XP Support ends 12/31/2003??

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Johann Bäcker said:
Found at: http://tinyurl.com/v76j

However at: http://tinyurl.com/v76p the date is 12/31/2006


WHICH is . . correct?
Your second link doesn't work. However, both dates are correct. If you
insist on _not_ applying any service packs or hotfixes, don't expect any
support after the end of this year. If you apply at least service pack 1,
support will continue for a further three years.

All current and future hotfixes assume that SP1 or SP1a has been applied.

After all, you surely cannot expect Microsoft to continue to offer free
support to anyone who refuses to make even the slightest effort to keep
their systems protected can you?
 
-----Original Message-----
Found at: http://tinyurl.com/v76j

However at: http://tinyurl.com/v76p the date is 12/31/2006


WHICH is . . correct?


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Product Name General Availability Date Mainstream
Support Retired Extended Support Retired
Windows XP Embedded 30-Jan-2002 31-Dec-2006 31-
Dec-2008
Windows XP Home Edition 31-Dec-2001 31-Dec-2006
Not Applicable
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002 26-Nov-2002 31-
Dec-2006 Not Applicable
Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004 27-Oct-2003 31-
Dec-2006 Not Applicable
Windows XP Plus! Pack 31-Dec-2001 31-Dec-2006
Not Applicable
Windows XP Professional 31-Dec-2001 31-Dec-2006 31-
Dec-2008
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 05-Feb-2003 31-Dec-2006
31-Dec-2008
 
Found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=fh;[ln];lifeprodw
Windows XP Professional
Product Availability: December 31, 2001

Mainstream Support: December 31, 2001 - *December 31, 2006*.



And Found Here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];LifeAn9

Details:
Under standard Microsoft Service Pack Lifecycle policy, support for Windows
XP Professional Edition and Windows XP Home Edition with no service packs
installed would typically have expired on September 9, 2003. However,
feedback from customers with issues involving Windows 2000 Service Pack 2
(SP2) indicate that many computer users have not updated their operating
systems to the SP2 level, but continue to run older service packs instead.
While Microsoft continues to recommend that customers install the latest
service packs (in this case, Windows XP SP1) to help protect their
computers, Microsoft has, in the spirit of its Trustworthy Computing
Initiative and in order to meet customer needs, extended full security fix
support for all Windows XP customers until *December 31, 2003*.

WHICH is correct as Microsoft is stating two (2) dates?

I personally feel that Support should be EXTENDED until . . . . "Longhorn"
is released
 
Reading the data indicates that these are dates for sale of
licenses, it seems that there will be support for 6-8 years
AFTER sale of product ends. That means updates and patches
of critical importance.

I think I read the data correctly.



message |
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Found at: http://tinyurl.com/v76j
| >
| >However at: http://tinyurl.com/v76p the date is
12/31/2006
| >
| >
| >WHICH is . . correct?
| >
| >
| >.
| >
| Product Name General Availability Date Mainstream
| Support Retired Extended Support Retired
| Windows XP Embedded 30-Jan-2002 31-Dec-2006 31-
| Dec-2008
| Windows XP Home Edition 31-Dec-2001 31-Dec-2006
| Not Applicable
| Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002 26-Nov-2002 31-
| Dec-2006 Not Applicable
| Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004 27-Oct-2003 31-
| Dec-2006 Not Applicable
| Windows XP Plus! Pack 31-Dec-2001 31-Dec-2006
| Not Applicable
| Windows XP Professional 31-Dec-2001 31-Dec-2006 31-
| Dec-2008
| Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 05-Feb-2003 31-Dec-2006
| 31-Dec-2008
|
 
Mark said:
Your second link doesn't work. However, both dates are correct. If you
insist on _not_ applying any service packs or hotfixes, don't expect
any support after the end of this year. If you apply at least service
pack 1, support will continue for a further three years.

All current and future hotfixes assume that SP1 or SP1a has been
applied.

After all, you surely cannot expect Microsoft to continue to offer
free support to anyone who refuses to make even the slightest effort
to keep their systems protected can you?

What , in essence is being stated, is that anyone purchasing the current OS
on or after 01/01/2004 is purchasing an OS that is . . . not supported.

I have been a user since WfW 3.11. I believe that this is the first
instance in which support ended . . . BEFORE a new version was released.

Oh well, RedHat will abandon the Desktop Platform on 04/30/2004 totally: no
further distributons and no further support. At least Microsoft hasn't
gone . . . that far- yet.

BTW: What's with 811493? I've installed it EVERY MORNING since . . thursday.
It has now become annoying.
Yes, I Shut Down and Restart, go through the day and the next moring it is
presented as a "New Update Downloaded and Ready to be Installed".
 
Neither is correct. Until the new OS from Microsoft is ready for release
[code name is Longhorn-release contemplated now for 2006], count on support
for XP and do not concern yourself with such things.
 
What , in essence is being stated, is that anyone purchasing the current OS
on or after 01/01/2004 is purchasing an OS that is . . . not supported.

err ... no.

All XP purchases i've made (OEM builds) have come supplied with SP1
included.

Given what i've read, that means approx 2 years further support.
 
Johann Bäcker said:
Found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=fh;[ln];lifeprodw
Windows XP Professional
Product Availability: December 31, 2001

Mainstream Support: December 31, 2001 - *December 31, 2006*.



