XP SUCKS

[Jim Macklin]

It was Douglas Macarthur, when he fled from the Philippines
in 1942, to re-organize the American Army in Australia. He
gave a speech to those he left behind for the entertainment
of the Japanese.

He did return, thankfully, Korean stopped his political
career.

See, subject..."Bonus March and tent city attack."



message
| I believe it was McDouglas 1943 who said it.. I"ll be
back!
|
| Or was it that new guy in California?
|
| I believe you meant McArthur

 

[Guest]

Judging by your typing skills, I'll bet it's the user that makes the mistakes, not Windows.

----- KISS man wrote: -----

IT AKWAYS MAKE MISAKES!!

 

[Steve C. Ray]

Actually Macarthur said "I shall return". Arnold said "I'll be back" in
Terminator.

 

[Steve C. Ray]

I bought and installed XP the day it was released to the public, over two
years ago. The computer is used every day. I have never had a BSOD. Guess
that beats your record. But I have used my computer for what it was intended
for, not stupid stunts.

--
Steve C. Ray
Replace "mail" with "36db"

A little story: I have a linux box and a Mac. My uptimes are both

pathetic since my Mac is a laptop and they like to have it off to go through
airports; I rebooted my linux box over a month ago to try to get iTunes
running in emulation. So that is an uptime of 36 days, 22:46 on the linux
box and 11 days on the mac (since I've been at school).

Tonight, I tried to set up a prank on a fellow student who is away: making

it look like I had installed XP on his Linux box. I got a BSOD 5 times.
Let's go over what I did. Get another friend's laptop running WinXP.
Unplug VGA cord from linux box and plug into laptop; repeat with USB
keyboard and mouse. Add user account; set up settings etc. Close laptop,
unplug all cords (plus headphone jack and power cord), move laptop to where
I think I want it, plug everything back in, log in, everything works.
Decide I want to move it a couple on inches, unplug and replug. And then it
strikes: screen size reduced to approximately 4"x6" (10cm x 15cm) and
resolution to 600x800 or something really crappy and colors to 4-bit. I am
not kidding. I try to fix this in Control Panel -> Display -> Settings; I
hit Apply... BSOD, automatic reboot before I can read the errir message.

THE POINT:
WinXP 5 BSOD in <24 hours
Linux uptime of >36 days and the last and ONLY time I

crashed it was on purpose (I still remember exactly what I did to make it
crash) out of 1 1/2 years of running Linux

Mac OS X I think the last time it crashed was over the summer

when I was running a developer preview version of Panther, I don't remember
for sure

 

[Jim Macklin]

You're correct.


| Actually Macarthur said "I shall return". Arnold said
"I'll be back" in
| Terminator.
|
| --
| Steve C. Ray
| Replace "mail" with "36db"
in message
| | > It was Douglas Macarthur, when he fled from the
Philippines
| > in 1942, to re-organize the American Army in Australia.
He
| > gave a speech to those he left behind for the
entertainment
| > of the Japanese.
| >
| > He did return, thankfully, Korean stopped his political
| > career.
| >
| > See, subject..."Bonus March and tent city attack."
| >
| >
| >
| > message
| >
| > | I believe it was McDouglas 1943 who said it.. I"ll be
| > back!
| > |
| > | Or was it that new guy in California?
| > |
| > | I believe you meant McArthur
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Guest]

I have to say that I can agree with both sides of this issue. From starting out on an old Apple IIc and programming in BASIC all the way until now, I've dealt with computers in general for about 20 years. While XP does have its own quirks and temperament, it is the most stable OS that MS has built to date. The downside is that every new OS that MS has put out has taken more and more input away from the user in the name of simplifying use, which has resulted in a distinct feeling for more experienced users that "Microsoft Knows Best", regardless of what the user wants. ( I, for one, am VERY afflicted by this feeling.) It can get VERY frustrating to know what you want to do,try to tell the computer what to do, and be told that you're not allowed to do it. It is true, also, that over 90% of all system crashes originate in the chair. I work on machines 5 days a week that run XP, and I see the BSOD reboot cycle regularly. What's up with that? If I'm getting a BSOD, then I need to be able to read it so I can address the problem intelligently, not have the machine put itself into a boot cycle from which the only recovery is a complete system restore (can't even get into safe mode or debug mode).
I DON'T however, think that XP is the best OS out. There are others out that, while they DO have a learning curve, ARE more stable, infinitely more flexible and customizable, and not to mention smaller! It's all a matter of what you want or need the computer to do, and what YOU are willing to do to achieve it.

My parting thought is for KISS man.......computers can only do what they're told to do, also known as GIGO(Garbage In, Garbage Out, in case you were wondering)

----- Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers wrote: -----

Linux is just as capable as spreading viruses as Windows or any other
operating system. The difference is that more of them are written targeting
Windows functions. If you were writing a program for profit, or to attract
(or attack) as many users as possible, would you target Windows, Linux, or
the Mac platform? Kind of a no-brainer there.

