, so far. Here is the scenario.....

I have three machines connected through a Netgear MR814 router, two are
wireless the other cabled .

Dell Inspiron 4150 with a truemobile wireless card running..... WinXPhe
Dell Optiplex Gx1 cabled running..... Win98SE
Gateway Profile with a Belkin USB wireless adapter running.... Win98SE

Internet access is via DSL service provider
All computers have current Windows OS service releases and patches applied
All machines have ZoneAlarm freeware edition configured to allow these
machines and router access

For weeks I have been trying to fix this prob...
When all machines are running, the Win98SE boxes can file share
The XP machine is a now-you-see-it-now-you-don't workgroup member.
Sometimes it appears in my net neighborhood, most often doesn't, until
recently. The XP can "see" other members in the workgroup but not access
them.

So today, I disconnected the DSL line and shut down Zonealarm firewall on
all machines. Everyone gets along with each other. All can see and all can
share. Okay, I suspect Zonealarm. I remove and re-add the XP via IP
address. Launch Zonealarm on all boxes. Everyone is still happy.... Hmmmm.
I reconnect the DSL line... XP starts acting up again.. can be seen... then
can't be seen.... can be seen again.. no access.. XP may or may not see the
Win98se boxes. The only change I make is to unplug on plug in the DSL line.

Can someone explain logically what is happening. Why does only XP drop from
the happy camp when the DSL line is connected. All machines have always
reliably connected to the web over the DSL connection. But for some reason
it throws a wrench in my file sharing and even recognition of the XP member.
Find computer or \\theXPmachine addressing never sees it out there ONLY WHEN
DSL is connected.

Thanks. I need a rest from this one. lol

Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled, not default, on XP:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right click the local area network connection and click Properties.
3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
4. Click Advanced.
5. Click WINS.
6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

It might help to prevent XP from becoming the browse master for the
network:

1. Right click My Computer, and click Manage.
2. Double click Services and Applications.
3. Double click Services.
4. Double click Computer Browser. If the Service status is Started,
click Stop.
5. Set the Startup type to Disabled.

If those steps don't solve the problem, please reply to this message
in the news group (not by E-mail) with more information to help other
people understand the problem.

How does XP "see" the other computers? How do you try to access them
from XP? What exactly happens when you do it? What does the error
message say?

Can XP ping the other computers by their computer names? Can it ping
them by their IP addresses?
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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