And Found Here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];LifeAn9

Details:
Under standard Microsoft Service Pack Lifecycle policy, support for Windows
XP Professional Edition and Windows XP Home Edition with no service packs
installed would typically have expired on September 9, 2003. However,
feedback from customers with issues involving Windows 2000 Service Pack 2
(SP2) indicate that many computer users have not updated their operating
systems to the SP2 level, but continue to run older service packs instead.
While Microsoft continues to recommend that customers install the latest
service packs (in this case, Windows XP SP1) to help protect their
computers, Microsoft has, in the spirit of its Trustworthy Computing
Initiative and in order to meet customer needs, extended full security fix
support for all Windows XP customers until *December 31, 2003*.

WHICH is correct as Microsoft is stating two (2) dates?

I personally feel that Support should be EXTENDED until . . . . "Longhorn"
is released

If you read it, it says support for non-service pack patched xp version will
end 12/31/2003. If you have sp1 or above installed then support goes to
2006.
 
Johann Bäcker said:
What , in essence is being stated, is that anyone purchasing the current OS
on or after 01/01/2004 is purchasing an OS that is . . . not supported.

Wrong. You cannot buy a pc without sp1 anymore. The current offering from ms
includes sp1 on oem computers and in retail stores, so it is supported.
I have been a user since WfW 3.11. I believe that this is the first
instance in which support ended . . . BEFORE a new version was released.

Support isn't ending. Install sp1 and your all set.
Oh well, RedHat will abandon the Desktop Platform on 04/30/2004 totally: no
further distributons and no further support. At least Microsoft hasn't
gone . . . that far- yet.

They never will. Product life cycle always extends far into the the next
versions release.
BTW: What's with 811493? I've installed it EVERY MORNING since . . thursday.
It has now become annoying.
Yes, I Shut Down and Restart, go through the day and the next moring it is
presented as a "New Update Downloaded and Ready to be Installed".

Possible solutions:

1 - Delete or rename the folder c:\windows\system32\catroot2

Then do the updates again.



2 - Start/stop the auto-update service.

Start, control panel, administrative tools, services, right click automatic
updates, click stop. Right click again, click start.
 
Found at: http://tinyurl.com/v76j

However at: http://tinyurl.com/v76p the date is 12/31/2006


WHICH is . . correct?

Neither. M$ is not EOLC'ing XP. Would be kind of stupid considering
XP is now the flasgship Windows product and Longhorn is likely years
away.


Straight from M$:


Key Dates:

# Security Hotfix Support for Windows XP Home and Windows XP
Professional with no service packs installed will be provided through
December 31, 2003.

# Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1) will be supported in accordance with
the Microsoft Support Lifecycle policy.

Details:

Under standard Microsoft Service Pack Lifecycle policy, support for
Windows XP Professional Edition and Windows XP Home Edition with no
service packs installed would typically have expired on September 9,
2003. However, feedback from customers with issues involving Windows
2000 Service Pack 2 (SP2) indicate that many computer users have not
updated their operating systems to the SP2 level, but continue to run
older service packs instead. While Microsoft continues to recommend
that customers install the latest service packs (in this case, Windows
XP SP1) to help protect their computers, Microsoft has, in the spirit
of its Trustworthy Computing Initiative and in order to meet customer
needs, extended full security fix support for all Windows XP customers
until December 31, 2003.
 
MS only support the current and previous service pack. Therefore support for SP1 will stop when SP3 is released. You'll note in the excerpt quoted it talks only about security patches. There is more to support than security patches. Anyway this extension is only two and a bit months.
purplehaz said:
Johann Bäcker said:
Found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=fh;[ln];lifeprodw
Windows XP Professional
Product Availability: December 31, 2001

Mainstream Support: December 31, 2001 - *December 31, 2006*.



And Found Here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[LN];LifeAn9

Details:
Under standard Microsoft Service Pack Lifecycle policy, support for Windows
XP Professional Edition and Windows XP Home Edition with no service packs
installed would typically have expired on September 9, 2003. However,
feedback from customers with issues involving Windows 2000 Service Pack 2
(SP2) indicate that many computer users have not updated their operating
systems to the SP2 level, but continue to run older service packs instead.
While Microsoft continues to recommend that customers install the latest
service packs (in this case, Windows XP SP1) to help protect their
computers, Microsoft has, in the spirit of its Trustworthy Computing
Initiative and in order to meet customer needs, extended full security fix
support for all Windows XP customers until *December 31, 2003*.

WHICH is correct as Microsoft is stating two (2) dates?

I personally feel that Support should be EXTENDED until . . . . "Longhorn"
is released

If you read it, it says support for non-service pack patched xp version will
end 12/31/2003. If you have sp1 or above installed then support goes to
2006.
 
I still do not understand why so many Windows XP users still have not
installed Service Pack 1 or 1a. Installing SP1/a along with the rest of the
security and other program updates available makes Windows XP more stable
and a little more secure. Although my computer uses a pre-installed Windows
XP version with SP1 installed, my other computer I had to install Windows XP
SP1a where it made XP more stable.
 
BTW: What's with 811493? I've installed it EVERY MORNING since . .
Possible solutions:

1 - Delete or rename the folder c:\windows\system32\catroot2

Then do the updates again.


This could have something to do with: ntoskrnl.exe. I have noted that when
I install the bootup screen I want (safe mode - dos prompt - replace) - I
have 811493 "messages". I install the 811493 and on reboot, the Original
Bootup Screen . . returns.

The file system is NTFS and yes, I have SP1 and installed the ntoskrnl.exe
for SP1. Perhaps the file I am using was written for a FAT32 file system
with SP1?
 

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