Incidentally, there are more security patches for the current Mandrake and
Redhat home-user distributions of Linux than there are for WinXP.

Crashing, by the way, isn't usually caused by the system, it's caused by the
user not properly caring for and implementing the system. Hardware crashes
aren't an OS problem, they are a hardware problem (usually caused by
purchasing cheap hardware in the first place, age, overclocking, or poor
maintenance - mostly things that are, again, within the user's realm of
control).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x
Windows isn't rocket science! That's my other hobby!

Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone

If you mean that Linux is not as capable as spreading virii, then you are

correct. I can do everything I need, could possibly want, and more on Linux
without crashing it 99.99% of the time. Windows crashes more and does less
and generally doesn't work as well.

 

[Guest]

Actually, XP is the best invention yet
It's the hardware configuration you have which makes the mistakes

Configure XP the way you want it and away you go.

 

[Guest]

I hear a lot about how inferior MS Windows is to Mac’s and Linux, and I wish I could sit here and confirm this view; but the fact is that I have never had any real problems with it
I use my PC mainly for imaging, movies, web site building and general tinkering, and the hardware isn’t even compatible! (The graphics card isn’t supported by XP and this causes it to hang every 3 – 4 weeks.)
Is this because my PC is on 24/7, or is it because I tend not to install loads of crap software on it (besides the point that many think XP is crap… maybe even a VIRUS)?
I would be happy doing any of my interest/hobbies with Mac or Linux but the fact isâ€
I kind of like the pretty Windows interface!? (No I’m not a girl)
It’s not what you do it with, it’s what you do with it

----- Steve C. Ray wrote: ----

I bought and installed XP the day it was released to the public, over tw
years ago. The computer is used every day. I have never had a BSOD. Gues
that beats your record. But I have used my computer for what it was intende
for, not stupid stunts

--
Steve C. Ra
Replace "mail" with "36db

A little story: I have a linux box and a Mac. My uptimes are bot

pathetic since my Mac is a laptop and they like to have it off to go throug
airports; I rebooted my linux box over a month ago to try to get iTune
running in emulation. So that is an uptime of 36 days, 22:46 on the linu
box and 11 days on the mac (since I've been at school)

Tonight, I tried to set up a prank on a fellow student who is away: makin

it look like I had installed XP on his Linux box. I got a BSOD 5 times
Let's go over what I did. Get another friend's laptop running WinXP
Unplug VGA cord from linux box and plug into laptop; repeat with US
keyboard and mouse. Add user account; set up settings etc. Close laptop
unplug all cords (plus headphone jack and power cord), move laptop to wher
I think I want it, plug everything back in, log in, everything works
Decide I want to move it a couple on inches, unplug and replug. And then i
strikes: screen size reduced to approximately 4"x6" (10cm x 15cm) an
resolution to 600x800 or something really crappy and colors to 4-bit. I a
not kidding. I try to fix this in Control Panel -> Display -> Settings;
hit Apply... BSOD, automatic reboot before I can read the errir message

WinXP 5 BSOD in <24 hour
Linux uptime of >36 days and the last and ONLY time

crashed it was on purpose (I still remember exactly what I did to make i
crash) out of 1 1/2 years of running Linu

Mac OS X I think the last time it crashed was over the summe

when I was running a developer preview version of Panther, I don't remembe
for sur

 

[Tony Talmage]

Actually, if you're looking for pretty, Mac or Linux (KDE and GNOME have
been my only experience) would be a better choice. I really could care less
about the look; the only reason I don't use Linux is because I'm so familiar
with Windows (even have slight experience with Windows 2) and so unfamiliar
with Linux, and I'm too stubborn to learn. I'm not sure how hard it would
be to learn, but I've just grown too attached to XP to move to something
new. Maybe after the next time it breaks (I've had to reinstall 4-5 times
over the past 3 years) I'll just install Linux until Longhorn comes out in
2006.

The main reason I don't use Macs, however, is the price. They are just way
out of my price range... the fact that the bottom-of-the-line G5 is $1799
plus tax (not counting the monitor, which can run up to $1999) just boggles
my mind. I'd rather stick with the AMD 3200+ combo I'm about to purchase
for $700.

--
Tony Talmage
Web Developer
Graphic Education Corporation
http://www.graphiced.com
(888) 354-6600

I hear a lot about how inferior MS Windows is to Mac's and Linux, and I

wish I could sit here and confirm this view; but the fact is that I have
never had any real problems with it!

I use my PC mainly for imaging, movies, web site building and general

tinkering, and the hardware isn't even compatible! (The graphics card isn't
supported by XP and this causes it to hang every 3 - 4 weeks.)

Is this because my PC is on 24/7, or is it because I tend not to install

loads of crap software on it (besides the point that many think XP is crap.
maybe even a VIRUS)?

 

[Guest]

I lost the ability to open a new window while surfing the net. Some links on the Net open a new window automatically however on my computer the new window will never display. The window is there but blank, no data is ever loaded, any suggestions?

 

[E McCann]

The main reason I don't use Macs, however, is the price. They are just way
out of my price range... the fact that the bottom-of-the-line G5 is $1799
plus tax (not counting the monitor, which can run up to $1999) just boggles
my mind. I'd rather stick with the AMD 3200+ combo I'm about to purchase
for $700.

Emac, starting $799.
iMac, a bit higher, but with a very nice flat panel monitor built in.

Of course, the best buy is "what fits your needs and will last." Me, I use
both - have a G3 minitower here as well as an Athlon 2000+. Perfectly happy
with both.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

To get started troubleshooting the cause of your problems, we'll
need to learn what specific errors are occurring and being recorded.

To get the error message from the blue screen (a.k.a. the BSOD --
Blue Screen of Death), you'll need to turn off WinXP's automatic
reboot "feature:" Right-click My Computer > Properties > Advanced >
Startup and Recovery > Uncheck "Automatically restart." The next time
your PC crashes, you'll be left with a blue screen full of memory
addresses and other seeming gibberish. The top 2 or 3 lines of this
screen will contain information that can help solve your problem.
Carefully write down these lines and post the exact text back here.
Hopefully, one of us will be able to provide some insight.

Additionally, you should check your Event Logs to see if they can
shed any light on the matter, To do so, Right-click My Computer >
Manage > Event Viewer > System and Application. Record the specifics
of any red-flagged error messages and post the exact text back here.
Again, hopefully, one of us will be able to provide some insight.



Bruce Chambers

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having both at once. -- RAH



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and I see the BSOD reboot cycle regularly. What's up with that? If
I'm getting a BSOD, then I need to be able to read it so I can address
the problem intelligently, not have the machine put itself into a boot
cycle from which the only recovery is a complete system restore (can't
even get into safe mode or debug mode).

 

[Guest]

While I thank you for your very sound advice, unfortunately, by the time I get 90% of the machines, going into windows and checking or unchecking anything simply isn't an option. What would be even more appreciated is a way to retrieve that same information from a command prompt or a boot disk.

 

[Guest]

Ever consider that the problem lies between the keyboard and the chair not with the computer

----- KISS man wrote: ----

IT AKWAYS MAKE MISAKES!

 

[JAX]

Twat ded ya mean by tht?

Chairs, JAX

 

[Guest]

These 100 or so back and forth posts make for funnier reading than the comics. After thinking the matter through at length, I have come to the conclusion that it all boils down to this one basic point-------it originally came to be named "Windows" because when you open it all the bugs come in?! Illegitimii non carborundum!

 

[Kelly]

Translation:

Don't let the *astards grind you down...

Illegitimii non carborundum!

 

[Guest]

well.. it isn't always the windows fault.. from my little experience, most of them were from the user side.. or maybe the hardware compatibality.. or anything that u might've done to the windows (install, tweak, etc)... try to do a fresh install of windows, and then don't install anything other than winamp and MS Office 2000 / XP.. play songs by winamp during the testing, repeatedly.. Let it run for a few days or maybe weeks.. i'll assure you that if u follow the right path u'll never see it makes mistakes.. unless if u bought the pre modified pirated software, u'll be agree with this.. i also agree with the creation of help files.. it does however, settle down the trouble for End-users like many of us.. i'm not a pro-windows.. neither i'm not pro to linux or mac or anything.. i;m just the one who think that whatever that thing is, a car maybe, if u take a good care of it, it'll last longer than most ppl think.. do take your time to learn about features or function that it might have.. use it carefully.. think about the risk if u do this or that or anything.. and one last thing.. u have to remember.. this is NOT heaven... it is a race.. where companies makes profit from the BEST software they produced.. not the PERFECT software.. u already know that the best is not everything.. in fact if they made a perfect software what'll happen to the other products..? ask ur self, do u know everything about linux and it gave ur life one of the brightest star in the world...? no.. not even mac.. not even windows... ahh.. now u've already know the answer to ur own question.... u should be able to think much more further than that.. or u only knows winning.. which makes u think that george bush killed micheal jordan.. or anything like that.. crap..

p/s:software creators arent perfect.. so we see imperfections..

 

[Tony Talmage]

Aye, I've been happy with the performance of Macs, don't get me wrong. I'm
just saying that comparatively, they are more expensive than PCs. For
example, the combo I referred to had 1GB ddr ram, amd 3200+ & mobo, decent
proc and case cooling fans, etc. The least expensive G5 doesn't come close
to those specs, and it's more than twice as much as what I would be paying
for the combo. The top-of-the-line eMac only has a 1GHz proc and 256MB ram,
which wouldn't even be an upgrade for me.

I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, I'm just saying that as
far as I'm concerned, PCs are more cost-efficient than Macs for what I would
want the box to do (which, of course, is what you stated: "what fits your
needs").

--
Tony Talmage
Web Developer
Graphic Education Corporation
http://www.graphiced.com
(888) 354-6600